[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":38224},["ShallowReactive",2],{"\u002Fpodcast\u002Fspezialfolge-programmier-con-2025-aus-bad-nauheim":3},{"podcast":4,"pickOfTheDayCount":95,"speakerCount":96,"relatedPodcasts":97,"transcript":98},{"id":5,"published_on":6,"type":7,"number":8,"title":9,"slug":10,"description":11,"transcript":8,"audio_url":12,"apple_url":8,"google_url":8,"spotify_url":8,"cover_image":13,"banner_image":8,"speakers":25,"members":26,"picks_of_the_day":91,"tags":92,"tagsPrepared":93,"speakersPrepared":94},"db6b16bc-7a5c-4554-aa4d-607d62973440","2026-06-03T04:00:00.000Z","other",null,"programmier.con 2025 aus Bad Nauheim","spezialfolge-programmier-con-2025-aus-bad-nauheim","\u003Cp dir=\"ltr\">\u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.programmier.bar\u002Fkonferenz\u002Fprogrammier-con-web-ai-edition-2026\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Am 25. und 26. November 2026 gibt es wieder eine programmier.con!\u003C\u002Fa> Nach zwei Konferenzen und zahlreichen Meetups ist es Zeit für eine ehrliche, selbstkritische und persönliche Nachlese unserer bisher größten Veranstaltung. Bevor wir uns auf die kommende Web- und AI-Konferenz freuen, blicken wir zurück auf die programmier.con 2025: Was hat die Veranstaltung besonders gemacht? Was lief besser als erwartet? Und welche Learnings nehmen wir mit in die Planung der nächsten Ausgabe?\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp dir=\"ltr\">In diesem Special sprechen Dennis und Jan gemeinsam mit Vanessa und Michael offen über zwei Tage Konferenz, Community und Austausch in Bad Nauheim. Dabei geht es nicht nur um unsere Perspektive als Veranstalter:innen, sondern auch um die Eindrücke der Menschen, für die wir die programmier.con überhaupt organisieren: unsere Community. Deshalb kommen in dieser Folge zahlreiche Stimmen von euch vor Ort zu Wort – aufgenommen zwischen Talks, Buffet, Abendprogramm und Coding-Challenge.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp dir=\"ltr\">Gemeinsam blicken wir auf die Themen der Konferenz zurück: den starken Fokus auf Webentwicklung und Künstliche Intelligenz, die Qualität der Talks und die Frage, wie sich thematische Überschneidungen künftig vermeiden lassen. Gleichzeitig sprechen wir ganz bewusst auch über Dinge, die nicht perfekt gelaufen sind – Stichwort „Kuchengate“ – und über Überraschungen, die deutlich besser funktioniert haben als erwartet, etwa das Timekeeping.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp dir=\"ltr\">Ein besonderer Fokus liegt auf den Elementen, die die programmier.con für uns von einer klassischen Fachkonferenz unterscheiden. Wir diskutieren die Rolle von Lightning Talks, Coding-Challenge und Abendprogramm und sprechen darüber, warum Begegnungen, spontane Gespräche und gemeinsames Lernen oft genauso wertvoll sind wie die Vorträge selbst.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp dir=\"ltr\">Natürlich geht der Blick auch nach vorne: Wie können wir mehr Diversität und unterschiedliche Perspektiven auf die Bühne bringen? Welche Rolle spielt ein offener Call for Papers? Und warum möchten wir auch künftig keine reine Framework-Konferenz sein, sondern Raum für Praxisberichte, neue Ideen und den Blick über den Tellerrand schaffen?\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp dir=\"ltr\">Ihr erfahrt, für wen die programmier.con besonders gut geeignet ist, warum gerade Einzelpersonen oft schnell Anschluss finden und weshalb Community, Austausch und persönliche Gespräche auch in Zukunft zentrale Bestandteile der Veranstaltung bleiben sollen.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp dir=\"ltr\">Wenn ihr Feedback, Themenwünsche oder eigene Talk-Ideen habt, freuen wir uns auf eure Einreichungen. Talks könnt ihr direkt über \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fcfp.programmier.bar\">https:\u002F\u002Fcfp.programmier.bar\u003C\u002Fa> oder per Mail an \u003Ca href=\"mailto:podcast@programmier.bar\">podcast@programmier.bar\u003C\u002Fa> einreichen.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp dir=\"ltr\">Alle Informationen zur programmier.con 2026 sowie bald auch die Aufzeichnungen der Talks findet ihr unter \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fprogrammier.bar\u002Fkonferenz\">https:\u002F\u002Fprogrammier.bar\u002Fkonferenz\u003C\u002Fa>.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp> \u003C\u002Fp>","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.buzzsprout.com\u002F176239\u002Fepisodes\u002F19272458-spezialfolge-programmier-con-2025-aus-bad-nauheim.mp3",{"id":14,"title":15,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":16,"filename_download":17,"metadata":18,"type":19,"filesize":20,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":21,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":22,"uploaded_on":23,"folder":8,"width":24,"height":24,"charset":8,"duration":8},"f4b31587-2743-4d9b-bc0c-12772fd5cde7","Special Programmiercon (1)","f4b31587-2743-4d9b-bc0c-12772fd5cde7.png","Special_programmiercon (1).png",{},"image\u002Fpng","1870631","2025-08-05T13:10:46.969Z","11a655b6-bcfc-4c6c-a13c-68189e38edb9","2025-08-05T13:10:46.964Z",1500,[],[27,46,61,76],{"member":28},{"id":29,"first_name":30,"last_name":31,"occupation":32,"description":33,"normal_image":34},"47099351-508c-44d9-a2a2-855181c72ee8","Jan Gregor","Emge-Triebel","\u002F\u002F programmier.bar Tech Community Lead \u002F\u002F Podcast-Host","\u003Cp>Jan ist ein echter Technik-Fan mit einer facettenreichen Karriere, die sich über Web-, Mobile-App-Entwicklung und DevOps erstreckt. Dank seiner vielfältigen Rollen – vom Entwickler über den Teamleiter bis hin zum Vice President Development – verfügt Jan über einen großen Erfahrungsschatz in der Softwareentwicklung und Developer Advocacy.\u003Cbr>Seine Leidenschaften jenseits der Technik reichen von Tauchgängen an exotischen Orten über das Eintauchen in digitale wie analoge Spiele bis hin zum Abtauchen in gelungene Plot-Twists in Büchern und Filmen.\u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":35,"title":36,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":37,"filename_download":38,"metadata":39,"type":40,"filesize":41,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":42,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":43,"uploaded_on":44,"folder":8,"width":45,"height":45,"charset":8,"duration":8},"ef7c0ccb-a2b5-48a0-8261-c8bbfffd917b","Jan CD","ef7c0ccb-a2b5-48a0-8261-c8bbfffd917b.jpg","Jan_CD.jpg",{},"image\u002Fjpeg","649400","2024-07-26T09:26:17.846Z","e97179d2-51b3-4deb-828f-9524091441f5","2024-07-26T09:26:17.710Z",1024,{"member":47},{"id":48,"first_name":49,"last_name":50,"occupation":51,"description":52,"normal_image":53},"958f6624-c721-4ff9-8a97-69148f540945","Dennis","Becker","\u002F\u002F Podcast-Host","\u003Cp>Dennis ist Head of Development bei Lotum und kümmert sich liebevoll um die Entwickler:innen und deren Weiterentwicklung. \u003Cbr>In den Podcastfolgen übernimmt Dennis gerne die Moderation. Beim täglichen Tischtennis ist er immer am Start und seit wenigen Jahren passionierter Kitesurfer. Mittlerweile ist er auch Vibe Coder mit Leidenschaft und überzeugt, dass seine Kolleg:innen AI unterschätzen. \u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":54,"title":55,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":56,"filename_download":57,"metadata":8,"type":40,"filesize":58,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":59,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":8,"uploaded_on":60,"folder":8,"width":45,"height":45,"charset":8,"duration":8},"7a9fd72e-16b1-4283-8c1f-348a3e7986f9","Dennis Becker","7a9fd72e-16b1-4283-8c1f-348a3e7986f9.jpg","dennis_becker_normal_01e352e682.jpg","45729","2022-01-16T14:26:35.196Z","2021-12-30T14:16:28.647Z",{"member":62},{"id":63,"first_name":64,"last_name":65,"occupation":66,"description":67,"normal_image":68},"7bcd8c0e-1ff0-47ff-b9f0-c483d8dc7a48","Vanessa","Platz-Czekansky","\u002F\u002F Content \u002F\u002F Social Media","\u003Cp>Vanessa liest meist erst die Rechtschreibfehler und dann den Inhalt einer Nachricht. Diese Genauigkeit zeigt sie auch in ihrer Expertise als UX-Writerin und Content Designerin bei Lotum. Im Team der programmier.bar hatte sie bei allen Texten ihre Finger im Spiel, die ein Lesegenuss sind – ob in den Podcast-Shownotes, auf Social Media oder auf dieser Website.\u003Cbr>Außerhalb der programmier.bar sitzt Vanessa Podcast- und Musik-hörend auf dem Mountainbike oder im Gym, besucht Konzerte oder spielt Cozy Games.\u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":69,"title":70,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":71,"filename_download":72,"metadata":8,"type":40,"filesize":73,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":74,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":8,"uploaded_on":75,"folder":8,"width":45,"height":45,"charset":8,"duration":8},"2683780c-1ae3-475e-b18c-c4a927b67861","Vanessa Platz","2683780c-1ae3-475e-b18c-c4a927b67861.jpg","vanessa_platz_normal_3da88753a3.jpg","64516","2022-01-16T14:25:49.892Z","2021-12-30T14:16:25.567Z",{"member":77},{"id":78,"first_name":79,"last_name":80,"occupation":81,"description":82,"normal_image":83},"22cd0ce8-ba4c-477f-aef8-54f708487291","Michael","Maier","\u002F\u002F Speaker-Organisation","\u003Cp>Habt ihr euch schon einmal gefragt, woher die ganzen spannenden Personen kommen, die unserem Podcast einen Besuch abstatten? Höchstwahrscheinlich hat Michael sie ausfindig gemacht. Er unterstützt uns bei der Suche nach eindrucksvollen Gesprächspartner:innen und ist im Anschluss ihr Ansprechpartner, um den perfekten Ablauf für eine Podcast-Aufnahme zu planen. Das geht sogar aus dem Homeoffice mit seinen zwei flauschigen Katzenkollegen.\u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":84,"title":85,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":86,"filename_download":87,"metadata":8,"type":40,"filesize":88,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":89,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":8,"uploaded_on":90,"folder":8,"width":45,"height":45,"charset":8,"duration":8},"b243a20f-7994-49c7-bc6d-8aa1545a2913","Michael CD","b243a20f-7994-49c7-bc6d-8aa1545a2913.jpg","Michael_CD_f7d5b8fde4.jpg","36914","2022-01-16T14:27:05.216Z","2021-12-30T14:16:26.631Z",[],[],[],[],470,197,[],{"id":99,"service":100,"supported_features":101,"speakers":104,"raw_response":114},"713753f0-2770-458b-aa3e-94c1561afbb4","deepgram",[102,103],"timestamps","diarization",[105,107,110,112],{"identifier":106,"name":49},"0",{"identifier":108,"name":109},"1","Jan",{"identifier":111,"name":64},"2",{"identifier":113,"name":79},"3",{"metadata":115,"results":129},{"transaction_key":116,"request_id":117,"sha256":118,"created":119,"duration":120,"channels":121,"models":122,"model_info":124},"deprecated","019e743b-3f43-7b72-a24b-812ce9a40dc8","415b97718a68f31f8c55cebfc6a596013ce9722128e6d40e716dd1bfbf937569","2026-05-29T14:55:06.073Z",3073.4487,1,[123],"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3",{"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3":125},{"name":126,"version":127,"arch":128},"2-general-nova","2024-05-09.3071","nova-2",{"channels":130,"utterances":26504},[131],{"alternatives":132},[133],{"transcript":134,"confidence":135,"words":136,"paragraphs":24567},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu 1 neuen Programmierbar Folge. Ich bin Dennis und heute gibt's noch ein kurzes Vorgeplänkel, es einzuordnen. Und zwar ist die Programmierbar mehr als nur der Podcast, denn wir haben auch Konferenzen, die veranschalten. Dieses Jahr findet wieder die Programmier Con 2026 statt mit dem Fokus auf AI und Web und wir haben uns letztes Jahr über diese Konferenz unterhalten und eine Podcastfolge dazu aufgenommen, die ihr gleich hier im Anschluss hört, wollen aber direkt jetzt schon drauf hinweisen, dass der Ticketverkauf jetzt startet. Ab dem ersten Juni könnt ihr Tickets kaufen im Early Bird für 299 bis Ende des Monats und danach regulär für 349 Euro. Und ja, jetzt kommen 'n paar Ausschnitte von Gästen, die wir interviewt haben zur letzten Folge. Müssen unsere eigene Eindrücke haben. Von daher ganz viel Spaß bei der Folge und wenn ihr Interesse habt, kauft schnell eure Tickets. Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu 1 neuen programmierbar Folge. Wieder einem Und zwar reden wir heute wieder über eine Konferenz und zwar über die Programmiercon. Ich bin Dennis Becker, zusammen heute mit mir im Studio. Jan Gregor Engetribel. Moin moin. Und wir haben 2 in Anführungsstrichen Gäste, die wir uns eingeladen haben, heute wieder diese Konferenz zu sprechen, denn sie sind Teil der programmierbar, aber nicht so regelmäßigen Podcasts und wie ich heute erfahren habe, sogar 1 von den beiden erstmalig Podcast. Die andere Person war schon mal da. Herzlich willkommen Vanessa. Hi. Philatzschikanski. Ja, Zekanski, ja. Zekanski, na ja, fast. Schön, dass Du wieder dabei bist. Was war deine erste Folge? Meine erste Folge war die über die Devcom 2025. Also auch ein Konferenz Special. Yes. Das kennst Du dich aus. Und wir haben noch Michael Meyer am Start. Hallo Michael. Hi, hi. Schön hier sein zu können. Michael, was machst Du so bei der Programmierbau und darüber hinaus? Ich bin bisher eher im Hintergrund bei der Programmierbar. Tatsächlich weiß ich nicht, ob ich lieber die Selbstbezeichnung programmier Barkeeper oder Programmierbärchen mag. 2 Hauptsachen. Ich bin früher viel in der Speaker*innenakquise tätig gewesen. Das heißt, spannende Stimmen für den Podcast und aber auch für die Meetups zu gewinnen. Das ist ein großer Teil. 'N zweiter Teil ist dann hier bei den Meetups und jetzt auch bei der Programmierko natürlich. Ja, 'n guter Gastgeber zu sein, sicherzustellen, dass sowohl die Leute auf der Bühne, aber vor allem auch die vor der Bühne eine gute Zeit hier haben und da in den Austausch zu gehen. Und ich glaube, mein größtes Achievement für die programmierbar war, Jan Gregor für uns zu gewinnen. Wenn ich da noch 'n paar Lorbeeren abhaben kann, dann nehm ich die gerne. Verdient. Also ich ich nehm das als Kompliment, aber ich ich ja. Ja. Lassen wir das mal zu Achievement stehen. Man ist ja auch, wenn Du schon mal da warst, aber gerne auch noch einen Satz über dich. Ja, also wenn wir jetzt im programmierbar Kosmos bleiben, bin ich hinter den Kulissen gar nicht so viel tätig. Ja, Lektoren trifft es vielleicht am ehesten. Ich gestalte die Texte mit, muss man mittlerweile sagen im Zeitalter von KI. Mhm. Und ja, ansonsten auch son bisschen in der Mitorganisation von Events und Konferenzen, die bei uns so stattfinden, wie wir alle eigentlich. Darf ich kurz noch eine Lanze für Vanessa brechen, weil sie das gerade so sehr kurz verkauft Gerne. Stattfindet. So. Also eigentlich bist Du schon überall mit am Start, wenn wir über die Programmierer reden, egal ob wir neue Formate oder was mit ganz anderen Medien oder was mit Partnerschaften oder keine Ahnung. Also eigentlich außer vorm Mikrofon bist eigentlich immer dabei. Danke dir. Das ist schön, das nehme ich. Das stimmt. Und auch immer schön präsent auf unseren Meetups. Hast Du das eben erwähnt? Ja. Nee. Und selbst auch für die Leute, die nicht vor sind, wenn die dann im währenddessen oder danach coole Social Media machen Ja. Von Meetups und dergleichen, dann entstamm die ja auch wieder da wieder deiner Fehler. Bist die programmierbar? Ich bin die programmierbar. Sehr gut. Alles, was man online sieht. Ja cool. Wie so eine Du bist Deutschland Kampagne, man muss nur für die Programmierer. Oh bitte nicht mit mir, nee. Du bist der Baum. Ja, ist mit Sicherheit dort ein bisschen besonders. Wir haben ja schon einige Specials gemacht, wo wir Konferenzen reden, so ein bisschen Katalog zu haben, falls ihr euch da draußen was anguckt und unsicher seid, ist das eine Konferenz, die zu mir passt. Jetzt sitzen hier 4 Leute, die unmittelbar mit der Organisation dieser Konferenz zu tun hatten. Wir hoffen aber trotzdem, dass es 'n möglichst realistisches Bild und nicht nur Schulterklopfen wird und haben auch ein paar externe Stimmen aufgenommen auf der Konferenz, ein paar Eindrücke zu sammeln. Und vielleicht ja, können wir ja auch noch über das ein oder andere Nähkästchen, nee, nicht über das ein oder andere Nähkästchen, sondern aus dem ein oder anderen Nähkästchen plaudern und gucken, wie wir es so selbst erlebt haben, weil wir nun mal alle sehr nah mit dran waren, nicht mit dabei waren. Man merkt auf jeden Fall, eigentlich sollten häufiger Michael und Vanessa hier sitzen, die können nämlich deutlich besser formulieren können als ich, der seit 7 Jahren einen Podcast bot. Programmiercon. Wer häufig diesem Podcast folgt, hat es wahrscheinlich schon mal gehört und gerade vor der Konferenz haben wir nicht ganz selten die Konferenz auch im Podcast erwähnt, war unsere zweite Große, kann man sagen. Nach dem Flatterday 2024 hatten wir im Herbst letzten Jahres die Programmier Programmier Con 2025, die Web- und AI Edition, die damit auch tatsächlich schon mal son bisschen den Rahmen vorgibt. Generell im programmierbar Kosmos sprechen wir immer von Web- und App Development so als Zielgruppe und eben dort Web und AI als Themen. 2 Tage, 2 Tracks, round about 20 Speaker*innen, die wir vor Ort hatten und ja, einiges an KI Themen, aber auch ein paar eher dann technische Sachen, die in andere oder im Webbereich verlagert waren. Und ausverkauft. Und ausverkauft. Und ausverkauft. Damit mit bisher. Mehr als ausverkauft. Stimmt und damit mit bisher. Ein Ticket mehr. Ein Ticket mehr, das ist richtig, weil 1 ohne Ticket erschien. Spontane Abendkasse sozusagen, Morgenkasse, keine Ahnung. Und was richtig krass ist und ich glaube, das hat da draußen noch keiner erlebt, der jemals eine Konferenz veranstaltet hat. Es sind es waren alle Gäste da. Es gab keinen, der aus Krankheitsgründen ausgefallen ist. Zum Glück sind wir keine Deadline. Fan Nuff, wir hatten einen Gast, der erst am zweiten Tag gekommen ist, weil er vorher Probleme Speakerin, die ausgefallen war, aber die Teilnehmer, die waren sehr diszipliniert. Ja. Das stimmt. Judi, tja, wie steigen wir ein? Wollen wir mal so anfangen mit so, hast Du, Du hast son Soundboard vorbereitet, glaube ich, an? Ja, das mag ich schon Quick Time Soundboard. Ja. Echt? Dann lass uns doch erst mal mit dem Dingen starten, die nicht so gut liefen. Die nicht so gut liefen? Die nicht so gut liefen. Was lief generell schlecht? Fangen wir mal mit dem guten Beispiel an. Ich krieg nur eine Frage. Ja. Es ist echt sensationell gut organisiert. Es ist eine ganz tolle Location. Das Team von euch ist supernett, jeder ist echt richtig, richtig freundlich. Das Einzige ist, dass ich hab gestern keinen Kuchen mehr bekommen, also das ist die, das ist die einzige Geschichte, aber das Essen war ansonsten auch super. Also ich sehe wirklich keine Verbesserungsmöglichkeiten, sorry. Ach so, also das wird jetzt die Folge, in der wir uns nicht selbst beobachten. Ich ich hab hier ich hab ja einen Spannungsbogen, ja, den es nicht zu torpedieren gilt, so. Aber Kuchengate hab ich mir auch als Allererstes aufgeschrieben. Kuchengate und gleich wirst Du auch merken, warum Kuchengate der der erste Punkt war. Wir hören kurz in den zweiten rein. Find's eine gute Idee, nächstes Jahr einen offenen CFP zu haben, dass man da quasi noch mehr unterschiedliche Themen, unterschiedliche Leute, vielleicht auch Leute, die man noch nicht gesehen hat, hört, da freu ich mich drauf. So, wir merken uns Kuchengate und wir merken uns CFP und wir kommen zum dritten Feedback. Gestern sah ich das noch beim Anstehen fürs Essen, aber es wurd heute schon gefixt. Von daher, ja, würde ich sagen, passt. So, wir haben mich das ist ja wohl bekannt. Ja, viele Grüße an Alex hier. Sowohl den Kuchen haben wir ja am zweiten Tag quasi noch gefixt oder zumindest Ah ja. Unseren Mittel nach versucht. Fixen wollen. Fixen wollen, wie auch immer und das mit dem CFP haben wir quasi auch schon für die nächste Iteration mit erledigt. Ihr könnt nämlich, wenn ihr unter CFP Punkt Programmierpunkt bar einmal klickt, schon euren Talkvorschlag fürs nächste Jahr einreichen. Und die damit, ja, also für die für die nächste Ausgabe, korrekt, für die diesjährige nächste Ausgabe der Programmiercon Und damit bleibt uns nur noch ein Kommentar, den ich zwecks der Formulierung ganz passend fand. Also ich fand, allen in allem war's schon ziemlich perfekt. Fällt mir schwer was zu finden, ehrlich gesagt, also es war schon sehr gut. Vielleicht noch mal so paar Talks bisschen außerhalb von dem AI Thema, mehr Web, es war schon sehr viel AI, aber die Talks überall waren auch sehr gut, also schwierig, da irgendwie Abstriche zu machen. Ich dachte, das nehme ich mit fürn Dennis. Es war alles perfekt, zwar 'n bisschen viel AI, aber AI war auch gut. So, da da hast Du doch bestimmt was sozusagen. Also erst einmal bei Michael, dass wir aufpassen müssen, dass es nicht, dass wir dass wir nicht zu euphorisch sind. Wobei man, also ich mein Also ehrlicherweise waren das die negativsten Beiträge, die wir vom Mikrofon gekriegt haben, so, ne? Das ist das ist gut und man muss ja auch sagen, also nee, man muss nicht sagen, sondern vielleicht kommen wir da auch noch zu, wenn wir unsere eigene Meinung sagen, aber ist natürlich was, also noch mal, selbst dabei war. Ich war sehr positiv überrascht von den, von der Konferenz. Es wird besser jetzt gerade Obwohl der eigenen Verteidigung war der Dennis überrascht Nein, und das lag und das lag und da, das ist jetzt ein Aspekt, für den wir nicht können. Das lag auch an den vielen coolen Gästen, die wir hatten und die haben eine zu 1 Atmosphäre beigetragen, zu einem Austausch beigetragen, zu einem, was wiederum natürlich alle gespürt haben, die da waren, dass es wirklich zu 1 coolen Konferenz geworden ist. Ist ja jetzt schon, oh Gott, Fazit, ganz am Anfang. Und dadurch fühlt es sich, glaube ich, einfach für uns so cool an und wir haben an nur einen Teil dafür bereitgestellt und ein ganz großer Teil, warum es cool war, waren dann all die Leute und die Gäste, die da waren und da hatten wir keinen direkten Einfluss drauf. Total. Deine Einordnung zu unseren Themenschwerpunkten? Hat er jetzt vergessen. Der Reminder. Kuchen? Themenschwerbogen meinst Du? Nein, ich weiß. AI. Ja, also kann ich nachvollziehen und wir hatten tatsächlich, wir hatten Anfang der Woche eine Diskussion über die Programmierkunden 2026 und mein Take war eher, na ja, wir können wahrscheinlich noch mehr von den Technologien streichen, weil wer braucht noch, und damit mache ich mir jetzt nicht so viele Freunde vielleicht da draußen, aber wer braucht noch Technologie x y, wenn ich sowieso mit 'nem den Task umsetze und die Spezifika 1 besonderen, 1 speziellen Frameworks gar nicht mehr kennen muss. Jan, deine Bühne. Meine Bühne? Na ja, dagegen zu wettern. Was heißt denn, dagegen zu wettern? Ich finde es halt trotzdem wichtig, dass man so diese diese Grundlagen irgendwie mitnimmt und man muss ja auch am Ende verstehen, was da so deine AI hinzimmert. Aber Tim, also Tim, der grade das AI Feedback gegeben hat, wenn Du das jetzt hörst und irgendwann die Programmiercon 20 26 Agenda aufmachst und noch mehr AI findest, dann bitte direkt eine E-Mail an Dennis at Punkt on mir Punkt verpassen. Aber ich kann's vielleicht insofern bisschen nachvollziehen, sone thematische AI Fatigue, egal welches Konferenzprogramm oder auch nur Titel, Schwerpunktthema man sich angeschaut hat, war halt immer KI, war immer AI, 2025 noch irgendwas ohne AI zu machen, ging nicht. Und weiß ich nicht, das war vielleicht 2018 19, haben alle von Blockchain geredet und dass man dann sagt, ja, fühl ich jetzt nicht so oder wo ist dann jetzt euer USP, wenn ihr jetzt hauptsächlich über AR redet? Irgendwo kann ich nachvollziehen und gleichzeitig, wenn ich dann spezifisch ins Programm reinschaue und wen wir da hatten und worüber die geredet haben, dann denke ich, war das genau richtig. Also wir haben ja, und jetzt kommen wir vielleicht doch mal zu sonem negativen Punkt, den ich aber leider nicht auf der Turnspur hab, aber ich kann Ihnen ja so mal mitgeben. Wir haben ja schon versucht, Talks zu finden und Speakerinnen zu finden, die dieses AI Thema relativ, ich sag mal, Hype befreit irgendwie angehen, so, ja. Und das war ja auch irgendwie unser Briefing an die alle, wenn ihr was zu dem Thema machen wollt, dann bitte sehr pragmatisch und sehr und zeigt halt auch, wie das funktioniert. Und ich glaub, das haben wir auch irgendwie geschafft. Aber das hat halt auch dazu geführt, dass ganz viele von den Talks viele von den Basics halt wiederholt haben, so. Also ich glaub, ich hab in den 2 Tagen die Definition von, was ist ein Agent und wie ist das Kontextbindung irgendwie aufgebaut, fünfmal gehört oder so, ja. Und das ist vielleicht das, wo wir nächstes Jahr 'n bisschen oder nächstes Mal ein bisschen besser ansetzen können, sagen, okay, wir wollen immer noch diesen pragmatischen Ansatz, aber wir können vielleicht von unserem Publikum schon mehr erwarten oder vermuten ihnen zumindest diese Eingangsdefinitionen und Erklärungen vielleicht in ein oder 2 Talks zu, aber geben halt mehr Speakerinnen noch mal mit, okay, ihr müsst nicht ganz bei 0 anfangen. Und dann ist vielleicht auch das AI Thema nicht ganz so, dann wirkt es nicht ganz so repetitiv. Mhm. Ja. Ja, und ich denk, es hilft auch einfach zu wissen, so das Publikum ist ja da aus 'nem guten Grund, ja. Da ist ja schon eher eine low Bullshit Toleranz. Das ist jetzt ja keine Konferenz, wo dann Leute hingehen, zurück in ihre Organisation gehen zu können, zu sagen, hier, ich hab ganz viel mit AI gemacht und jetzt machen wir da eine Powerpoint Slide draus, sondern wie Du gesagt hast, Hype befreit, es ging teilweise tief in die Themen und dann, also ich find, das relativiert schon 'n guten Teil der Kritik. Ja. Und man muss ja auch sagen, also wir haben ja auch alle Gäste darum gebeten, Feedback zu hinterlassen für die Talks und die, ich weiß nur, die ersten 2 oder ich glaub sogar, die ersten 3 platzierten Talks waren alles AI Talks. Also wir hatten einmal den Talk von Niko Martin über KIT im Browser, das war ja der überhaupt maximal bestgevotetste Talk mit 5 von 5 möglichen Sternen im Schnitt, also ja. Und dann hatten wir noch das Multi Agent und den Talk von Christian Weil, der war, glaube ich, auf Platz 3 oder so. Also, ja. War zwar viel, aber war trotzdem scheinbar auch beliebt und wurde gewertschätzt. Kennt ihr diese Sequenz aus der Teufel trägt Prada? Ist ja mittlerweile so, also mieben, so. Ground Breaking. Ja. So so etwas sehr Offensichtliches, wo man dann sagt, ja, muss es das wirklich sein? Und son bisschen fühl ich fühl ich da schon auch. Aber das heißt nicht, dass mich trotzdem im Frühling schöne florale Muster tragen kann, wenn ich die dieses Bild mal dafür strapazieren kann. Also ich wär verwundert, wenn wir da dieses Jahr gänzlich andere Schwerpunkte setzten. Vanessa, dein größtes Feedbackpotenzial der Programmiercon? Zum Programm? Kann ich leider nicht so viel sagen als jemand, der entwicklungstechnisch nicht so beruflich aktiv ist. Genau, vom Rahmenprogramm oder von irgendwas. Was war uns so am schlechtesten? Am schlechtesten? Eine sehr große Herausforderung, die ich gesehen habe und das ist ein strukturelles Problem auch, ist, dass wir von 22 Speaker*innen 4 hatten, die Flinter Personen sind und das ist schön, dass wir die noch gewinnen konnten, weil lange Zeit in der Vorbereitung habe ich mich gefragt, ob wir überhaupt jemand Nichtmännlichen auf der Bühne stehen haben würden. Trotzdem sind das bei 22 Speaker*innen 18 Prozent nicht männliche Personen und ja ich finde das ein bisschen schade und das ist natürlich auch Also ich bin mir sicher, dass wir da noch besser werden können und dass wir da vielleicht noch Netzwerke aktivieren können wie Women in Tech, die Flatterist, das hatten wir glaube ich angefragt. Wir hatten, ah ich weiß nicht, vielleicht gibt's noch weitere FEMDEVs Meet-up oder was auch immer, wen man so ja kontaktieren kann, da eben noch mehr weibliche Personen auf die Bühne zu bringen, aber da ist es auf jeden Fall ein großes Potenzial, was wir uns mitnehmen können. Und vielleicht können wir auch grade hier die Chance noch nutzen, einmal den Aufruf zu starten. Das wolltest Du grade. Ja. Wenn ihr eine Person kennt, liebe Hörer*innen, die mal auf 1 Web- oder AI Konferenz sprechen möchte oder selbst jemand seid, der was zu erzählen hat und seid da gerne mutig. Das gehört ein bisschen dazu, dann kommt sehr gerne auf uns zu und auch ansonsten würde mich weiterer Input zu dem Thema interessieren. Schreibt uns gerne, wenn ihr weiterhin Ideen habt, wie wir diesem strukturellen Problem begegnen können. Ich würde noch eineinhalb Sätze ergänzen. Unbedingt. Ich glaube, man muss bei der Programmierbar nicht mutig sein, auf der Bühne zu stehen, weil wir, glaub ich, 'n sehr, wie wie sagt man, 'n sehr freundliches Publikum haben. Mhm. Also hab ich schon ganz andere Veranstaltungen erlebt, wo die Leute son bisschen in der Luft zerrissen werden davor oder danach. Und zum anderen, und auch das haben wir letztes Jahr allen angeboten, allen potenziellen Speaker, wenn ihr was cooles zu erzählen habt, aber vielleicht noch nirgendswo auf der Bühne wart oder das noch nicht so oft gemacht habt oder so, dann könnt ihr euch trotzdem gerne melden und ihr könnt uns auch gerne sagen, dass das so ist und wir helfen euch auch gerne in der Vorbereitung, im Üben von dem Talk, in whatever, also daran sollt's nicht scheitern. Sehr schön. Ja. Ich möchte auch das Catering trotzdem noch aufgreifen, weil's immer son Ding ist. Also, weil ich war auch in 'ner gewissen Weise damit unzufrieden. Ich zu meinen, habe ich's mit organisiert und son paar Dinge dann immer gesehen, wo ich so dachte, auf anderen Konferenzen, wo ich dachte, hey, das sind ja Sachen, die man easy fixen kann. Und dann war ich der letzte Worte. Und dann war ich, da war ich wirklich, na, nee, das nicht zu nicht zu ausdrücken. Ich war ein bisschen enttäuscht am am ersten Tag, weil wir mit dem Caterer extra abgesprochen haben, hey, wir sind 150 Leute mit einem Buffet und 1 Schlange. Wird wahrscheinlich 'n bisschen knapp, das zu machen. Also lass uns doch bitte das Buffet von 2 Seiten aufbauen, das klar strukturieren, dass es, ne, von beiden Seiten geht so. Ja, hat nicht funktioniert. Wurde nicht in die Küche weitergegeben, die haben das ja falsch aufgerichtet, deswegen war's auch nicht spontan änderbar. Und auch die Mengen haben mich auch geärgert. Also ich finde auch gut, wenn man foodwaste vermeidet und nicht da in Unmengen ist, aber Das haben wir erfolgreich getan, wenn ich das mal vorsichtig. Ja, zum Aber ist es auch nicht so, dass es so sein sollte, dass Leute sich fragen, ob sie sich was nehmen können, weil's dann vielleicht für andere nicht reicht und besonders beim Kuchen Buffet ist das noch mal aufgeschlagen, wo einige leer ausgegangen sind und das ist auch was, was wir vermeiden sollten. Das hat mir nicht gefallen. Ja, die Qualität war okay, da hat war alles lecker, aber Mehr, paar organisierte Sachen und mehr Donuts. Mehr Donuts und mehr Pizza. Pizza wurde auch noch mal hart gefeiert abends, als wir noch mal, bumm, weiß nicht, 9 Uhr losgefahren waren, noch mal nach und stellt hart sonst holen. Ja. Ja. Hat auch immer son bisschen, na ja, klar ist dann natürlich auch Also so was macht mir auch aus Orgasicht Spaß, wenn man so irgendwie kurzfristig noch irgendwas machen muss und dann hat das irgendwie erfolgreich, so ich, das hab ich Spaß dran, aber auch nicht schlecht, wenn man so meiden kann. Na ja. Jan, hast Du schon was gesagt zu dem Punkt? Ja, hast Du. Zu dem, was was schlecht lief. Ja, ja, ich glaub, es hat alles gesagt. Also was, glaub ich, Besucherinnen und Besucher gar nicht mehr so gemerkt haben, deswegen ist das so unter der Überschrift, was lief schlecht, weiß nicht, ob's so treffend ist, aber was ich mir wünsche und was definitiv dieses Jahr besser klappen wird, ist 'n bisschen mehr mit Pufferarbeiten, was kurzfristige Ausfälle angeht. Ich mein, wir hatten 2 Talks, die ausgefallen sind und einen davon konnten wir direkt nachbesetzen, also props an die Stelle noch mal an Garet, der während der Programmiercon 2 Talks gehalten hat und hinter den hinterm DJ Pult stand. Aber ich glaub, das das ist ganz offensichtlich, dass dass wir da mit 'n bisschen mehr Puffer planen können und nicht nur die Besucherinnen und Besucher davon nix mitbekommen, sondern wir auch ganz entspannt bleiben können, was das angeht. Ja, Du hast, also auf der einen Seite hast Du vollkommen recht, inhaltlich muss das irgendwie gemacht werden, auf der anderen Seite tue ich mir immer son bisschen schwer, wenn ich 'n coolen Speaker hab und 'n Talk oder so und dann zu ihm zu gehen und sagen so, hey, ist megageil. Könntest Du dich bitte hinten anstellen damit, falls irgendjemand nicht kommt, dann würden wir den gerne nehmen. Ansonsten hast Du's leider nicht in den Recall geschafft. Ah, ja. Haben wir doch genug intern hier an Kolleginnen und Kollegen, die wirklich Ahnung haben, die gut präsentieren können und die uns dann auch nicht böse sind, wenn wir das vielleicht dann aufm Meet-up 'n Monat später verschieben. Ja, so was muss man wahrscheinlich irgendwie mal versuchen. Ja. Ja. Wie fandet ihr's von der Infrastruktur her? Also ich hab schon gespürt, dass es für eine Veranstaltung mit 150 Gäst*innen ganz gut war, so wie wir's gelöst haben. Also es waren, weiß nicht sagen wir das, 100 externe Gäste Ja. Und irgendwie paar 'n paaren 50 interne. Und wir haben ja hier parallel gearbeitet. Es ist ja eigentlich macht Lotum ja Mobile Games und es gab ja oben im Studio immer noch Menschen, die hier zu ihrem normalen Job gekommen sind und viele Leute. Die das fairerweise nicht hätten müssen. Die hätten alle an der Konferenz teilnehmen. Ja, haben auch einige. Die wollten liebe Arbeit. Haben ja auch einige. Aber trotzdem sind Teile davon eben mit Autos gekommen, sodass so was wie Parkplätze knapp wurden. Oder ich frag mich auch, wie wir, wenn wir planen sollten, die Veranstaltung zu vergrößern, wie wir das von den Sitzplätzen her machen. Habt ihr dazu Meinung? Ja, den. Ich mein, das diese Parkplatzum hat uns übrigens niemand angekreidet, dass wir auf der Webseite aufm Parkplatz verwiesen haben, der dann irgendwie geschlossen war. Das hat offensichtlich auch niemanden mehr gestört. Aber ja, das sind so Themen, die wir noch schauen müssen. Schreiben wir uns. Wenn irgendjemand doch 'n Strafzettel bekommen hat, dann ich wir verlosen ein T-Shirt. Bei Strafzettelbeschwerden ebenfalls an Dennis. Ich überweis es einfach direkt auf deinem Spendes Konto. Ja, ist richtig, aber also erstens Parkplatzsituation, die Stadt Bad Norheim firmiert einige dieser Parkplätze bei der nächsten Con wird es möglich sein, da zu parken, wo wir jetzt gesagt haben. Dann seht ihr mal, was die Programmierer für den Hebel hat. Kaum hat die einmal Parkplätze gebraucht werden, die umgewidmet. Genau. Und ich bin grundsätzlich bei dir, also das war ja 'n großes Fragezeichen, ne. Ich mein, wir haben einen einen, wie nennt man das, deine Bühne, ja, in einen Bereich gemacht, der sonst eigentlich mehr oder wieder am Flur ist bei uns oben im Büro. Und das hat deutlich besser funktioniert, als ich dachte. Also ich hatte da 'n bisschen Bammel, was die Qualität irgendwie angeht und den Eindruck angeht so als professionelle Konferenz. Aber viele fanden das eigentlich sogar eher positiv, weil's son bisschen, ja, sone Integration war in den Räumen. Also vorher Ich muss das gleich 'n bisschen relativieren, ne. Das, was bei uns im Flur ist, ist halt bei manch anderen Filmen schon die komplette Arbeitsfläche. Also wir haben halt auch einfach Platz in jeglicher Dimension. Ja, aber ja. Ich also vorher, als wir über Größen unsere diskutieren haben, habe ich vorher immer gesagt, Du, wir können einfach irgendwo anders hingehen, größer zu werden. Jetzt würde ich eher sagen, nee, dann bleiben wir lieber kleiner, hier zu sein, weil es für viele wirklich ein, also von dem Feedback, was kam, für viele war es eher ein Highlight, dass es hier in soner dann eher privaten Atmosphäre ist, als in irgendeiner Eventlocation und von daher auf deine Frage einzugehen, ich würde sagen, so 10, 20 kriegen wir im gleichen Setting noch ganz gut unter, sodass es jetzt nicht überfüllt anfühlt und deutlich mehr müssten wir dann überlegen. Man könnte, na, wo das Catering jetzt war, könnte man einen dritten Track machen, wenn man das wollte, das Catering anders zu legen. Also es gibt Möglichkeiten, aber ich glaube, wir werden jetzt nicht mit 300 Leuten in diesen Räumen eine Konferenz veranstalten. Nicht bevor wir nicht angebaut haben. Ja. Ja. Also ich Deswegen kannst Du verstehen ja, teilweise sind wir da vielleicht dabei gewesen, die Kapazitätsgrenzen anzufühlen. Aber für mich hat sich das total schön angefühlt. Also ich mein, wir arbeiten hier regulär die anderen 51 Wochen im Jahr und haben hier enorm viel enorm viel Platz und das ist auch sehr cool. Aber dann das halt mit so viel Leben hier mal wahrzunehmen und die Fläche ganz anders zu nutzen und mit gar nicht mal so viel an Mietmobiliar und Technik das Ganze ausgestei kannst Du gerne noch mal relativieren, Dennis. Ja, ist schon richtig. Aber dass wir da schon mit wenigem zusätzlich enorm viel geschaffen haben, also mir hat das richtig Spaß gemacht und selbst wenn wir dann vielleicht mehr Parkplätze zur Verfügung hätten, ich ich ich war froh, dass dass es so voll war, wie's war. Ja, ich finde auch, das hat sich sehr gemeinschaftlich und familiär schon fast angefühlt, das war schön. Müssen dann Leute halt in den nächsten Ausgaben schauen, dass sie sich bemühen, früh ein Ticket zu bekommen, damit sie noch einen Platz bekommen? Also wir haben ja eine Umfrage gemacht am Ende der Programmierkunden, wer gerne wiederkommen wollen würde und wenn die alle wiederkommen, die tatsächlich angekreuzt haben, dass sie gerne wiederkommen würden, dann wird's eng, wenn der Dennis nur 10, 20 Extratickets neu in den Pool schmeißt, so. Ist doch gut. So, den nächsten Punkt halten wir knapp. Was lief generell gut? Da hab ich auch nur 1 Nippel mitgebracht. Natürlich das Dessert. Ah. Aber zusätzlich die Talks über LLMs, Agenten, wie man das auch alles selber aufsetzen kann, da praktische Insights zu finden und genau, einfach mal die praktische Anwendung zu sehen. Es war Dessert im Haus, Leute. Nicht nur gerüchteweise, sondern es gab wohl wirklich Menschen, die noch was davon abbekommen haben und anscheinend war's so gut. Die Referenz, ich hatte ja im Podcast versprochen, wenn wir ausverkauft sind, dann gibt es Dessert für die, die das im Vorfeld nicht bekommen haben, deswegen war das son kleiner Perk, der freigeschaltet wurde. Und das der Korrektheit dazu zu sagen, wir haben halt das Event, ich glaub, 48 Stunden vor Eröffnung ausverkauft. Ja. Aber in unseren Köpfen war's auch eine Woche vorher bei Catering Bestellung ausverkauft. Aber ja, wir waren sehr optimistisch und haben auf unser Publikum vertraut, dass Das hat funktioniert. Ja. Sonst hätten wir vielleicht gelogen die eine Person. Info von euch, Vanessa. Ja, die tolle Community wurde schon erwähnt. War trotzdem 1 meiner Highlights. Ich hatte das Gefühl, alle hatten Spaß, hatten eine gute Zeit, waren sehr offen, wirkten happy auf mich. Ich hab mich auch gerne mit den Leuten unterhalten. Ich fand's toll, dass wir 2 Programmtracks hatten, gerade im Vergleich zum Flatterday von 2024, aber ich glaube mein Highlight waren die Lightning Talks, weil die bei den Meetups ansonsten so lala ab und an mal und dann auch toll wahrgenommen werden, aber nicht Also das ist jetzt nicht der Standard Mhm. Und die Lightning Talks, also dieses Format, wo Besucher*innen spontan ein über ein Thema ihrer Wahl sprechen können, Das wurde hier wirklich rege genutzt und das fand ich fantastisch. Ja. Ich knüpf vielleicht daran an, also ich weiß gar nicht, haben wir noch sone Highlightfrage? Haben wir nicht, ne? Ach so. Die kommt direkt danach. Stümpfe nicht dran. Michael, was darf ich generell, was darf ich generell gut? Also ich würd sagen, dass sehr spürbar war, dass ja, dass das eine Community ist und dass das nicht so austauschbar ist, was wir hier machen. Was ich grade schon gesagt habe, dass wir auch, ne, Sachen wie Technik und so selber koordiniert haben, dass auch, weiß ich nicht, hinter der Bar nicht irgend eine bezahlte Servicekraft stand, sondern eine Kollegin, die Sophie unter anderem. Fairerweise, also die wurde auch bezahlt für die Zeit, ja? Das ist nicht so viel Glück. Ja, ja, worauf ich not für ist, es ist jetzt nicht eine angemietete Messehalle. Ja, ja, ich weiß nicht. Es, ja, ne, sondern in in jedes Detail wurden viele, viel Gedanken, viel Herzblut reingesteckt und ich glaub, das war wirklich sehr spürbar. Ich kann mich anschließen bei den Lightning Talks. Ich fand auch sehr cool, dass das das einzige war, was von dem zeitlichen Rahmen komplett eskaliert ist. Ansonsten war das nämlich vom Timeboxing, also war ich wirklich sehr beeindruckt, dass das 2 Tage mit sehr viel Disziplin von allen Beteiligten Bist Du, Du warst beeindruckt? Ich war einfach nur überrascht. Ja, aber auch sonst, wie gesagt, das Rahmenprogramm Decoding Challenge war auf jeden Fall mit der Eigendynamik, die die auch hatte, sehr cool, dass das so gehjjackt wurde, vielleicht nicht ganz intendiert, aber auf jeden Fall für mich 'n besonderer Moment gewesen, ja. Da hab ich eben gestockt, das wär jetzt, das wär bei meinem Highlight noch gekommen, aber das darfst Du ja trotzdem, darfst Du ja trotzdem schon nennen. Dann, was waren Highlights für Talks und Dinge? Talks und Dinge wahrscheinlich orientier mich nur an deine Frage. Du siehst es einfach, ich hätte irgendwas viel Lustiges da reinschreiben, sondern ich wusste, dass es uns einfach so ab ist, wenn auch Potenzial genügt. Wir jetzt uns ja fürs nächste Mal. Son Angriff irgendwie. Okay, was haben wir hier für Stimmen aus der Community? Die vielen Horrorgespräche, von wegen was man wie besser machen kann, sich einfach individuelle Tipps holen, das ist einfach superviel wert. Das haben wir. Wir haben außerdem was, was grade eben schon genannt wurde. Also komplette Konferenz, so das Ganze drum rum. Hat super funktioniert, coole Leute, coole Vorträge. Gestern Abend die die Coding Challenges und das zu sehr zu leicht heckbare System war auf jeden Fall sehr lustig. Das war auf jeden Fall lustig. Und wir haben noch 1 oder Dennis Spund auch die Stimme gleich wiedererkennt. Ich würd sagen, ich ich kann das nicht in in eine Sache zusammenfassen, aber es ist eher so die ganzen kleinen Details, wo man merkt, da ist viel Liebe reingegangen. Also allein das Abendprogramm, das das waren so viele Sachen, das ist so cool. Und sehr viele Details einfach, man merkt, da ist Herzblut reingegangen und das find ich richtig cool. Kann man doch so stehen lassen. Ja. Ich mein, ich geh noch mal 'n Schritt zurück, so. Wir waren ja vor 'nem Dreivierteljahr auf 'nem offsite. So, wir haben uns ja in son Märchenschloss eingeschlossen und 2 Tage lang überlegt, ja, programmierbar dies, das, wo lang. Und wenn der Michael sagt, wir haben uns in 'nem Märchenschloss eingeschlossen, haben wir das wirklich gemacht. Ja, true. Ist Harry Potter 'n Märchen? Ja. Das das war, glaub ich, auch nur so ziemlich offiziell gefeamt, weil wir wollen ja keine, ja, eigene eigene Debatte, die wir hier gerne ausgeliehen können. Ein Schulschloss. Ein ein schönes Schloss hier in Mittelhessen. Und in dem Kontext ist ja auch die Entscheidung gefallen hier, okay, wie geht's weiter mit der Konferenzplanung und auch, wie wollen wir das thematisch aufstellen? Und eine Metapher, die da sehr bemüht wurde, war der Tellerrand. Oh Gott. Den Blick über den Tellerrand. Das das war letztendlich, worauf wir gesetzt haben zu sagen, das macht ja irgendwie die programmierbar aus, deswegen hören die Leute unsere Podcasts, deswegen kommen sie auf unsere. Ja. Und ich glaube, das, dieses Versprechen haben wir wirklich eingelöst. Das ist uns sehr gut gelungen. Sind wir jetzt die Konferenz gewesen, wenn Du spezifisch für das eine Framework State of the Art die neuesten Updates und Best Practices erfahren willst? Nein, aber das wollten wir auch überhaupt nicht sein. Deswegen diese Bandbreite an Themen und diesen Austausch, ich glaub, das das ist uns sehr gut gelungen. Das haben wir auch gesehen bei den Leuten, die gekommen sind. Ja, ich hab vorher ja mir, das ist son bisschen Krankheit als Recruiter, ich hab jeden Gast, jede Gästin vorher recherchiert, wo die arbeiten, was deren Job ist und da allein zu sehen, wie was das auch schon für eine Bandbreite ist, hat auch das wieder bekräftigt. Also sowohl, was auf der Bühne passiert ist, ne. Gut, da hatten wir auch gut Einfluss drauf natürlich. Ist uns gut gelungen, dass da eine große Bandbreite an Themen serviert wurde, aber auch die Menschen, die dann hier waren und entsprechend auch Hallway Track, was dort an Austausch möglich war, Fand ich sehr, sehr cool. Einfach jede Begegnung sehr nett und und spannend, ja. Ja. Schön. Schön gesagt. Ja. Ja, also ich nehm vielleicht mal auch noch mal das ganze Abendprogramm, weil das für mich so die Kombination war aus erstens, also Julian hatte mit der Coding dem Programmiercontest eine ziemlich coole Challenge da gemacht und dass dann auch so viele aktiv waren, genauso wie in den Lightning Talks vorher und wo man das wirklich abmoderieren musste, so, dass es das noch weitergehen muss und dann irgendwie bis bis 11 noch echt echt 'n großer Teil irgendwie da waren. Das hat halt für mich auch noch mal das diese Stimmung einfach zusammengefasst. Dass viele einfach Bock darauf haben, auch am zweiten Tag eigentlich bis zum Ende der Konferenz irgendwie fast alle da waren und nicht irgendwie schon alle die ganze Zeit, ne, irgendwie losgelaufen sind und nur noch irgendwie in der Hyper Saal da war. Das das hat, ja, das noch mal so zusammengefasst. Also es war, das waren sehr, sehr schöne Momente dabei. Ja, wer sich den Programmiercontest noch mal anschauen will, kann das auch auf Youtube machen. Der ist nämlich Teil von dem, wie heißt das so? After Event Movie. After Movie. After Movie, ja, ja. Da ist auch drin. Da sieht man Krischer hart am Verzweifeln. Sehr gut. Ja, Shoutout an Julian. Ich fand den Contest auch fantastisch. Ich konnte es zwar technisch wie gesagt oder fachlich nicht einordnen und was da so passiert, aber es schien den Leuten sehr viel Spaß zu machen. Ich fand's lustig, dass was für Bildchen da entstanden sind und ja, das war auch ohne Codingkenntnisse sehr unterhaltsam zu beobachten und ich fand es schön, dass dann danach auch die Stimmung viel gelöster war und ich hatte so das Gefühl, das hatte auch noch Einfluss darauf, wie die Leute dann zusammengekommen sind, noch getanzt haben, am Kicker waren, am Billardtisch und sich dann auch so bisschen durch das Buffet gesnackt haben, das war sehr schön. Vielleicht einmal zu erklären, was die Calling Challenge überhaupt war oder was da passiert ist. Für alle, die nicht dabei waren, das war sone Plighting Challenge. Wir hatten 3 Sitzplätze auf der Bühne aufgebaut, im Prinzip die Leute mit einem Laptop ausgestattet und 'nem sehr rudimentären Textfeld ohne viel und so was. Und da mussten sie kleine Calling Aufgaben lösen mit dem kleinen Handicap, dass sie nicht sehen, was quasi das Ergebnis ihres Codes ist, sondern dass nur alle anderen hinter ihnen auf der Leinwand sehen und das natürlich für viele, viele lustige Momente gesorgt hat und das Publikum natürlich hart versucht war, also auf der einen Seite natürlich nicht den Leuten zu helfen, aber trotzdem natürlich durch, ich sag mal, verschiedene Ausdrücke von Stimmungen zu sagen, ob das, was sie da gerade machen, gut oder schlecht funktioniert und so. Das war schon waschen lustig. Also wir hatten das ja hier intern einmal 'n paar Wochen vorher getestet mit Dennis, Julian, ach, wer war 'n wer war noch da? Carlo war noch dabei, glaub ich. Und wer noch, als wir das intern? Lisa. Lisa war auch noch dabei, ja. Und ich fand das phänomenal lustig. Also als wir das da getestet haben, hab ich gedacht, also das, da glaub ich dran. Das das wird 'n Erfolg. Und das war mit auch 1 meiner Highlights von den ganzen 2 Tagen. Ja, cool. Dann gerade Ihr hattet noch 3 Highlights gefragt. Ich hab hätte noch was. Hau raus, Vanessa. Du hast die Fragen wohl auch so gelesen, wie sie da stehen. So. Ich fand das fantastisch, auch wenns eben schon mal anklang, dass wir ein mehrtägiges Event gemacht haben, weil ich das Gefühl hatte, gerade im Vergleich zu dem Flatter Day, den wir davor hatten, dass es erlaubt hat, einfach noch viel tiefer in den Austausch zu gehen mit den anderen Leuten. Und das ist ja was, was ich so von diesen O-Tönen da rausgenommen hab, dass Leute das auch wirklich schätzen, dass man hier diesen fachlichen Austausch, diese Hallway Gespräche hat und am zweiten Tag ist man einfach von Natur aus glaube ich etwas gelöster und spricht auch vielleicht noch ein bisschen lockerer oder hat sich am ersten Tag einen Talk angehört von 1 Person, die sie die jemanden inspiriert hat und kann dann eben noch mal auf die Person zugehen, wenn man es am ersten Tag nicht geschafft hat und das hat mir sehr sehr große Freude bereitet. Und möchtet ihr dazu anknüpfen oder? Nur zu nur zu Raus machen. Zustimmt nicken, das hört man nicht. Muss festernicken, dass ich das Mikrofon mit wackel. Berächt hat sie. Und was mich auch, was ich Mindblowing finde ist, dass wir dieses Lothum Office hier zu einem sehr individuellen, sehr besonderen Konferenzort gewandelt haben. Wie gesagt, oben wurden weiterhin Mobile Games entwickelt von den Leuten, die ja vielleicht die Weiterbildung in dem Moment nicht genutzt haben und an ihrem in ihr Projekt vertieft waren oder was auch immer. Sie hatten die Möglichkeit dazu zu kommen. Aber ich bin immer wieder davon beeindruckt, was Lotum so auf die Beine stellt und wie wir es schaffen, hier ein Büro, das eigentlich zum produktiven Arbeiten genutzt wird, ja so zu verwandeln, dass sich hier 100 Leute, die von extern hier reinkommen, wohlfühlen und was dazulernen und irgendwie inspiriert werden und Sachen mitnehmen für ihren Arbeitsalltag und vielleicht dann auch irgendwas anders machen. Und ja, ich find's fantastisch, dass wir ja Teile der Saline halt nutzen konnten, hier Essen anzurichten, einen Mittagsessen Spot zu schaffen, 2 Tracks zu machen und wie gesagt, diesen Flur einfach in L-Form zu 1 Bühne gemacht haben. Ich, also es ist einfach ein fantastischer Ort der Weiterbildung und des Austauschs gewesen und das finde ich, das finde ich mindblowing. Da hab ich eine lustige Ergänzung zu. Mich hat nämlich, ich glaube am, es war so zur Mittagspause am ersten Tag ein Teilnehmer angesprochen, gefragt, wo wir denn diese coole Eventlocation gemietet hätten, wer würde die vielleicht auch gerne mal in Anspruch nehmen wollen für eine Veranstaltung. Spannend. Das geht leider nicht. Nein. Die gehen wir nicht her. Auch für eine Abendveranstaltung, wenn wir da mit Sicherheit für einen Austausch Das klang wir ja so nach so 'ner Firmen in der Nähe. Für Weihnachtsfeiern sind wir jetzt vielleicht nicht zu haben, aber Nur für unsere eigenen. Nur für die eigenen, ja. Aber ab und an andere Meetups haben wir ja bereits hier Ja, das machen wir gerne. Gerne und regelmäßig. Cool, dann ist glaube ich eine übliche Frage in diesem Format des Specials. Ja. Zumindest war noch nie in 'nem Konferenz Special am Start, glaube ich. Ich, und die Frage, die ich immer stelle, an dieser Stelle ist, für wen lohnt sich ein Besuch, in Klammern, eventuell nicht? Das haben wir natürlich auch, ich wollt grad sagen, einhundert Leute haben wir gefragt, ob das das richtig, das merkt wahrscheinlich keiner da draußen. Wir haben auch die Leute gefragt, für wen sie das empfehlen wollen würden und haben da auch ein paar O-Töne eingesammelt. Ich glaub, hier können eine ganz große Bandbreite von Leute herkommen. Ich glaub, für Anfänger ist unheimlich viel dabei, für absolute Profis ist viel dabei. Ich entwickel selbst seit über 25 Jahren. Ich hab viel mitgenommen, aber ich hab auch gesehen, dass es wirklich unglaublich viele Impulse gibt. Jeder Redner hat sich sehr viel Mühe gemacht, auch Anfänger gut abzuholen. Also ich glaub, es ist für alle Stufen was dabei. Also alle Stufen am Start und? Jeder, der sich für Webentwicklung interessiert, AI Entwicklungen und generell auch einfach Lust hat, neue nette Menschen kennenzulernen, würd ich sagen. Also alle Stufen und nette Menschen und Philipp hat das am Ende noch mal ganz schön auf einen Punkt gebracht. Allen allen Entwicklern in Deutschland auf jeden Fall, also Da hab ich nichts hinzuzufügen. Dann kommen wir eventuell doch an Kapazitätsgrenzen. Kann ich mir vorstellen. Das ist, vielleicht ist das so wie sone Pilgerfahrt. Jeder Entwickler muss das halt einmal im Leben das gemacht haben. Die müssen ja nicht alle jedes Jahr herkommen. Ui, ui. Noch mal im Kreis dieser Linie laufen. Wir wollten uns nicht zu viel loben, ne. Ich, das war gar, es war gar nicht wertend gemeint. Nein, kam ganz neutral an. Ja. Okay. Na ja, sorry, Du hast grade angesetzt. Nee, Du auch. Ich mein, so inhaltlich zu den Vorträgen, ne, könnt ihr auch gerne noch eure Einordnung zu geben, aber ich denk, das kann man sich auch vorher in der Agenda anschauen und so. Was vielleicht aber schwieriger zu transportieren ist, ist eben so alles drum herum. Und wenn ich überlege, gehe ich zu 'ner Konferenz oder nicht, dann stellt sich auch die Frage, so gehe ich da alleine hin? Kann ich noch jemand anderes dafür begeistern? Und ich will jetzt gar nicht dazu aufrufen, alleine hierherzukommen, zum Programmierkorn. Es ist ja cool, nehmt Kolleginnen und Kollegen mit. Wir hatten, glaub ich, ein Unternehmen, die waren zu 12, zu 13 da. Das ist megacool. Aber wenn ich eine Sache herausgreifen würde, für wen sich die Konferenz lohnt, ist für Leute, die alleine kommen. Also ich ich mein, es gibt auch sehr riesige große Konferenzen da draußen, die haben auch ihre Vorteile. Da sind dann 20 Tracks parallel und nein, wir hatten keinen Moon Boutiqueans im Abendprogramm eingeladen. Okay, aber ich glaube, es ist kaum auf 'ner Konferenz so einfach in Kontakt zu treten. Grade weil es so familiär ist, Du kannst jede Person anquatschen. Also ich ich glaub, jede Person war da einfach so zugänglich, sicherlich auch irgendwie durch die Angebote, die wir hatten, ne, dass dass man da in verschiedenen Formen auch in Interaktion treten kann, je nachdem auch wie groß die eigene soziale Batterie gerade ausgestattet ist, ne. Da hat das hatten wir schon auch bewusst vorab ab berücksichtigt, dass wir da verschiedene Angebote haben und das ist, glaube ich, schon was, was ich herausstreichen kann. Ich meine, natürlich ist das jetzt durchaus bei, ist aus meiner Position hier zu sagen, wenn ich jetzt hier jeden Tag hier ein- und ausgehe, aber ich war durchaus auch auf Konferenzen, wo ich mich 'n bisschen lost gefühlt hab und so dachte, ja gut, was machst Du jetzt? Und die Menschen irgendwie sehr gruppiert und verschlossen waren. Und ich mein, ich kannte ja auch 80 Prozent der Leute, die hier waren, nicht. Aber ich hatte so viele Momente, in denen ich das geändert hab und es war megaschön. Ich würd son bisschen den Kontrapunkt dazu vielleicht setzen und sagen, wenn Du das Maximale aus der Programmierkunden mitnehmen willst, dann musst Du aber auch son bisschen vielleicht der Typ sein, der son bisschen ist, ja. Also wir haben jetzt von den Stimmen, die alle hier waren gehört, der Hallway Drag war super, das Abendprogramm war super, die Gespräche waren irgendwie alle cool, die Speaker waren zugänglich, aber davon profitierst Du halt schon auch nur, wenn Du das so bisschen proaktiv mitnimmst. Weißt Du, was ich mein? Also es ist eine intensive Erfahrung und ich glaub, dass das für Menschen, viele Menschen sehr anstrengend ist. Aber wenn Du überlegst, dir fällt so was vielleicht tendenziell schwer, aus der Position heraus. Betrachtend würde ich sagen, ist es verhältnismäßig Es ist hier noch einfacher, auf jeden Fall, aber ich glaube schon, dass man das, dass man diesen diesen Schritt irgendwie son bisschen machen sollte, halt hier wirklich aus dem Vollen schöpfen zu können. Heißt das nicht, ne, wie Du gesagt hast, in manch anderen Veranstaltungen, die son bisschen mehr verschulter sind, wo halt viel Frontalunterricht ist und 90 Prozent des Wertes ergibt sich irgendwie aus den Sessions oder so was, das ist es ja hier genau nicht. So, und da muss man auch Spaß dran haben können wollen. Ja, Spaß dran haben von mir aus, aber man muss es nicht können in dem Sinne. Ich glaube, da bin ich eher bei Michael, ich glaube, das ist halt tatsächlich vor der Atmosphäre und es hat mich auch also sehr positiv überrascht, aber dass überall eigentlich immer kleine Grüppchen am Reden waren und ich selten das Gefühl hatte, da sind irgendwie Leute ausgegrenzt, die jetzt nicht gerade in der Interaktion sind. Also da war so waren halt sehr sehr viele da, die das gut können und im Zweifel glaube ich auch noch Leute mitgenommen haben, die die für die denen es ein bisschen schwerer fällt. Und von daher ja schon eine sehr inklusive Crowd. Ja ich wollte, ja okay, inklusive Crowd. Ich glaube auch, dass wir als programmierbar Crew ganz gut darin sind, auf solche Leute zuzugehen, die vielleicht gerade 'n bisschen alleine rumstehen. Aber ansonsten lohnt es sich vielleicht auch für alle Drinnies und Introvertierten da draußen, unserem Discord Server beizutreten, weil das wollen wir ja sicherlich im beim nächsten Mal 'n bisschen mehr noch nutzen und vielleicht, also selbst wenn man sich jetzt nicht traut, jemanden anzusprechen, kann man darüber trotzdem Leute finden, die auch da waren oder Kontakte knüpfen im Nachhinein und noch mal über Sachen schreiben, über die man sich vielleicht nicht traut zu sprechen. Völlig völlig fein. Ja, war lieber Punkt. Und für wen lohnt es sich nicht zu kommen? Für Leute, die sich schon Die schon alles wissen. Zu gut auskennen, die können ja dann gerne was zu unserem Programm beitragen und vielleicht einen einen Call for Participation ausfüllen. Die URL war CFP Punkt Programmier Punkt bar. Ganz einfach. Ja und vielleicht Leute, die keinen Bock auf Austausch haben, die müssen auch nicht kommen. Die haben wir auch nicht bis hierhin gehört, glaube ich. Okay. Ja das, weil als Dennis gerade sagte, das ist, das hat gar nicht so stattgefunden, was ich meinte, so dieses vielleicht 'n bisschen zu introvertiert sein, da ist halt auch son harter Selbst Selection Bias drin, ne. Ich glaub, wenn Du so die programmierbar hörst und weißt, was wir so für Leute sind und unsere Meetups kennst und keine Ahnung, dann hilft das, glaube ich, schon auch so in die richtige Stimmung zu kommen einfach dafür. Mhm. Ja. Ja. Judi, dann so, ist alles gesagt oder was? Genau, nee, ja fast. Also wir sprachen ja jetzt seit von 2026. Wir wissen intern immer noch nicht genau das Datum, aber ihr könnt euch schon mal Kalenderwochen 46 bis 48 einfach mal generell blocken. Komplett. Pauschal. Darf ich mal keine 20 Tage? 20 Tagen. Schon ergreifen für Menschen, die keine Ahnung haben, wann Kalenderwoche 46 bis 48 ist? Siehst Du, da musst Du selber nachschauen. Aha. Ja, aber in dem Kalender ist das nun mal links davon einfach angezeigt, was Du Ich muss ich musste so lachen, weil Michael, mir ging es ganz lange auch so und ich hab auch bei ganz vielen Sachen bei den Kalenderwochen Mensch bekommen. Ja, und das ist so schlimm. Das das war so relativ früh in meinem Berufsleben, wo ich dachte, so, Leute, was redet ihr irgendwelche Zahlen? Es gibt Daten, die hat man schon sonst erfunden so, ja? Und niemand denkt in den Kalenderwochen. Achtundzwanzigster November. Das sind 2 Wochen. Welche 46 bis? Ach, 46. 9 46 inklusive bis 48. Ja, okay. 9 bis 28. Und wir werden das wahrscheinlich auch wieder mittwochs und donnerstags machen. Also ihr müsst euch nicht 3 komplette Wochen freihalten. Es reicht, wenn ihr euch dreimal mittwochs- und Donnerstags feiert. Und das, Michael, ist der zwölfte, dreizehnte, Neunzehnte und Zwanzigster und sechsundzwanzigste, siebenundzwanzigster November zweitausendsechshundertundzwanzig. Zehnter und Neunzehnte, nicht Neunzehnte und Zwanzigster. Natürlich. Vielleicht haltet ihr euch einfach doch die 3 Wochen von Ja. Bis die beiden Seiten. Oder ihr hört den Podcast oder folgt uns auf Social Media, da werden wir's noch mal kommunizieren. Ja. Ja. Bald auch auf TikTok. Jetzt gibt's hier schon die ersten Spoiler und Teaser kommen hier schon krass. Wenn wir über Videos reden, können wir aber auch gleich sagen, dass die Videos von den Talks und den Speakerinnen von 20 25 dann auch zeitnah auf der Webseite erscheinen werden, vielleicht sogar schon, bis diese Folge veröffentlicht ist. Schauen wir mal, aber auf alle Fälle unter Programmier Punkt bar Slash Konferenzen. Einfach mal reinschauen. Sind wir schon in der Abmoderation? Noch nicht. Die Abmoderation ist, was Du draus machst. Was wäre eine Abmoderation ohne noch mal 'n Call for Action? Weil wir machen das Ganze, euch da draußen eine gute Zeit zu bescheren. Und deswegen, wenn ihr uns noch jetzt im Kommentarfeld keine Wünsche geschrieben habt, welche Themen und Speaker*innen wir für die Bühne in Kalenderwoche 46 bis 48, 2006 20 begeistern sollen, dann schreibt jetzt mal rein, weil wir können nichts versprechen, ja. Also nur wenn ihr jetzt da 'n ganz besonders großen Namen, eine Koryphäe reinschreibt, dann ist die jetzt vielleicht nicht als Headliner der Programmierkunden gesetzt, aber es hilft uns trotzdem. Und vielleicht versuchen wir es ja, die Person dann hier hinzugewinnen. Das versuchen wir uns auf jeden Fall. Da merkt man, dass der Michael der Social Media Hase hier ist. Wie machen Hasen? Hoppel, hoppel. Nein, ich mein, weil Du sollst dir hier Call to Action und Ende und schreibt uns in die Kommentare und bla bla bla so. Folgt uns, bewertet uns, gibt uns 5 Sterne. Lasst 'n Like da, was auch immer. Folgt rein. Folgt rein, was? Also der Aufruf ist ja wohl wirklich nicht mehr notwendig. Das das ist das setze ich, das nehm ich als Gesetz. Ja. Okay, letzte, berühmte letzte Worte, möchte jemand noch was? Ist für jemand, was noch nicht wo losgeworden bei diesen 4 fantastischen Fragen, die Jan vorbereitet? Nicht? Na gut, dann freuen wir uns sehr, ich freue mich sehr auf die Programmiercon 2026. Auch für ganz viele von euch sind wieder dabei. Wenn ihr nicht dabei wart und die Folge euch geholfen hat, ein bisschen das einzuordnen und vielleicht Lust gemacht hat, darauf auch zu kommen, dann würde uns natürlich sehr freuen. Sonst habt ihr eine gute Zeit und bis dahin. Michael, Vanessa, vielen, vielen Dank euch besonders, dass ihr beiden heute hier wart und euch die Zeit genommen habt. Danke euch. Und ihr habt beide sehr angenehme Podcaststimmen. Ich finde, man Dank ja eben so. Ich glaube, man ist auch schon, ihr wollt man Ja, ich kann irgendwie mehr draus ziehen. Immer gern. Lasst uns irgend 'n anderen Konkurrenzpodcast starten. Ja. Wenn der Inhalt nicht besser zu euch passt. Gut, das war's. So schön hier auf den letzten Sekunden. Tschau, tschau. Na ja, worüber können wir reden? Tschüs. Tschüs. Okay, das machen wir 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Ich bin Dennis und heute gibt's noch ein kurzes Vorgeplänkel, es einzuordnen. Und zwar ist die Programmierbar mehr als nur der Podcast, denn wir haben auch Konferenzen, die veranschalten. Dieses Jahr findet wieder die Programmier Con 2026 statt mit dem Fokus auf AI und Web und wir haben uns letztes Jahr über diese Konferenz unterhalten und eine Podcastfolge dazu aufgenommen, die ihr gleich hier im Anschluss hört, wollen aber direkt jetzt schon drauf hinweisen, dass der Ticketverkauf jetzt startet. Ab dem ersten Juni könnt ihr Tickets kaufen im Early Bird für 299 bis Ende des Monats und danach regulär für 349 Euro.\n\nUnd ja, jetzt kommen 'n paar Ausschnitte von Gästen, die wir interviewt haben zur letzten Folge. Müssen unsere eigene Eindrücke haben. Von daher ganz viel Spaß bei der Folge und wenn ihr Interesse habt, kauft schnell eure Tickets. Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu 1 neuen programmierbar Folge. Wieder einem Und zwar reden wir heute wieder über eine Konferenz und zwar über die Programmiercon.\n\nIch bin Dennis Becker, zusammen heute mit mir im Studio.\n\nSpeaker 1: Jan Gregor Engetribel. Moin moin.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und wir haben 2 in Anführungsstrichen Gäste, die wir uns eingeladen haben, heute wieder diese Konferenz zu sprechen, denn sie sind Teil der programmierbar, aber nicht so regelmäßigen Podcasts und wie ich heute erfahren habe, sogar 1 von den beiden erstmalig Podcast. Die andere Person war schon mal da. Herzlich willkommen Vanessa.\n\nSpeaker 2: Hi.\n\nSpeaker 0: Philatzschikanski. Ja, Zekanski, ja. Zekanski, na ja, fast. Schön, dass Du wieder dabei bist. Was war deine erste Folge?\n\nSpeaker 2: Meine erste Folge war die über die Devcom 2025.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also auch ein Konferenz Special. Yes. Das kennst Du dich aus. Und wir haben noch Michael Meyer am Start. Hallo Michael.\n\nSpeaker 3: Hi, hi. Schön hier sein zu können.\n\nSpeaker 0: Michael, was machst Du so bei der Programmierbau und darüber hinaus?\n\nSpeaker 3: Ich bin bisher eher im Hintergrund bei der Programmierbar. Tatsächlich weiß ich nicht, ob ich lieber die Selbstbezeichnung programmier Barkeeper oder Programmierbärchen mag. 2 Hauptsachen. Ich bin früher viel in der Speaker*innenakquise tätig gewesen. Das heißt, spannende Stimmen für den Podcast und aber auch für die Meetups zu gewinnen.\n\nDas ist ein großer Teil. 'N zweiter Teil ist dann hier bei den Meetups und jetzt auch bei der Programmierko natürlich. Ja, 'n guter Gastgeber zu sein, sicherzustellen, dass sowohl die Leute auf der Bühne, aber vor allem auch die vor der Bühne eine gute Zeit hier haben und da in den Austausch zu gehen. Und ich glaube, mein größtes Achievement für die programmierbar war, Jan Gregor für uns zu gewinnen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Wenn ich da noch\n\nSpeaker 3: 'n paar Lorbeeren abhaben kann, dann nehm ich die gerne. Verdient.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also ich ich nehm das als Kompliment, aber ich ich ja. Ja. Lassen wir das mal zu Achievement stehen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Man ist ja auch, wenn Du schon mal da warst, aber gerne auch noch einen Satz über dich.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, also wenn wir jetzt im programmierbar Kosmos bleiben, bin ich hinter den Kulissen gar nicht so viel tätig. Ja, Lektoren trifft es vielleicht am ehesten. Ich gestalte die Texte mit, muss man mittlerweile sagen im Zeitalter von KI. Mhm. Und ja, ansonsten auch son bisschen in der Mitorganisation von Events und Konferenzen, die bei uns so stattfinden, wie wir alle eigentlich.\n\nSpeaker 1: Darf ich kurz noch eine Lanze für Vanessa brechen, weil sie das gerade so sehr kurz verkauft Gerne. Stattfindet. So. Also eigentlich bist Du schon überall mit am Start, wenn wir über die Programmierer reden, egal ob wir neue Formate oder was mit ganz anderen Medien oder was mit Partnerschaften oder keine Ahnung. Also eigentlich außer vorm Mikrofon bist eigentlich immer dabei.\n\nSpeaker 2: Danke dir. Das ist schön, das nehme ich.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das stimmt. Und auch immer schön präsent auf unseren Meetups. Hast Du das eben erwähnt?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Nee.\n\nSpeaker 3: Und selbst auch für die Leute, die nicht vor sind, wenn die dann im währenddessen oder danach coole Social Media machen Ja. Von Meetups und dergleichen, dann entstamm die ja auch wieder da wieder deiner Fehler.\n\nSpeaker 0: Bist die programmierbar?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich bin die programmierbar.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr gut.\n\nSpeaker 2: Alles, was man online sieht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja cool. Wie so eine Du bist Deutschland Kampagne, man muss nur für die Programmierer.\n\nSpeaker 2: Oh bitte nicht mit mir, nee.\n\nSpeaker 1: Du bist der Baum.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, ist mit Sicherheit dort ein bisschen besonders. Wir haben ja schon einige Specials gemacht, wo wir Konferenzen reden, so ein bisschen Katalog zu haben, falls ihr euch da draußen was anguckt und unsicher seid, ist das eine Konferenz, die zu mir passt. Jetzt sitzen hier 4 Leute, die unmittelbar mit der Organisation dieser Konferenz zu tun hatten. Wir hoffen aber trotzdem, dass es 'n möglichst realistisches Bild und nicht nur Schulterklopfen wird und haben auch ein paar externe Stimmen aufgenommen auf der Konferenz, ein paar Eindrücke zu sammeln. Und vielleicht ja, können wir ja auch noch über das ein oder andere Nähkästchen, nee, nicht über das ein oder andere Nähkästchen, sondern aus dem ein oder anderen Nähkästchen plaudern und gucken, wie wir es so selbst erlebt haben, weil wir nun mal alle sehr nah mit dran waren, nicht mit dabei waren.\n\nMan merkt auf jeden Fall, eigentlich sollten häufiger Michael und Vanessa hier sitzen, die können nämlich deutlich besser formulieren können als ich, der seit 7 Jahren einen Podcast bot. Programmiercon. Wer häufig diesem Podcast folgt, hat es wahrscheinlich schon mal gehört und gerade vor der Konferenz haben wir nicht ganz selten die Konferenz auch im Podcast erwähnt, war unsere zweite Große, kann man sagen. Nach dem Flatterday 2024 hatten wir im Herbst letzten Jahres die Programmier Programmier Con 2025, die Web- und AI Edition, die damit auch tatsächlich schon mal son bisschen den Rahmen vorgibt. Generell im programmierbar Kosmos sprechen wir immer von Web- und App Development so als Zielgruppe und eben dort Web und AI als Themen.\n\n2 Tage, 2 Tracks, round about 20 Speaker*innen, die wir vor Ort hatten und ja, einiges an KI Themen, aber auch ein paar eher dann technische Sachen, die in andere oder im Webbereich verlagert waren. Und ausverkauft. Und ausverkauft.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und ausverkauft. Damit mit bisher.\n\nSpeaker 2: Mehr als ausverkauft.\n\nSpeaker 0: Stimmt und damit mit bisher.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ein Ticket mehr.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ein Ticket mehr, das ist richtig, weil 1 ohne Ticket erschien.\n\nSpeaker 1: Spontane Abendkasse sozusagen, Morgenkasse, keine Ahnung.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und was richtig krass ist und ich glaube, das hat da draußen noch keiner erlebt, der jemals eine Konferenz veranstaltet hat. Es sind es waren alle Gäste da. Es gab keinen, der aus Krankheitsgründen ausgefallen ist.\n\nSpeaker 3: Zum Glück sind wir keine Deadline.\n\nSpeaker 1: Fan Nuff, wir hatten einen Gast, der erst am zweiten Tag gekommen ist, weil er vorher Probleme Speakerin, die ausgefallen war, aber die Teilnehmer, die waren sehr diszipliniert. Ja. Das stimmt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Judi, tja, wie steigen wir ein? Wollen wir mal so anfangen mit so, hast Du, Du hast son Soundboard vorbereitet, glaube ich, an?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, das mag ich schon Quick Time Soundboard.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Echt? Dann lass uns doch erst mal mit dem Dingen starten, die nicht so gut liefen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Die nicht so gut liefen?\n\nSpeaker 0: Die nicht so gut liefen. Was lief generell schlecht?\n\nSpeaker 1: Fangen wir mal mit dem guten Beispiel an. Ich krieg nur eine Frage. Ja. Es\n\nSpeaker 4: ist echt sensationell gut organisiert. Es ist eine ganz tolle Location. Das Team von euch ist supernett, jeder ist echt richtig, richtig freundlich. Das Einzige ist, dass ich hab gestern keinen Kuchen mehr bekommen,\n\nSpeaker 1: also das ist die, das ist\n\nSpeaker 4: die einzige Geschichte, aber das Essen war ansonsten auch super. Also ich sehe wirklich keine Verbesserungsmöglichkeiten, sorry.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ach so, also das wird jetzt die Folge, in der wir uns nicht selbst beobachten.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich ich hab hier ich hab ja einen Spannungsbogen, ja, den es nicht zu torpedieren gilt, so.\n\nSpeaker 2: Aber Kuchengate hab ich mir auch als Allererstes aufgeschrieben.\n\nSpeaker 1: Kuchengate und gleich wirst Du auch merken, warum Kuchengate der der erste Punkt war. Wir hören kurz in den zweiten rein.\n\nSpeaker 3: Find's eine gute Idee, nächstes Jahr\n\nSpeaker 5: einen offenen CFP zu haben, dass man da quasi noch mehr unterschiedliche Themen, unterschiedliche Leute, vielleicht auch Leute, die man noch nicht gesehen hat, hört, da freu ich mich drauf.\n\nSpeaker 1: So, wir merken uns Kuchengate und wir merken uns CFP und wir kommen zum dritten Feedback.\n\nSpeaker 6: Gestern sah ich das noch beim Anstehen fürs Essen, aber es wurd heute schon gefixt. Von daher, ja, würde ich sagen, passt.\n\nSpeaker 0: So, wir haben mich das ist ja wohl bekannt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, viele Grüße an Alex hier. Sowohl den Kuchen haben wir ja am zweiten Tag quasi noch gefixt oder zumindest Ah ja. Unseren Mittel nach versucht. Fixen wollen. Fixen wollen, wie auch immer und das mit dem CFP haben wir quasi auch schon für die nächste Iteration mit erledigt.\n\nIhr könnt nämlich, wenn ihr unter CFP Punkt Programmierpunkt bar einmal klickt, schon euren Talkvorschlag fürs nächste Jahr einreichen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und die damit, ja, also für\n\nSpeaker 1: die für die nächste Ausgabe, korrekt, für die diesjährige nächste Ausgabe der Programmiercon Und damit bleibt uns nur noch ein Kommentar, den ich zwecks der Formulierung ganz passend fand.\n\nSpeaker 7: Also ich fand, allen in allem war's schon ziemlich perfekt. Fällt mir schwer was zu finden, ehrlich gesagt, also es war schon sehr gut. Vielleicht noch mal so paar Talks bisschen außerhalb von dem AI Thema, mehr Web, es war schon sehr viel AI, aber die Talks überall waren auch sehr gut, also schwierig, da irgendwie Abstriche zu machen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich dachte, das nehme ich mit fürn Dennis. Es war alles perfekt, zwar 'n bisschen viel AI, aber AI war auch gut. So, da da hast Du doch bestimmt was sozusagen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also erst einmal bei Michael, dass wir aufpassen müssen, dass es nicht, dass wir dass wir nicht zu euphorisch sind. Wobei man, also ich mein\n\nSpeaker 1: Also ehrlicherweise waren das die negativsten Beiträge, die wir vom Mikrofon gekriegt haben, so, ne?\n\nSpeaker 0: Das ist das ist gut und man muss ja auch sagen, also nee, man muss nicht sagen, sondern vielleicht kommen wir da auch noch zu, wenn wir unsere eigene Meinung sagen, aber ist natürlich was, also noch mal, selbst dabei war. Ich war sehr positiv überrascht von den, von der Konferenz. Es wird besser jetzt\n\nSpeaker 1: gerade Obwohl der eigenen Verteidigung war der Dennis überrascht\n\nSpeaker 0: Nein, und das lag\n\nSpeaker 1: und das\n\nSpeaker 0: lag und da, das ist jetzt ein Aspekt, für den wir nicht können. Das lag auch an den vielen coolen Gästen, die wir hatten und die haben eine zu 1 Atmosphäre beigetragen, zu einem Austausch beigetragen, zu einem, was wiederum natürlich alle gespürt haben, die da waren, dass es wirklich zu 1 coolen Konferenz geworden ist. Ist ja jetzt schon, oh Gott, Fazit, ganz am Anfang. Und dadurch fühlt es sich, glaube ich, einfach für uns so cool an und wir haben an nur einen Teil dafür bereitgestellt und ein ganz großer Teil, warum es cool war, waren dann all die Leute und die Gäste, die da waren und da hatten wir keinen direkten Einfluss drauf.\n\nSpeaker 2: Total.\n\nSpeaker 3: Deine Einordnung zu unseren Themenschwerpunkten? Hat\n\nSpeaker 1: er jetzt vergessen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Der Reminder. Kuchen? Themenschwerbogen meinst Du? Nein, ich weiß. AI.\n\nJa, also kann ich nachvollziehen und wir hatten tatsächlich, wir hatten Anfang der Woche eine Diskussion über die Programmierkunden 2026 und mein Take war eher, na ja, wir können wahrscheinlich noch mehr von den Technologien streichen, weil wer braucht noch, und damit mache ich mir jetzt nicht so viele Freunde vielleicht da draußen, aber wer braucht noch Technologie x y, wenn ich sowieso mit 'nem den Task umsetze und die Spezifika 1 besonderen, 1 speziellen Frameworks gar nicht mehr kennen muss. Jan, deine Bühne.\n\nSpeaker 1: Meine Bühne?\n\nSpeaker 0: Na ja, dagegen zu wettern.\n\nSpeaker 1: Was heißt denn, dagegen zu wettern? Ich finde es halt trotzdem wichtig, dass man so diese diese Grundlagen irgendwie mitnimmt und man muss ja auch am Ende verstehen, was da so deine AI hinzimmert. Aber Tim, also Tim, der grade das AI Feedback gegeben hat, wenn Du das jetzt hörst und irgendwann die Programmiercon 20 26 Agenda aufmachst und noch mehr AI findest, dann bitte direkt eine E-Mail an Dennis at Punkt on mir Punkt verpassen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Aber ich kann's vielleicht insofern bisschen nachvollziehen, sone thematische AI Fatigue, egal welches Konferenzprogramm oder auch nur Titel, Schwerpunktthema man sich angeschaut hat, war halt immer KI, war immer AI, 2025 noch irgendwas ohne AI zu machen, ging nicht. Und weiß ich nicht, das war vielleicht 2018 19, haben alle von Blockchain geredet und dass man dann sagt, ja, fühl ich jetzt nicht so oder wo ist dann jetzt euer USP, wenn ihr jetzt hauptsächlich über AR redet? Irgendwo kann ich nachvollziehen und gleichzeitig, wenn ich dann spezifisch ins Programm reinschaue und wen wir da hatten und worüber die geredet haben, dann denke ich, war das genau richtig.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also wir haben ja, und jetzt kommen wir vielleicht doch mal zu sonem negativen Punkt, den ich aber leider nicht auf der Turnspur hab, aber ich kann Ihnen ja so mal mitgeben. Wir haben ja schon versucht, Talks zu finden und Speakerinnen zu finden, die dieses AI Thema relativ, ich sag mal, Hype befreit irgendwie angehen, so, ja. Und das war ja auch irgendwie unser Briefing an die alle, wenn ihr was zu dem Thema machen wollt, dann bitte sehr pragmatisch und sehr und zeigt halt auch, wie das funktioniert. Und ich glaub, das haben wir auch irgendwie geschafft. Aber das hat halt auch dazu geführt, dass ganz viele von den Talks viele von den Basics halt wiederholt haben, so.\n\nAlso ich glaub, ich hab in den 2 Tagen die Definition von, was ist ein Agent und wie ist das Kontextbindung irgendwie aufgebaut, fünfmal gehört oder so, ja. Und das ist vielleicht das, wo wir nächstes Jahr 'n bisschen oder nächstes Mal ein bisschen besser ansetzen können, sagen, okay, wir wollen immer noch diesen pragmatischen Ansatz, aber wir können vielleicht von unserem Publikum schon mehr erwarten oder vermuten ihnen zumindest diese Eingangsdefinitionen und Erklärungen vielleicht in ein oder 2 Talks zu, aber geben halt mehr Speakerinnen noch mal mit, okay, ihr müsst nicht ganz bei 0 anfangen. Und dann ist vielleicht auch das AI Thema nicht ganz so, dann wirkt es nicht ganz so repetitiv. Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja. Ja, und ich denk, es hilft auch einfach zu wissen, so das Publikum ist ja da aus 'nem guten Grund, ja. Da ist ja schon eher eine low Bullshit Toleranz. Das ist jetzt ja keine Konferenz, wo dann Leute hingehen, zurück in ihre Organisation gehen zu können, zu sagen, hier, ich hab ganz viel mit AI gemacht und jetzt machen wir da eine Powerpoint Slide draus, sondern wie Du gesagt hast, Hype befreit, es ging teilweise tief in die Themen und dann, also ich find, das relativiert schon 'n guten Teil der Kritik.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Und man muss ja auch sagen, also wir haben ja auch alle Gäste darum gebeten, Feedback zu hinterlassen für die Talks und die, ich weiß nur, die ersten 2 oder ich glaub sogar, die ersten 3 platzierten Talks waren alles AI Talks. Also wir hatten einmal den Talk von Niko Martin über KIT im Browser, das war ja der überhaupt maximal bestgevotetste Talk mit 5 von 5 möglichen Sternen im Schnitt, also ja. Und dann hatten wir noch das Multi Agent und den Talk von Christian Weil, der war, glaube ich, auf Platz 3 oder so. Also, ja.\n\nWar zwar viel, aber war trotzdem scheinbar auch beliebt und wurde gewertschätzt.\n\nSpeaker 3: Kennt ihr diese Sequenz aus der Teufel trägt Prada? Ist ja mittlerweile so, also mieben, so. Ground\n\nSpeaker 1: Breaking.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja. So so etwas sehr Offensichtliches, wo man dann sagt, ja, muss es das wirklich sein? Und son bisschen fühl ich fühl ich da schon auch. Aber das heißt nicht, dass mich trotzdem im Frühling schöne florale Muster tragen kann, wenn ich die dieses Bild mal dafür strapazieren kann. Also ich wär verwundert, wenn wir da dieses Jahr gänzlich andere Schwerpunkte setzten.\n\nSpeaker 0: Vanessa, dein größtes Feedbackpotenzial der Programmiercon?\n\nSpeaker 2: Zum Programm? Kann ich leider nicht so viel sagen als jemand, der entwicklungstechnisch nicht so beruflich aktiv ist.\n\nSpeaker 0: Genau, vom Rahmenprogramm oder von irgendwas. Was war uns so am schlechtesten?\n\nSpeaker 2: Am schlechtesten? Eine sehr große Herausforderung, die ich gesehen habe und das ist ein strukturelles Problem auch, ist, dass wir von 22 Speaker*innen 4 hatten, die Flinter Personen sind und das ist schön, dass wir die noch gewinnen konnten, weil lange Zeit in der Vorbereitung habe ich mich gefragt, ob wir überhaupt jemand Nichtmännlichen auf der Bühne stehen haben würden. Trotzdem sind das bei 22 Speaker*innen 18 Prozent nicht männliche Personen und ja ich finde das ein bisschen schade und das ist natürlich auch Also ich bin mir sicher, dass wir da noch besser werden können und dass wir da vielleicht noch Netzwerke aktivieren können wie Women in Tech, die Flatterist, das hatten wir glaube ich angefragt. Wir hatten, ah ich weiß nicht, vielleicht gibt's noch weitere FEMDEVs Meet-up oder was auch immer, wen man so ja kontaktieren kann, da eben noch mehr weibliche Personen auf die Bühne zu bringen, aber da ist es auf jeden Fall ein großes Potenzial, was wir uns mitnehmen können. Und vielleicht können wir auch grade hier die Chance noch nutzen, einmal den Aufruf zu starten.\n\nDas wolltest Du grade. Ja. Wenn ihr eine Person kennt, liebe Hörer*innen, die mal auf 1 Web- oder AI Konferenz sprechen möchte oder selbst jemand seid, der was zu erzählen hat und seid da gerne mutig. Das gehört ein bisschen dazu, dann kommt sehr gerne auf uns zu und auch ansonsten würde mich weiterer Input zu dem Thema interessieren. Schreibt uns gerne, wenn ihr weiterhin Ideen habt, wie wir diesem strukturellen Problem begegnen können.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich würde noch eineinhalb Sätze ergänzen. Unbedingt. Ich glaube, man muss bei der Programmierbar nicht mutig sein, auf der Bühne zu stehen, weil wir, glaub ich, 'n sehr, wie wie sagt man, 'n sehr freundliches Publikum haben. Mhm. Also hab ich schon ganz andere Veranstaltungen erlebt, wo die Leute son bisschen in der Luft zerrissen werden davor oder danach.\n\nUnd zum anderen, und auch das haben wir letztes Jahr allen angeboten, allen potenziellen Speaker, wenn ihr was cooles zu erzählen habt, aber vielleicht noch nirgendswo auf der Bühne wart oder das noch nicht so oft gemacht habt oder so, dann könnt ihr euch trotzdem gerne melden und ihr könnt uns auch gerne sagen, dass das so ist und wir helfen euch auch gerne in der Vorbereitung, im Üben von dem Talk, in whatever, also daran sollt's nicht scheitern.\n\nSpeaker 2: Sehr schön.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Ich möchte auch das Catering trotzdem noch aufgreifen, weil's immer son Ding ist. Also, weil ich war auch in 'ner gewissen Weise damit unzufrieden. Ich zu meinen, habe ich's mit organisiert und son paar Dinge dann immer gesehen, wo ich so dachte, auf anderen Konferenzen, wo ich dachte, hey, das sind ja Sachen, die man easy fixen kann. Und dann war ich\n\nSpeaker 1: der letzte Worte.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und dann war ich, da war ich wirklich, na, nee, das nicht zu nicht zu ausdrücken. Ich war ein bisschen enttäuscht am am ersten Tag, weil wir mit dem Caterer extra abgesprochen haben, hey, wir sind 150 Leute mit einem Buffet und 1 Schlange. Wird wahrscheinlich 'n bisschen knapp, das zu machen. Also lass uns doch bitte das Buffet von 2 Seiten aufbauen, das klar strukturieren, dass es, ne, von beiden Seiten geht so. Ja, hat nicht funktioniert.\n\nWurde nicht in die Küche weitergegeben, die haben das ja falsch aufgerichtet, deswegen war's auch nicht spontan änderbar. Und auch die Mengen haben mich auch geärgert. Also ich finde auch gut, wenn man foodwaste vermeidet und nicht da in Unmengen ist, aber Das haben\n\nSpeaker 1: wir erfolgreich getan, wenn ich das mal vorsichtig.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, zum Aber ist es auch nicht so, dass es so sein sollte, dass Leute sich fragen, ob sie sich was nehmen können, weil's dann vielleicht für andere nicht reicht und besonders beim Kuchen Buffet ist das noch mal aufgeschlagen, wo einige leer ausgegangen sind und das ist auch was, was wir vermeiden sollten. Das hat mir nicht gefallen. Ja, die Qualität war okay, da hat war alles lecker, aber Mehr, paar organisierte Sachen und mehr Donuts.\n\nSpeaker 1: Mehr Donuts und mehr Pizza. Pizza wurde auch noch mal hart gefeiert abends, als wir noch mal, bumm, weiß nicht, 9 Uhr losgefahren waren,\n\nSpeaker 0: noch mal nach und stellt hart sonst holen. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Hat\n\nSpeaker 0: auch immer son bisschen, na ja, klar ist dann natürlich auch Also so was macht mir auch aus Orgasicht Spaß, wenn man so irgendwie kurzfristig noch irgendwas machen muss und dann hat das irgendwie erfolgreich, so ich, das hab ich Spaß dran, aber auch nicht schlecht, wenn man\n\nSpeaker 1: so meiden kann.\n\nSpeaker 0: Na ja. Jan, hast Du schon was gesagt zu dem Punkt? Ja, hast Du.\n\nSpeaker 1: Zu dem, was\n\nSpeaker 3: was schlecht lief.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, ja, ich glaub, es hat alles gesagt.\n\nSpeaker 3: Also was, glaub ich, Besucherinnen und Besucher gar nicht mehr so gemerkt haben, deswegen ist das so unter der Überschrift, was lief schlecht, weiß nicht, ob's so treffend ist, aber was ich mir wünsche und was definitiv dieses Jahr besser klappen wird, ist 'n bisschen mehr mit Pufferarbeiten, was kurzfristige Ausfälle angeht. Ich mein, wir hatten 2 Talks, die ausgefallen sind und einen davon konnten wir direkt nachbesetzen, also props an die Stelle noch mal an Garet, der während der Programmiercon 2 Talks gehalten hat und hinter den hinterm DJ Pult stand. Aber ich glaub, das das ist ganz offensichtlich, dass dass wir da mit 'n bisschen mehr Puffer planen können und nicht nur die Besucherinnen und Besucher davon nix mitbekommen, sondern wir auch ganz entspannt bleiben können, was das angeht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, Du hast, also auf der einen Seite hast Du vollkommen recht, inhaltlich muss das irgendwie gemacht werden, auf der anderen Seite tue ich mir immer son bisschen schwer, wenn ich 'n coolen Speaker hab und 'n Talk oder so und dann zu ihm zu gehen und sagen so, hey, ist megageil. Könntest Du dich bitte hinten anstellen damit, falls irgendjemand nicht kommt, dann würden wir den gerne nehmen. Ansonsten hast Du's leider nicht in den Recall geschafft. Ah, ja. Haben wir\n\nSpeaker 3: doch genug intern hier an Kolleginnen und Kollegen, die wirklich Ahnung haben, die gut präsentieren können und die uns dann auch nicht böse sind, wenn wir das vielleicht dann aufm Meet-up 'n Monat später verschieben.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, so was muss man wahrscheinlich irgendwie mal versuchen. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Wie fandet ihr's von der Infrastruktur her? Also ich hab schon gespürt, dass es für eine Veranstaltung mit 150 Gäst*innen ganz gut war, so wie wir's gelöst haben. Also es waren, weiß nicht sagen wir das, 100 externe Gäste Ja. Und irgendwie paar 'n paaren 50 interne.\n\nUnd\n\nSpeaker 1: wir\n\nSpeaker 2: haben ja hier parallel gearbeitet. Es ist ja eigentlich macht Lotum ja Mobile Games und es gab ja oben im Studio immer noch Menschen, die hier zu ihrem normalen Job gekommen sind und viele Leute.\n\nSpeaker 1: Die das fairerweise nicht hätten müssen. Die hätten alle an der Konferenz teilnehmen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, haben auch einige.\n\nSpeaker 1: Die wollten liebe Arbeit.\n\nSpeaker 2: Haben ja auch einige. Aber trotzdem sind Teile davon eben mit Autos gekommen, sodass so was wie Parkplätze knapp wurden. Oder ich frag mich auch, wie wir, wenn wir planen sollten, die Veranstaltung zu vergrößern, wie wir das von den Sitzplätzen her machen. Habt ihr dazu Meinung?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, den. Ich mein, das diese Parkplatzum hat uns übrigens niemand angekreidet, dass wir auf der Webseite aufm Parkplatz verwiesen haben, der dann irgendwie geschlossen war. Das hat offensichtlich auch niemanden mehr gestört. Aber ja, das sind so Themen, die wir noch\n\nSpeaker 3: schauen müssen. Schreiben wir uns. Wenn irgendjemand doch 'n Strafzettel bekommen hat, dann\n\nSpeaker 1: ich wir verlosen ein T-Shirt. Bei Strafzettelbeschwerden ebenfalls an Dennis. Ich überweis\n\nSpeaker 0: es einfach direkt auf deinem Spendes Konto. Ja, ist richtig, aber also erstens Parkplatzsituation, die Stadt Bad Norheim firmiert einige dieser Parkplätze bei der nächsten Con wird es möglich sein, da zu parken, wo wir jetzt gesagt haben.\n\nSpeaker 1: Dann seht ihr mal, was die Programmierer für den Hebel hat. Kaum hat die einmal Parkplätze gebraucht werden, die umgewidmet. Genau.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und ich bin grundsätzlich bei dir, also das war ja 'n großes Fragezeichen, ne. Ich mein, wir haben einen einen, wie nennt man das, deine Bühne, ja, in einen Bereich gemacht, der sonst eigentlich mehr oder wieder am Flur ist bei uns oben im Büro. Und das hat deutlich besser funktioniert, als ich dachte. Also ich hatte da 'n bisschen Bammel, was die Qualität irgendwie angeht und den Eindruck angeht so als professionelle Konferenz. Aber viele fanden das eigentlich sogar eher positiv, weil's son bisschen, ja, sone Integration war in den Räumen.\n\nAlso vorher Ich muss das gleich\n\nSpeaker 1: 'n bisschen relativieren, ne. Das, was bei uns im Flur ist, ist halt bei manch anderen Filmen schon die komplette Arbeitsfläche. Also wir haben halt auch einfach Platz in jeglicher Dimension.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, aber ja. Ich also vorher, als wir über Größen unsere diskutieren haben, habe ich vorher immer gesagt, Du, wir können einfach irgendwo anders hingehen, größer zu werden. Jetzt würde ich eher sagen, nee, dann bleiben wir lieber kleiner, hier zu sein, weil es für viele wirklich ein, also von dem Feedback, was kam, für viele war es eher ein Highlight, dass es hier in soner dann eher privaten Atmosphäre ist, als in irgendeiner Eventlocation und von daher auf deine Frage einzugehen, ich würde sagen, so 10, 20 kriegen wir im gleichen Setting noch ganz gut unter, sodass es jetzt nicht überfüllt anfühlt und deutlich mehr müssten wir dann überlegen. Man könnte, na, wo das Catering jetzt war, könnte man einen dritten Track machen, wenn man das wollte, das Catering anders zu legen. Also es gibt Möglichkeiten, aber ich glaube, wir werden jetzt nicht mit 300 Leuten in diesen Räumen eine Konferenz veranstalten.\n\nSpeaker 1: Nicht bevor wir nicht angebaut haben. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja. Also ich Deswegen kannst Du verstehen ja, teilweise sind wir da vielleicht dabei gewesen, die Kapazitätsgrenzen anzufühlen. Aber für mich hat sich das total schön angefühlt. Also ich mein, wir arbeiten hier regulär die anderen 51 Wochen im Jahr und haben hier enorm viel enorm viel Platz und das ist auch sehr cool. Aber dann das halt mit so viel Leben hier mal wahrzunehmen und die Fläche ganz anders zu nutzen und mit gar nicht mal so viel an Mietmobiliar und Technik das Ganze ausgestei kannst Du gerne noch mal relativieren, Dennis.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, ist\n\nSpeaker 1: schon richtig.\n\nSpeaker 3: Aber dass wir da schon mit wenigem zusätzlich enorm viel geschaffen haben, also mir hat das richtig Spaß gemacht und selbst wenn wir dann vielleicht mehr Parkplätze zur Verfügung hätten, ich ich ich war froh, dass dass es so voll war, wie's war.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, ich finde auch, das hat sich sehr gemeinschaftlich und familiär schon fast angefühlt, das war schön. Müssen dann Leute halt in den nächsten Ausgaben schauen, dass sie sich bemühen, früh ein Ticket zu bekommen, damit sie noch einen Platz bekommen?\n\nSpeaker 0: Also wir\n\nSpeaker 1: haben ja eine Umfrage gemacht am Ende der Programmierkunden, wer gerne wiederkommen wollen würde und wenn die alle wiederkommen, die tatsächlich angekreuzt haben, dass sie gerne wiederkommen würden, dann wird's eng, wenn der Dennis nur 10, 20 Extratickets neu in den Pool schmeißt, so.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ist doch gut. So, den nächsten Punkt halten wir knapp. Was lief generell gut?\n\nSpeaker 1: Da hab ich auch nur 1 Nippel mitgebracht.\n\nSpeaker 8: Natürlich das Dessert. Ah. Aber zusätzlich die Talks über LLMs, Agenten, wie man das auch alles selber aufsetzen kann, da praktische Insights zu finden und genau, einfach mal die praktische Anwendung zu sehen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Es war Dessert im Haus, Leute. Nicht nur gerüchteweise, sondern es gab wohl wirklich Menschen, die noch was davon abbekommen haben und anscheinend war's so gut.\n\nSpeaker 0: Die Referenz, ich hatte ja im Podcast versprochen, wenn wir ausverkauft sind, dann gibt es Dessert für die, die das im Vorfeld nicht bekommen haben, deswegen war das son kleiner Perk, der freigeschaltet wurde.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und das der Korrektheit dazu zu sagen, wir haben halt das Event, ich glaub, 48 Stunden vor Eröffnung ausverkauft.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Aber in unseren Köpfen war's auch eine Woche vorher bei Catering Bestellung ausverkauft.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber ja, wir waren sehr optimistisch und haben auf unser Publikum vertraut, dass\n\nSpeaker 0: Das hat funktioniert. Ja. Sonst hätten wir vielleicht gelogen die eine Person. Info von euch, Vanessa.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, die tolle Community wurde schon erwähnt. War trotzdem 1 meiner Highlights. Ich hatte das Gefühl, alle hatten Spaß, hatten eine gute Zeit, waren sehr offen, wirkten happy auf mich. Ich hab mich auch gerne mit den Leuten unterhalten. Ich fand's toll, dass wir 2 Programmtracks hatten, gerade im Vergleich zum Flatterday von 2024, aber ich glaube mein Highlight waren die Lightning Talks, weil die bei den Meetups ansonsten so lala ab und an mal und dann auch toll wahrgenommen werden, aber nicht Also das ist jetzt nicht der Standard Mhm.\n\nUnd die Lightning Talks, also dieses Format, wo Besucher*innen spontan ein über ein Thema ihrer Wahl sprechen können, Das wurde hier wirklich rege genutzt und das fand ich fantastisch.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Ich knüpf vielleicht daran an, also ich weiß gar nicht, haben wir noch sone Highlightfrage? Haben wir nicht, ne? Ach so. Die kommt direkt danach.\n\nStümpfe nicht dran. Michael, was darf ich generell, was\n\nSpeaker 3: darf ich generell gut? Also ich würd sagen, dass sehr spürbar war, dass ja, dass das eine Community ist und dass das nicht so austauschbar ist, was wir hier machen. Was ich grade schon gesagt habe, dass wir auch, ne, Sachen wie Technik und so selber koordiniert haben, dass auch, weiß ich nicht, hinter der Bar nicht irgend eine bezahlte Servicekraft stand, sondern eine Kollegin, die Sophie unter anderem.\n\nSpeaker 1: Fairerweise, also die wurde auch bezahlt für die Zeit, ja? Das ist nicht so viel Glück.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja, ja, worauf ich not für ist, es ist jetzt nicht eine angemietete Messehalle.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, ja, ich weiß nicht.\n\nSpeaker 3: Es, ja, ne, sondern in in jedes Detail wurden viele, viel Gedanken, viel Herzblut reingesteckt und ich glaub, das war wirklich sehr spürbar. Ich kann mich anschließen bei den Lightning Talks. Ich fand auch sehr cool, dass das das einzige war, was von dem zeitlichen Rahmen komplett eskaliert ist. Ansonsten war das nämlich vom Timeboxing, also war ich wirklich sehr beeindruckt, dass das 2 Tage mit sehr viel Disziplin von allen Beteiligten\n\nSpeaker 1: Bist Du, Du warst beeindruckt? Ich war einfach nur überrascht.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja, aber auch sonst, wie gesagt, das Rahmenprogramm Decoding Challenge war auf jeden Fall mit der Eigendynamik, die die auch hatte, sehr cool, dass das so gehjjackt wurde, vielleicht nicht ganz intendiert, aber auf jeden Fall für mich 'n besonderer Moment gewesen, ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Da hab ich eben gestockt, das wär jetzt, das wär bei meinem Highlight noch gekommen, aber das darfst Du ja trotzdem, darfst Du ja trotzdem schon nennen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Dann,\n\nSpeaker 0: was waren Highlights für Talks und Dinge?\n\nSpeaker 1: Talks und Dinge\n\nSpeaker 0: wahrscheinlich orientier mich nur an deine Frage.\n\nSpeaker 1: Du siehst es einfach, ich hätte irgendwas viel Lustiges da reinschreiben, sondern ich wusste, dass es uns einfach so ab ist, wenn auch Potenzial genügt. Wir jetzt\n\nSpeaker 2: uns ja fürs nächste Mal.\n\nSpeaker 1: Son Angriff irgendwie. Okay, was haben wir hier für Stimmen aus der Community? Die vielen Horrorgespräche, von wegen was man wie besser machen kann, sich einfach individuelle Tipps holen, das ist einfach superviel wert. Das haben wir. Wir haben außerdem was, was grade eben schon genannt wurde.\n\nSpeaker 9: Also komplette Konferenz, so das Ganze drum rum. Hat super funktioniert, coole Leute, coole Vorträge. Gestern Abend die die Coding Challenges und das zu sehr zu leicht heckbare System war auf jeden Fall sehr lustig.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das war auf jeden Fall lustig. Und wir haben noch 1 oder Dennis Spund auch die Stimme gleich wiedererkennt.\n\nSpeaker 6: Ich würd sagen, ich ich kann das nicht in in eine Sache zusammenfassen, aber es ist eher so die ganzen kleinen Details, wo man merkt, da ist viel Liebe reingegangen. Also allein das Abendprogramm, das das waren so viele Sachen, das ist so cool. Und sehr viele Details einfach, man merkt, da ist Herzblut reingegangen und das find ich richtig cool.\n\nSpeaker 1: Kann man doch so stehen lassen. Ja. Ich mein, ich geh noch mal\n\nSpeaker 3: 'n Schritt zurück, so. Wir waren ja vor 'nem Dreivierteljahr auf 'nem offsite. So, wir haben uns ja in son Märchenschloss eingeschlossen und 2 Tage lang überlegt, ja, programmierbar dies, das, wo lang.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und wenn der Michael sagt, wir haben uns in 'nem Märchenschloss eingeschlossen, haben wir das wirklich gemacht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, true. Ist Harry Potter 'n Märchen?\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja. Das das war, glaub ich, auch nur so ziemlich offiziell gefeamt, weil wir wollen ja keine, ja, eigene eigene Debatte, die wir hier gerne ausgeliehen können. Ein Schulschloss. Ein ein schönes Schloss hier in Mittelhessen. Und in dem Kontext ist ja auch die Entscheidung gefallen hier, okay, wie geht's weiter mit der Konferenzplanung und auch, wie wollen wir das thematisch aufstellen?\n\nUnd eine Metapher, die da sehr bemüht wurde, war der Tellerrand. Oh Gott. Den Blick über den Tellerrand. Das das war letztendlich, worauf wir gesetzt haben zu sagen, das macht ja irgendwie die programmierbar aus, deswegen hören die Leute unsere Podcasts, deswegen kommen sie auf unsere. Ja.\n\nUnd ich glaube, das, dieses Versprechen haben wir wirklich eingelöst. Das ist uns sehr gut gelungen. Sind wir jetzt die Konferenz gewesen, wenn Du spezifisch für das eine Framework State of the Art die neuesten Updates und Best Practices erfahren willst? Nein, aber das wollten wir auch überhaupt nicht sein. Deswegen diese Bandbreite an Themen und diesen Austausch, ich glaub, das das ist uns sehr gut gelungen.\n\nDas haben wir auch gesehen bei den Leuten, die gekommen sind. Ja, ich hab vorher ja mir, das ist son bisschen Krankheit als Recruiter, ich hab jeden Gast, jede Gästin vorher recherchiert, wo die arbeiten, was deren Job ist und da allein zu sehen, wie was das auch schon für eine Bandbreite ist, hat auch das wieder bekräftigt. Also sowohl, was auf der Bühne passiert ist, ne. Gut, da hatten wir auch gut Einfluss drauf natürlich. Ist uns gut gelungen, dass da eine große Bandbreite an Themen serviert wurde, aber auch die Menschen, die dann hier waren und entsprechend auch Hallway Track, was dort an Austausch möglich war, Fand ich sehr, sehr cool.\n\nEinfach jede Begegnung sehr nett und und spannend, ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Schön.\n\nSpeaker 2: Schön gesagt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Ja, also ich nehm vielleicht mal auch noch mal das ganze Abendprogramm, weil das für mich so die Kombination war aus erstens, also Julian hatte mit der Coding dem Programmiercontest eine ziemlich coole Challenge da gemacht und dass dann auch so viele aktiv waren, genauso wie in den Lightning Talks vorher und wo man das wirklich abmoderieren musste, so, dass es das noch weitergehen muss und dann irgendwie bis bis 11 noch echt echt 'n großer Teil irgendwie da waren. Das hat halt für mich auch noch mal das diese Stimmung einfach zusammengefasst. Dass viele einfach Bock darauf haben, auch am zweiten Tag eigentlich bis zum Ende der Konferenz irgendwie fast alle da waren und nicht irgendwie schon alle die ganze Zeit, ne, irgendwie losgelaufen sind und nur noch irgendwie in der Hyper Saal da war. Das das hat, ja, das noch mal so zusammengefasst.\n\nAlso es war, das waren sehr, sehr schöne Momente dabei.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, wer sich den Programmiercontest noch mal anschauen will, kann das auch auf Youtube machen. Der ist nämlich Teil von dem, wie heißt das so? After Event Movie.\n\nSpeaker 0: After Movie.\n\nSpeaker 1: After Movie, ja, ja.\n\nSpeaker 3: Da ist\n\nSpeaker 1: auch drin. Da sieht man Krischer hart am Verzweifeln.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr gut.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, Shoutout an Julian. Ich fand den Contest auch fantastisch. Ich konnte es zwar technisch wie gesagt oder fachlich nicht einordnen und was da so passiert, aber es schien den Leuten sehr viel Spaß zu machen. Ich fand's lustig, dass was für Bildchen da entstanden sind und ja, das war auch ohne Codingkenntnisse sehr unterhaltsam zu beobachten und ich fand es schön, dass dann danach auch die Stimmung viel gelöster war und ich hatte so das Gefühl, das hatte auch noch Einfluss darauf, wie die Leute dann zusammengekommen sind, noch getanzt haben, am Kicker waren, am Billardtisch und sich dann auch so bisschen durch das Buffet gesnackt haben, das war sehr schön.\n\nSpeaker 1: Vielleicht einmal zu erklären, was die Calling Challenge überhaupt war oder was da passiert ist. Für alle, die nicht dabei waren, das war sone Plighting Challenge. Wir hatten 3 Sitzplätze auf der Bühne aufgebaut, im Prinzip die Leute mit einem Laptop ausgestattet und 'nem sehr rudimentären Textfeld ohne viel und so was. Und da mussten sie kleine Calling Aufgaben lösen mit dem kleinen Handicap, dass sie nicht sehen, was quasi das Ergebnis ihres Codes ist, sondern dass nur alle anderen hinter ihnen auf der Leinwand sehen und das natürlich für viele, viele lustige Momente gesorgt hat und das Publikum natürlich hart versucht war, also auf der einen Seite natürlich nicht den Leuten zu helfen, aber trotzdem natürlich durch, ich sag mal, verschiedene Ausdrücke von Stimmungen zu sagen, ob das, was sie da gerade machen, gut oder schlecht funktioniert und so. Das war schon waschen lustig.\n\nAlso wir hatten das ja hier intern einmal 'n paar Wochen vorher getestet mit Dennis, Julian, ach, wer war 'n wer war noch da? Carlo war noch dabei, glaub ich. Und wer noch, als wir das intern? Lisa. Lisa war auch noch dabei, ja.\n\nUnd ich fand das phänomenal lustig. Also als wir das da getestet haben, hab ich gedacht, also das, da glaub ich dran. Das das wird 'n Erfolg. Und das war mit auch 1 meiner Highlights von den ganzen 2 Tagen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja, cool.\n\nSpeaker 1: Dann gerade\n\nSpeaker 2: Ihr hattet noch 3 Highlights gefragt. Ich hab hätte noch was.\n\nSpeaker 0: Hau raus, Vanessa. Du hast die Fragen wohl auch so gelesen, wie sie da\n\nSpeaker 2: stehen. So. Ich fand das fantastisch, auch wenns eben schon mal anklang, dass wir ein mehrtägiges Event gemacht haben, weil ich das Gefühl hatte, gerade im Vergleich zu dem Flatter Day, den wir davor hatten, dass es erlaubt hat, einfach noch viel tiefer in den Austausch zu gehen mit den anderen Leuten. Und das ist ja was, was ich so von diesen O-Tönen da rausgenommen hab, dass Leute das auch wirklich schätzen, dass man hier diesen fachlichen Austausch, diese Hallway Gespräche hat und am zweiten Tag ist man einfach von Natur aus glaube ich etwas gelöster und spricht auch vielleicht noch ein bisschen lockerer oder hat sich am ersten Tag einen Talk angehört von 1 Person, die sie die jemanden inspiriert hat und kann dann eben noch mal auf die Person zugehen, wenn man es am ersten Tag nicht geschafft hat und das hat mir sehr sehr große Freude bereitet. Und möchtet ihr dazu anknüpfen oder?\n\nSpeaker 1: Nur zu nur zu Raus machen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Zustimmt nicken, das hört man nicht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Muss festernicken, dass ich das Mikrofon mit wackel.\n\nSpeaker 0: Berächt hat sie.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und was mich auch, was ich Mindblowing finde ist, dass wir dieses Lothum Office hier zu einem sehr individuellen, sehr besonderen Konferenzort gewandelt haben. Wie gesagt, oben wurden weiterhin Mobile Games entwickelt von den Leuten, die ja vielleicht die Weiterbildung in dem Moment nicht genutzt haben und an ihrem in ihr Projekt vertieft waren oder was auch immer. Sie hatten die Möglichkeit dazu zu kommen. Aber ich bin immer wieder davon beeindruckt, was Lotum so auf die Beine stellt und wie wir es schaffen, hier ein Büro, das eigentlich zum produktiven Arbeiten genutzt wird, ja so zu verwandeln, dass sich hier 100 Leute, die von extern hier reinkommen, wohlfühlen und was dazulernen und irgendwie inspiriert werden und Sachen mitnehmen für ihren Arbeitsalltag und vielleicht dann auch irgendwas anders machen. Und ja, ich find's fantastisch, dass wir ja Teile der Saline halt nutzen konnten, hier Essen anzurichten, einen Mittagsessen Spot zu schaffen, 2 Tracks zu machen und wie gesagt, diesen Flur einfach in L-Form zu 1 Bühne gemacht haben.\n\nIch, also es ist einfach ein fantastischer Ort der Weiterbildung und des Austauschs gewesen und das finde ich, das finde ich mindblowing.\n\nSpeaker 1: Da hab ich eine lustige Ergänzung zu. Mich hat nämlich, ich glaube am, es war so zur Mittagspause am ersten Tag ein Teilnehmer angesprochen, gefragt, wo wir denn diese coole Eventlocation gemietet hätten, wer würde die vielleicht auch gerne mal in Anspruch nehmen wollen für eine Veranstaltung.\n\nSpeaker 2: Spannend.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das geht leider nicht. Nein. Die gehen wir nicht her.\n\nSpeaker 0: Auch für eine Abendveranstaltung, wenn wir da mit Sicherheit für einen Austausch\n\nSpeaker 1: Das klang wir ja so nach so 'ner Firmen in der Nähe.\n\nSpeaker 3: Für Weihnachtsfeiern sind wir jetzt vielleicht nicht zu haben, aber Nur\n\nSpeaker 1: für unsere eigenen. Nur für die eigenen, ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Aber ab und an andere Meetups haben wir ja bereits hier Ja,\n\nSpeaker 0: das machen wir gerne.\n\nSpeaker 1: Gerne und regelmäßig.\n\nSpeaker 0: Cool, dann ist glaube ich eine übliche Frage in diesem Format des Specials. Ja. Zumindest war noch nie in 'nem Konferenz Special am Start, glaube ich. Ich, und die Frage, die ich immer stelle, an dieser Stelle ist, für wen lohnt sich ein Besuch, in Klammern, eventuell nicht?\n\nSpeaker 1: Das haben wir natürlich auch, ich wollt grad sagen, einhundert Leute haben wir gefragt, ob das das richtig, das merkt wahrscheinlich keiner da draußen. Wir haben auch die Leute gefragt, für wen sie das empfehlen wollen würden und haben da auch ein paar O-Töne eingesammelt.\n\nSpeaker 4: Ich glaub, hier können eine ganz große Bandbreite von Leute herkommen. Ich glaub, für Anfänger ist unheimlich viel dabei, für absolute Profis ist viel dabei. Ich entwickel selbst seit über 25 Jahren. Ich hab viel mitgenommen, aber ich hab auch gesehen, dass es wirklich unglaublich viele Impulse gibt. Jeder Redner hat sich sehr viel Mühe gemacht, auch Anfänger gut abzuholen.\n\nAlso ich glaub, es ist für alle Stufen was dabei.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also alle Stufen am Start und?\n\nSpeaker 6: Jeder, der sich für Webentwicklung interessiert, AI Entwicklungen und generell auch einfach Lust hat, neue nette Menschen kennenzulernen, würd ich sagen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also alle Stufen und nette Menschen und Philipp hat das am Ende noch mal ganz schön auf einen Punkt gebracht. Allen allen Entwicklern in Deutschland auf jeden Fall, also Da hab ich nichts hinzuzufügen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Dann kommen wir eventuell doch an Kapazitätsgrenzen. Kann ich mir vorstellen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das ist, vielleicht ist das so wie sone Pilgerfahrt. Jeder Entwickler muss das halt einmal im Leben das gemacht haben. Die müssen ja nicht alle jedes Jahr herkommen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ui, ui.\n\nSpeaker 3: Noch mal im Kreis dieser Linie laufen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Wir wollten uns nicht zu viel loben, ne.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich, das war gar, es war gar nicht wertend gemeint.\n\nSpeaker 2: Nein, kam ganz neutral an. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Okay.\n\nSpeaker 3: Na ja, sorry, Du hast grade angesetzt. Nee, Du auch. Ich mein, so inhaltlich zu den Vorträgen, ne, könnt ihr auch gerne noch eure Einordnung zu geben, aber ich denk, das kann man sich auch vorher in der Agenda anschauen und so. Was vielleicht aber schwieriger zu transportieren ist, ist eben so alles drum herum. Und wenn ich überlege, gehe ich zu 'ner Konferenz oder nicht, dann stellt sich auch die Frage, so gehe ich da alleine hin?\n\nKann ich noch jemand anderes dafür begeistern? Und ich will jetzt gar nicht dazu aufrufen, alleine hierherzukommen, zum Programmierkorn. Es ist ja cool, nehmt Kolleginnen und Kollegen mit. Wir hatten, glaub ich, ein Unternehmen, die waren zu 12, zu 13 da. Das ist megacool.\n\nAber wenn ich eine Sache herausgreifen würde, für wen sich die Konferenz lohnt, ist für Leute, die alleine kommen. Also ich ich mein, es gibt auch sehr riesige große Konferenzen da draußen, die haben auch ihre Vorteile. Da sind dann 20 Tracks parallel und nein, wir hatten keinen Moon Boutiqueans im Abendprogramm eingeladen. Okay, aber ich glaube, es ist kaum auf 'ner Konferenz so einfach in Kontakt zu treten. Grade weil es so familiär ist, Du kannst jede Person anquatschen.\n\nAlso ich ich glaub, jede Person war da einfach so zugänglich, sicherlich auch irgendwie durch die Angebote, die wir hatten, ne, dass dass man da in verschiedenen Formen auch in Interaktion treten kann, je nachdem auch wie groß die eigene soziale Batterie gerade ausgestattet ist, ne. Da hat das hatten wir schon auch bewusst vorab ab berücksichtigt, dass wir da verschiedene Angebote haben und das ist, glaube ich, schon was, was ich herausstreichen kann. Ich meine, natürlich ist das jetzt durchaus bei, ist aus meiner Position hier zu sagen, wenn ich jetzt hier jeden Tag hier ein- und ausgehe, aber ich war durchaus auch auf Konferenzen, wo ich mich 'n bisschen lost gefühlt hab und so dachte, ja gut, was machst Du jetzt? Und die Menschen irgendwie sehr gruppiert und verschlossen waren. Und ich mein, ich kannte ja auch 80 Prozent der Leute, die hier waren, nicht.\n\nAber ich hatte so viele Momente, in denen ich das geändert hab und es war megaschön.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich würd son bisschen den Kontrapunkt dazu vielleicht setzen und sagen, wenn Du das Maximale aus der Programmierkunden mitnehmen willst, dann musst Du aber auch son bisschen vielleicht der Typ sein, der son bisschen ist, ja. Also wir haben jetzt von den Stimmen, die alle hier waren gehört, der Hallway Drag war super, das Abendprogramm war super, die Gespräche waren irgendwie alle cool, die Speaker waren zugänglich, aber davon profitierst Du halt schon auch nur, wenn Du das so bisschen proaktiv mitnimmst. Weißt Du, was ich mein?\n\nSpeaker 3: Also es ist eine intensive Erfahrung und ich glaub, dass das für Menschen, viele Menschen sehr anstrengend ist. Aber wenn Du überlegst, dir fällt so was vielleicht tendenziell schwer, aus der Position heraus. Betrachtend würde ich sagen, ist es verhältnismäßig Es ist hier\n\nSpeaker 1: noch einfacher, auf jeden Fall, aber ich glaube schon, dass man das, dass man diesen diesen Schritt irgendwie son bisschen machen sollte, halt hier wirklich aus dem Vollen schöpfen zu können. Heißt das nicht, ne, wie Du gesagt hast, in manch anderen Veranstaltungen, die son bisschen mehr verschulter sind, wo halt viel Frontalunterricht ist und 90 Prozent des Wertes ergibt sich irgendwie aus den Sessions oder so was, das ist es ja hier genau nicht. So, und da muss man auch Spaß dran haben können wollen. Ja,\n\nSpeaker 0: Spaß dran haben von mir aus, aber man muss es nicht können in dem Sinne. Ich glaube, da bin ich eher bei Michael, ich glaube, das ist halt tatsächlich vor der Atmosphäre und es hat mich auch also sehr positiv überrascht, aber dass überall eigentlich immer kleine Grüppchen am Reden waren und ich selten das Gefühl hatte, da sind irgendwie Leute ausgegrenzt, die jetzt nicht gerade in der Interaktion sind. Also da war so waren halt sehr sehr viele da, die das gut können und im Zweifel glaube ich auch noch Leute mitgenommen haben, die die für die denen es ein bisschen schwerer fällt. Und von daher ja schon eine sehr\n\nSpeaker 1: inklusive Crowd.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja ich wollte, ja okay, inklusive Crowd.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich glaube auch, dass wir als programmierbar Crew ganz gut darin sind, auf solche Leute zuzugehen, die vielleicht gerade 'n bisschen alleine rumstehen. Aber ansonsten lohnt es sich vielleicht auch für alle Drinnies und Introvertierten da draußen, unserem Discord Server beizutreten, weil das wollen wir ja sicherlich im beim nächsten Mal 'n bisschen mehr noch nutzen und vielleicht, also selbst wenn man sich jetzt nicht traut, jemanden anzusprechen, kann man darüber trotzdem Leute finden, die auch da waren oder Kontakte knüpfen im Nachhinein und noch mal über Sachen schreiben, über die man sich vielleicht nicht traut zu sprechen. Völlig völlig fein.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, war lieber Punkt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und für wen lohnt es sich nicht zu kommen? Für Leute, die sich schon Die\n\nSpeaker 0: schon alles wissen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Zu gut auskennen, die können ja dann gerne was zu unserem Programm beitragen und vielleicht einen einen Call for Participation ausfüllen. Die URL war\n\nSpeaker 1: CFP Punkt Programmier Punkt bar.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ganz einfach.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja und vielleicht Leute, die keinen Bock auf Austausch haben, die müssen auch nicht kommen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Die haben wir auch nicht bis hierhin gehört, glaube ich.\n\nSpeaker 1: Okay. Ja das, weil als Dennis gerade sagte, das ist, das hat gar nicht so stattgefunden, was ich meinte, so dieses vielleicht 'n bisschen zu introvertiert sein, da ist halt auch son harter Selbst Selection Bias drin, ne. Ich glaub, wenn Du so die programmierbar hörst und weißt, was wir so für Leute sind und unsere Meetups kennst und keine Ahnung, dann hilft das, glaube ich, schon auch so in die richtige Stimmung zu kommen einfach dafür.\n\nSpeaker 0: Mhm. Ja. Ja. Judi, dann so, ist alles gesagt oder was? Genau, nee, ja fast.\n\nAlso wir sprachen ja jetzt seit von 2026. Wir wissen intern immer noch nicht genau das Datum, aber ihr könnt euch schon mal Kalenderwochen 46 bis 48 einfach mal generell blocken.\n\nSpeaker 1: Komplett. Pauschal.\n\nSpeaker 3: Darf ich mal keine 20 Tage?\n\nSpeaker 1: 20 Tagen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Schon ergreifen für Menschen, die keine Ahnung haben, wann Kalenderwoche 46 bis 48 ist? Siehst Du, da musst Du selber nachschauen. Aha. Ja, aber\n\nSpeaker 0: in dem Kalender ist das nun mal links davon einfach angezeigt, was Du\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich muss ich musste so lachen, weil Michael, mir ging es ganz lange auch so und ich hab auch bei ganz vielen Sachen bei den Kalenderwochen Mensch bekommen. Ja, und das ist so schlimm. Das das war so relativ früh in meinem Berufsleben, wo ich dachte, so, Leute, was redet ihr irgendwelche Zahlen? Es gibt Daten, die hat man schon sonst erfunden so, ja? Und niemand denkt in den Kalenderwochen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Achtundzwanzigster November. Das sind 2 Wochen. Welche 46 bis? Ach, 46.\n\nSpeaker 1: 9 46 inklusive bis 48. Ja, okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: 9 bis 28.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und wir werden das wahrscheinlich auch wieder mittwochs und donnerstags machen. Also ihr müsst euch nicht 3 komplette Wochen freihalten. Es reicht, wenn ihr euch dreimal mittwochs- und Donnerstags feiert.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und das, Michael, ist der zwölfte, dreizehnte, Neunzehnte und Zwanzigster und sechsundzwanzigste, siebenundzwanzigster November zweitausendsechshundertundzwanzig.\n\nSpeaker 3: Zehnter und Neunzehnte, nicht Neunzehnte und Zwanzigster.\n\nSpeaker 0: Natürlich.\n\nSpeaker 1: Vielleicht haltet ihr euch einfach doch die 3 Wochen von Ja. Bis die beiden Seiten.\n\nSpeaker 2: Oder ihr hört den Podcast oder folgt uns auf Social Media, da werden wir's noch mal kommunizieren.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Ja. Bald auch auf TikTok.\n\nSpeaker 1: Jetzt gibt's hier schon die ersten Spoiler und Teaser kommen hier schon krass. Wenn wir über Videos reden, können wir aber auch gleich sagen, dass die Videos von den Talks und den Speakerinnen von 20 25 dann auch zeitnah auf der Webseite erscheinen werden, vielleicht sogar schon, bis diese Folge veröffentlicht ist. Schauen wir mal, aber auf alle Fälle unter Programmier Punkt bar Slash Konferenzen. Einfach mal reinschauen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Sind wir schon in der Abmoderation?\n\nSpeaker 1: Noch nicht. Die Abmoderation ist, was Du draus machst.\n\nSpeaker 3: Was wäre eine Abmoderation ohne noch mal 'n Call for Action? Weil wir machen das Ganze, euch da draußen eine gute Zeit zu bescheren. Und deswegen, wenn ihr uns noch jetzt im Kommentarfeld keine Wünsche geschrieben habt, welche Themen und Speaker*innen wir für die Bühne in Kalenderwoche 46 bis 48, 2006 20 begeistern sollen, dann schreibt jetzt mal rein, weil wir können nichts versprechen, ja. Also nur wenn ihr jetzt da 'n ganz besonders großen Namen, eine Koryphäe reinschreibt, dann ist die jetzt vielleicht nicht als Headliner der Programmierkunden gesetzt, aber es hilft uns trotzdem. Und vielleicht versuchen wir es ja, die Person dann hier hinzugewinnen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das versuchen wir uns auf jeden Fall.\n\nSpeaker 1: Da merkt man, dass der Michael der Social Media Hase hier ist. Wie machen Hasen? Hoppel, hoppel. Nein, ich mein, weil Du sollst dir hier Call to Action und Ende und schreibt uns in die Kommentare und bla bla bla so.\n\nSpeaker 2: Folgt uns, bewertet uns, gibt uns 5 Sterne.\n\nSpeaker 1: Lasst 'n Like da, was auch immer.\n\nSpeaker 0: Folgt rein.\n\nSpeaker 1: Folgt rein, was?\n\nSpeaker 3: Also der Aufruf ist ja wohl wirklich nicht mehr notwendig. Das das ist das setze ich, das nehm ich als Gesetz.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Okay, letzte, berühmte letzte Worte, möchte jemand noch was? Ist für jemand, was noch nicht wo losgeworden bei diesen 4 fantastischen Fragen, die Jan vorbereitet? Nicht? Na gut, dann freuen wir uns sehr, ich freue mich sehr auf die Programmiercon 2026.\n\nAuch für ganz viele von euch sind wieder dabei. Wenn ihr nicht dabei wart und die Folge euch geholfen hat, ein bisschen das einzuordnen und vielleicht Lust gemacht hat, darauf auch zu kommen, dann würde uns natürlich sehr freuen. Sonst habt ihr eine gute Zeit und bis dahin. Michael, Vanessa, vielen, vielen Dank euch besonders, dass ihr beiden heute hier wart und euch die Zeit genommen habt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Danke euch.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und ihr habt beide sehr angenehme Podcaststimmen. Ich finde, man\n\nSpeaker 2: Dank ja eben so. Ich glaube,\n\nSpeaker 1: man ist auch schon,\n\nSpeaker 0: ihr wollt man Ja, ich kann irgendwie mehr draus ziehen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Immer gern.\n\nSpeaker 0: Lasst uns irgend 'n anderen Konkurrenzpodcast starten. Ja. Wenn der Inhalt nicht besser zu euch passt. Gut, das war's.\n\nSpeaker 1: So schön hier auf\n\nSpeaker 3: den letzten Sekunden.\n\nSpeaker 1: Tschau, tschau.\n\nSpeaker 0: Na ja, worüber können wir reden?\n\nSpeaker 3: Tschüs. Tschüs. Okay, das machen wir\n\nSpeaker 1: Tschüss.",[24570,24583,24596,24600,24606,24615,24618,24630,24634,24646,24652,24657,24670,24681,24685,24690,24697,24702,24714,24724,24730,24739,24743,24750,24754,24758,24762,24766,24772,24776,24780,24793,24805,24813,24818,24822,24826,24830,24834,24838,24846,24850,24857,24864,24868,24875,24879,24885,24893,24904,24908,24914,24918,24922,24926,24932,24936,24941,24946,24953,24957,24969,24973,24977,24982,24991,24999,25006,25010,25019,25023,25027,25031,25042,25045,25050,25054,25064,25071,25075,25079,25088,25097,25110,25119,25129,25141,25146,25153,25156,25167,25171,25177,25183,25196,25208,25218,25223,25227,25238,25242,25255,25264,25268,25277,25284,25289,25293,25298,25302,25311,25315,25319,25323,25332,25345,25350,25355,25366,25369,25372,25378,25385,25389,25393,25404,25415,25423,25431,25438,25445,25458,25462,25470,25483,25488,25500,25504,25508,25513,25520,25524,25528,25536,25540,25548,25555,25559,25563,25568,25572,25581,25594,25598,25609,25615,25624,25630,25634,25638,25649,25655,25659,25664,25667,25671,25675,25679,25685,25689,25701,25709,25715,25724,25731,25739,25743,25749,25760,25771,25784,25797,25801,25805,25809,25821,25825,25833,25837,25841,25845,25851,25854,25865,25878,25889,25899,25903,25907,25913,25919,25930,25934,25938,25942,25946,25959,25963,25969,25972,25979,25983,25987,25991,25997,26001,26005,26009,26018,26025,26038,26042,26046,26050,26056,26062,26070,26074,26078,26082,26086,26091,26094,26106,26118,26131,26144,26148,26157,26165,26174,26184,26188,26192,26201,26205,26211,26215,26221,26225,26229,26233,26237,26244,26253,26259,26263,26267,26271,26280,26284,26297,26307,26313,26317,26325,26329,26333,26336,26342,26346,26352,26363,26367,26373,26386,26390,26400,26404,26408,26412,26416,26422,26432,26442,26446,26452,26458,26462,26466,26470,26479,26483,26487,26491,26495,26501],{"sentences":24571,"speaker":141,"num_words":24582,"start":139,"end":575},[24572,24574,24576,24578,24580],{"text":24573,"start":139,"end":174},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu 1 neuen Programmierbar Folge.",{"text":24575,"start":179,"end":225},"Ich bin Dennis und heute gibt's noch ein kurzes Vorgeplänkel, es einzuordnen.",{"text":24577,"start":229,"end":290},"Und zwar ist die Programmierbar mehr als nur der Podcast, denn wir haben auch Konferenzen, die veranschalten.",{"text":24579,"start":295,"end":488},"Dieses Jahr findet wieder die Programmier Con 2026 statt mit dem Fokus auf AI und Web und wir haben uns letztes Jahr über diese Konferenz unterhalten und eine Podcastfolge dazu aufgenommen, die ihr gleich hier im Anschluss hört, wollen aber direkt jetzt schon drauf hinweisen, dass der Ticketverkauf jetzt startet.",{"text":24581,"start":493,"end":575},"Ab dem ersten Juni könnt ihr Tickets kaufen im Early Bird für 299 bis Ende des Monats und danach regulär für 349 Euro.",111,{"sentences":24584,"speaker":141,"num_words":24595,"start":579,"end":781},[24585,24587,24589,24591,24593],{"text":24586,"start":579,"end":630},"Und ja, jetzt 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er vorher Probleme Speakerin, die ausgefallen war, aber die Teilnehmer, die waren sehr diszipliniert.",{"text":1742,"start":3797,"end":3798},{"text":24733,"start":3801,"end":3805},31,{"sentences":24858,"speaker":141,"num_words":24863,"start":3808,"end":3879},[24859,24861],{"text":24860,"start":3808,"end":3827},"Judi, tja, wie steigen wir ein?",{"text":24862,"start":3830,"end":3879},"Wollen wir mal so anfangen mit so, hast Du, Du hast son Soundboard vorbereitet, glaube ich, an?",23,{"sentences":24865,"speaker":121,"num_words":13385,"start":3879,"end":3906},[24866],{"text":24867,"start":3879,"end":3906},"Ja, das mag ich schon Quick Time Soundboard.",{"sentences":24869,"speaker":141,"num_words":24874,"start":3910,"end":3961},[24870,24871,24872],{"text":1742,"start":3910,"end":3911},{"text":3919,"start":3916,"end":3917},{"text":24873,"start":3921,"end":3961},"Dann lass uns doch erst mal mit dem Dingen starten, die nicht so gut liefen.",17,{"sentences":24876,"speaker":121,"num_words":4446,"start":3961,"end":3973},[24877],{"text":24878,"start":3961,"end":3973},"Die nicht so gut liefen?",{"sentences":24880,"speaker":141,"num_words":15192,"start":3973,"end":3997},[24881,24883],{"text":24882,"start":3973,"end":3986},"Die nicht so gut liefen.",{"text":24884,"start":3986,"end":3997},"Was lief generell schlecht?",{"sentences":24886,"speaker":121,"num_words":24738,"start":4001,"end":4050},[24887,24889,24891,24892],{"text":24888,"start":4001,"end":4023},"Fangen wir mal mit dem guten Beispiel an.",{"text":24890,"start":4023,"end":4042},"Ich krieg nur eine Frage.",{"text":1742,"start":4045,"end":4046},{"text":3635,"start":4049,"end":4050},{"sentences":24894,"speaker":4053,"num_words":24903,"start":4050,"end":4160},[24895,24897,24899,24901],{"text":24896,"start":4050,"end":4065},"ist echt sensationell gut organisiert.",{"text":24898,"start":4069,"end":4087},"Es ist eine ganz tolle Location.",{"text":24900,"start":4091,"end":4124},"Das Team von euch ist supernett, jeder ist echt richtig, richtig freundlich.",{"text":24902,"start":4127,"end":4160},"Das Einzige ist, dass ich hab gestern keinen Kuchen mehr bekommen,",34,{"sentences":24905,"speaker":121,"num_words":4571,"start":4163,"end":4179},[24906],{"text":24907,"start":4163,"end":4179},"also das ist die, das ist",{"sentences":24909,"speaker":4053,"num_words":24874,"start":4179,"end":4231},[24910,24912],{"text":24911,"start":4179,"end":4206},"die einzige Geschichte, aber das Essen war ansonsten auch super.",{"text":24913,"start":4206,"end":4231},"Also ich sehe wirklich keine Verbesserungsmöglichkeiten, sorry.",{"sentences":24915,"speaker":1206,"num_words":24738,"start":4235,"end":4269},[24916],{"text":24917,"start":4235,"end":4269},"Ach so, also das wird jetzt die Folge, in der wir uns nicht selbst beobachten.",{"sentences":24919,"speaker":121,"num_words":24874,"start":4273,"end":4326},[24920],{"text":24921,"start":4273,"end":4326},"Ich ich hab hier ich hab ja einen Spannungsbogen, ja, den es nicht zu torpedieren gilt, so.",{"sentences":24923,"speaker":165,"num_words":15192,"start":4330,"end":4359},[24924],{"text":24925,"start":4330,"end":4359},"Aber Kuchengate hab ich mir auch als Allererstes aufgeschrieben.",{"sentences":24927,"speaker":121,"num_words":24645,"start":4362,"end":4420},[24928,24930],{"text":24929,"start":4362,"end":4401},"Kuchengate und gleich wirst Du auch merken, warum Kuchengate der der erste Punkt war.",{"text":24931,"start":4401,"end":4420},"Wir hören kurz in den zweiten rein.",{"sentences":24933,"speaker":1206,"num_words":4571,"start":4425,"end":4443},[24934],{"text":24935,"start":4425,"end":4443},"Find's eine gute Idee, nächstes Jahr",{"sentences":24937,"speaker":4446,"num_words":24940,"start":4443,"end":4524},[24938],{"text":24939,"start":4443,"end":4524},"einen offenen CFP zu haben, dass man da quasi noch mehr unterschiedliche Themen, unterschiedliche Leute, vielleicht auch Leute, die man noch nicht gesehen hat, hört, da freu ich mich drauf.",30,{"sentences":24942,"speaker":121,"num_words":24945,"start":4527,"end":4566},[24943],{"text":24944,"start":4527,"end":4566},"So, wir merken uns Kuchengate und wir merken uns CFP und wir kommen zum dritten Feedback.",16,{"sentences":24947,"speaker":4571,"num_words":24952,"start":4569,"end":4636},[24948,24950],{"text":24949,"start":4569,"end":4611},"Gestern sah ich das noch beim Anstehen fürs Essen, aber es wurd heute schon gefixt.",{"text":24951,"start":4615,"end":4636},"Von daher, ja, würde ich sagen, passt.",22,{"sentences":24954,"speaker":141,"num_words":15192,"start":4638,"end":4668},[24955],{"text":24956,"start":4638,"end":4668},"So, wir haben mich das ist ja wohl bekannt.",{"sentences":24958,"speaker":121,"num_words":24669,"start":4672,"end":4818},[24959,24961,24963,24965,24967],{"text":24960,"start":4672,"end":4692},"Ja, viele Grüße an Alex hier.",{"text":24962,"start":4696,"end":4738},"Sowohl den Kuchen haben wir ja am zweiten Tag quasi noch gefixt oder zumindest Ah ja.",{"text":24964,"start":4740,"end":4753},"Unseren Mittel nach versucht.",{"text":24966,"start":4753,"end":4762},"Fixen wollen.",{"text":24968,"start":4762,"end":4818},"Fixen wollen, wie auch immer und das mit dem CFP haben wir quasi auch schon für die nächste Iteration mit erledigt.",{"sentences":24970,"speaker":121,"num_words":24629,"start":4818,"end":4878},[24971],{"text":24972,"start":4818,"end":4878},"Ihr könnt nämlich, wenn ihr unter CFP Punkt Programmierpunkt bar einmal klickt, schon euren Talkvorschlag fürs nächste Jahr einreichen.",{"sentences":24974,"speaker":141,"num_words":4571,"start":4878,"end":4899},[24975],{"text":24976,"start":4878,"end":4899},"Und die damit, ja, also für",{"sentences":24978,"speaker":121,"num_words":24981,"start":4899,"end":4985},[24979],{"text":24980,"start":4899,"end":4985},"die für die nächste Ausgabe, korrekt, für die diesjährige nächste Ausgabe der Programmiercon Und damit bleibt uns nur noch ein Kommentar, den ich zwecks der Formulierung ganz passend fand.",29,{"sentences":24983,"speaker":4990,"num_words":24990,"start":4988,"end":5162},[24984,24986,24988],{"text":24985,"start":4988,"end":5019},"Also ich fand, allen in allem war's schon ziemlich perfekt.",{"text":24987,"start":5024,"end":5063},"Fällt mir schwer was zu finden, ehrlich gesagt, also es war schon sehr gut.",{"text":24989,"start":5066,"end":5162},"Vielleicht noch mal so paar Talks bisschen außerhalb von dem AI Thema, mehr Web, es war schon sehr viel AI, aber die Talks überall waren auch sehr gut, also schwierig, da irgendwie Abstriche zu machen.",59,{"sentences":24992,"speaker":121,"num_words":24856,"start":5165,"end":5247},[24993,24995,24997],{"text":24994,"start":5165,"end":5188},"Ich dachte, das nehme ich mit fürn Dennis.",{"text":24996,"start":5192,"end":5224},"Es war alles perfekt, zwar 'n bisschen viel AI, aber AI war auch gut.",{"text":24998,"start":5226,"end":5247},"So, da da hast Du doch bestimmt was sozusagen.",{"sentences":25000,"speaker":141,"num_words":25005,"start":5251,"end":5321},[25001,25003],{"text":25002,"start":5251,"end":5305},"Also erst einmal bei Michael, dass wir aufpassen müssen, dass es nicht, dass wir dass wir nicht zu euphorisch sind.",{"text":25004,"start":5305,"end":5321},"Wobei man, also ich mein",25,{"sentences":25007,"speaker":121,"num_words":24738,"start":5323,"end":5365},[25008],{"text":25009,"start":5323,"end":5365},"Also ehrlicherweise waren das die negativsten Beiträge, die wir vom Mikrofon gekriegt haben, so, ne?",{"sentences":25011,"speaker":141,"num_words":25018,"start":5365,"end":5501},[25012,25014,25016],{"text":25013,"start":5365,"end":5462},"Das ist das ist gut und man muss ja auch sagen, also nee, man muss nicht sagen, sondern vielleicht kommen wir da auch noch zu, wenn wir unsere eigene Meinung sagen, aber ist natürlich was, also noch mal, selbst dabei war.",{"text":25015,"start":5462,"end":5489},"Ich war sehr positiv überrascht von den, von der Konferenz.",{"text":25017,"start":5492,"end":5501},"Es wird besser jetzt",55,{"sentences":25020,"speaker":121,"num_words":15192,"start":5501,"end":5531},[25021],{"text":25022,"start":5501,"end":5531},"gerade Obwohl der eigenen Verteidigung war der Dennis überrascht",{"sentences":25024,"speaker":141,"num_words":4053,"start":5535,"end":5547},[25025],{"text":25026,"start":5535,"end":5547},"Nein, und das lag",{"sentences":25028,"speaker":121,"num_words":165,"start":5550,"end":5554},[25029],{"text":25030,"start":5550,"end":5554},"und das",{"sentences":25032,"speaker":141,"num_words":25041,"start":5554,"end":5861},[25033,25035,25037,25039],{"text":25034,"start":5554,"end":5588},"lag und da, das ist jetzt ein Aspekt, für den wir nicht können.",{"text":25036,"start":5588,"end":5701},"Das lag auch an den vielen coolen Gästen, die wir hatten und die haben eine zu 1 Atmosphäre beigetragen, zu einem Austausch beigetragen, zu einem, was wiederum natürlich alle gespürt haben, die da waren, dass es wirklich zu 1 coolen Konferenz geworden ist.",{"text":25038,"start":5701,"end":5734},"Ist ja jetzt schon, oh Gott, Fazit, ganz am Anfang.",{"text":25040,"start":5737,"end":5861},"Und dadurch fühlt es sich, glaube ich, einfach für uns so cool an und wir haben an nur einen Teil dafür bereitgestellt und ein ganz großer Teil, warum es cool war, waren dann all die Leute und die Gäste, die da waren und da hatten wir keinen direkten Einfluss drauf.",116,{"sentences":25043,"speaker":165,"num_words":121,"start":5864,"end":5865},[25044],{"text":5867,"start":5864,"end":5865},{"sentences":25046,"speaker":1206,"num_words":4571,"start":5869,"end":5888},[25047,25049],{"text":25048,"start":5869,"end":5884},"Deine Einordnung zu unseren Themenschwerpunkten?",{"text":5890,"start":5887,"end":5888},{"sentences":25051,"speaker":121,"num_words":1206,"start":5888,"end":5899},[25052],{"text":25053,"start":5888,"end":5899},"er jetzt vergessen.",{"sentences":25055,"speaker":141,"num_words":251,"start":5903,"end":5945},[25056,25058,25059,25061,25063],{"text":25057,"start":5903,"end":5910},"Der Reminder.",{"text":5917,"start":5914,"end":5915},{"text":25060,"start":5920,"end":5931},"Themenschwerbogen meinst Du?",{"text":25062,"start":5935,"end":5941},"Nein, ich weiß.",{"text":5947,"start":5941,"end":5945},{"sentences":25065,"speaker":141,"num_words":25070,"start":5949,"end":6199},[25066,25068],{"text":25067,"start":5949,"end":6191},"Ja, also kann ich nachvollziehen und wir hatten tatsächlich, wir hatten Anfang der Woche eine Diskussion über die Programmierkunden 2026 und mein Take war eher, na ja, wir können wahrscheinlich noch mehr von den Technologien streichen, weil wer braucht noch, und damit mache ich mir jetzt nicht so viele Freunde vielleicht da draußen, aber wer braucht noch Technologie x y, wenn ich sowieso mit 'nem den Task umsetze und die Spezifika 1 besonderen, 1 speziellen Frameworks gar nicht mehr kennen muss.",{"text":25069,"start":6191,"end":6199},"Jan, deine Bühne.",84,{"sentences":25072,"speaker":121,"num_words":165,"start":6203,"end":6207},[25073],{"text":25074,"start":6203,"end":6207},"Meine Bühne?",{"sentences":25076,"speaker":141,"num_words":4446,"start":6207,"end":6222},[25077],{"text":25078,"start":6207,"end":6222},"Na ja, dagegen zu wettern.",{"sentences":25080,"speaker":121,"num_words":25087,"start":6226,"end":6437},[25081,25083,25085],{"text":25082,"start":6226,"end":6242},"Was heißt denn, dagegen zu wettern?",{"text":25084,"start":6242,"end":6320},"Ich finde es halt trotzdem wichtig, dass man so diese diese Grundlagen irgendwie mitnimmt und man muss ja auch am Ende verstehen, was da so deine AI hinzimmert.",{"text":25086,"start":6324,"end":6437},"Aber Tim, also Tim, der grade das AI Feedback gegeben hat, wenn Du das jetzt hörst und irgendwann die Programmiercon 20 26 Agenda aufmachst und noch mehr AI findest, dann bitte direkt eine E-Mail an Dennis at Punkt on mir Punkt verpassen.",76,{"sentences":25089,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25096,"start":6441,"end":6751},[25090,25092,25094],{"text":25091,"start":6441,"end":6561},"Aber ich kann's vielleicht insofern bisschen nachvollziehen, sone thematische AI Fatigue, egal welches Konferenzprogramm oder auch nur Titel, Schwerpunktthema man sich angeschaut hat, war halt immer KI, war immer AI, 2025 noch irgendwas ohne AI zu machen, ging nicht.",{"text":25093,"start":6561,"end":6670},"Und weiß ich nicht, das war vielleicht 2018 19, haben alle von Blockchain geredet und dass man dann sagt, ja, fühl ich jetzt nicht so oder wo ist dann jetzt euer USP, wenn ihr jetzt hauptsächlich über AR redet?",{"text":25095,"start":6675,"end":6751},"Irgendwo kann ich nachvollziehen und gleichzeitig, wenn ich dann spezifisch ins Programm reinschaue und wen wir da hatten und worüber die geredet haben, dann denke ich, war das genau richtig.",108,{"sentences":25098,"speaker":121,"num_words":25109,"start":6751,"end":7077},[25099,25101,25103,25105,25107],{"text":25100,"start":6751,"end":6841},"Also wir haben ja, und jetzt kommen wir vielleicht doch mal zu sonem negativen Punkt, den ich aber leider nicht auf der Turnspur hab, aber ich kann Ihnen ja so mal mitgeben.",{"text":25102,"start":6845,"end":6918},"Wir haben ja schon versucht, Talks zu finden und Speakerinnen zu finden, die dieses AI Thema relativ, ich sag mal, Hype befreit irgendwie angehen, so, ja.",{"text":25104,"start":6918,"end":7000},"Und das war ja auch irgendwie unser Briefing an die alle, wenn ihr was zu dem Thema machen wollt, dann bitte sehr pragmatisch und sehr und zeigt halt auch, wie das funktioniert.",{"text":25106,"start":7000,"end":7023},"Und ich glaub, das haben wir auch irgendwie geschafft.",{"text":25108,"start":7026,"end":7077},"Aber das hat halt auch dazu geführt, dass ganz viele von den Talks viele von den Basics halt wiederholt haben, so.",120,{"sentences":25111,"speaker":121,"num_words":25041,"start":7077,"end":7382},[25112,25114,25116,25118],{"text":25113,"start":7077,"end":7152},"Also ich glaub, ich hab in den 2 Tagen die Definition von, was ist ein Agent und wie ist das Kontextbindung irgendwie aufgebaut, fünfmal gehört oder so, ja.",{"text":25115,"start":7155,"end":7334},"Und das ist vielleicht das, wo wir nächstes Jahr 'n bisschen oder nächstes Mal ein bisschen besser ansetzen können, sagen, okay, wir wollen immer noch diesen pragmatischen Ansatz, aber wir können vielleicht von unserem Publikum schon mehr erwarten oder vermuten ihnen zumindest diese Eingangsdefinitionen und Erklärungen vielleicht in ein oder 2 Talks zu, aber geben halt mehr Speakerinnen noch mal mit, okay, ihr müsst nicht ganz bei 0 anfangen.",{"text":25117,"start":7337,"end":7377},"Und dann ist vielleicht auch das AI Thema nicht ganz so, dann wirkt es nicht ganz so repetitiv.",{"text":1949,"start":7381,"end":7382},{"sentences":25120,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25128,"start":7385,"end":7636},[25121,25122,25124,25126],{"text":1742,"start":7385,"end":7386},{"text":25123,"start":7390,"end":7444},"Ja, und ich denk, es hilft auch einfach zu wissen, so das Publikum ist ja da aus 'nem guten Grund, ja.",{"text":25125,"start":7444,"end":7470},"Da ist ja schon eher eine low Bullshit Toleranz.",{"text":25127,"start":7470,"end":7636},"Das ist jetzt ja keine Konferenz, wo dann Leute hingehen, zurück in ihre Organisation gehen zu können, zu sagen, hier, ich hab ganz viel mit AI gemacht und jetzt machen wir da eine Powerpoint Slide draus, sondern wie Du gesagt hast, Hype befreit, es ging teilweise tief in die Themen und dann, also ich find, das relativiert schon 'n guten Teil der Kritik.",94,{"sentences":25130,"speaker":121,"num_words":25140,"start":7639,"end":7912},[25131,25132,25134,25136,25138],{"text":1742,"start":7639,"end":7640},{"text":25133,"start":7640,"end":7744},"Und man muss ja auch sagen, also wir haben ja auch alle Gäste darum gebeten, Feedback zu hinterlassen für die Talks und die, ich weiß nur, die ersten 2 oder ich glaub sogar, die ersten 3 platzierten Talks waren alles AI Talks.",{"text":25135,"start":7744,"end":7840},"Also wir hatten einmal den Talk von Niko Martin über KIT im Browser, das war ja der überhaupt maximal bestgevotetste Talk mit 5 von 5 möglichen Sternen im Schnitt, also ja.",{"text":25137,"start":7840,"end":7904},"Und dann hatten wir noch das Multi Agent und den Talk von Christian Weil, der war, glaube ich, auf Platz 3 oder so.",{"text":25139,"start":7904,"end":7912},"Also, ja.",99,{"sentences":25142,"speaker":121,"num_words":25145,"start":7915,"end":7945},[25143],{"text":25144,"start":7915,"end":7945},"War zwar viel, aber war trotzdem scheinbar auch beliebt und wurde gewertschätzt.",12,{"sentences":25147,"speaker":1206,"num_words":24874,"start":7949,"end":8005},[25148,25150,25152],{"text":25149,"start":7949,"end":7976},"Kennt ihr diese Sequenz aus der Teufel trägt Prada?",{"text":25151,"start":7979,"end":8000},"Ist ja mittlerweile so, also mieben, so.",{"text":8006,"start":8004,"end":8005},{"sentences":25154,"speaker":121,"num_words":121,"start":8005,"end":8009},[25155],{"text":8012,"start":8005,"end":8009},{"sentences":25157,"speaker":1206,"num_words":24713,"start":8014,"end":8181},[25158,25159,25161,25163,25165],{"text":1742,"start":8014,"end":8015},{"text":25160,"start":8015,"end":8054},"So so etwas sehr Offensichtliches, wo man dann sagt, ja, muss es das wirklich sein?",{"text":25162,"start":8054,"end":8078},"Und son bisschen fühl ich fühl ich da schon auch.",{"text":25164,"start":8078,"end":8143},"Aber das heißt nicht, dass mich trotzdem im Frühling schöne florale Muster tragen kann, wenn ich die dieses Bild mal dafür strapazieren kann.",{"text":25166,"start":8143,"end":8181},"Also ich wär verwundert, wenn wir da dieses Jahr gänzlich andere Schwerpunkte setzten.",{"sentences":25168,"speaker":141,"num_words":4571,"start":8184,"end":8203},[25169],{"text":25170,"start":8184,"end":8203},"Vanessa, dein größtes Feedbackpotenzial der Programmiercon?",{"sentences":25172,"speaker":165,"num_words":24701,"start":8207,"end":8257},[25173,25175],{"text":25174,"start":8207,"end":8211},"Zum Programm?",{"text":25176,"start":8215,"end":8257},"Kann ich leider nicht so viel sagen als jemand, der entwicklungstechnisch nicht so beruflich aktiv ist.",{"sentences":25178,"speaker":141,"num_words":25145,"start":8257,"end":8295},[25179,25181],{"text":25180,"start":8257,"end":8276},"Genau, vom Rahmenprogramm oder von irgendwas.",{"text":25182,"start":8276,"end":8295},"Was war uns so am schlechtesten?",{"sentences":25184,"speaker":165,"num_words":25195,"start":8298,"end":8806},[25185,25187,25189,25191,25193],{"text":25186,"start":8298,"end":8303},"Am schlechtesten?",{"text":25188,"start":8306,"end":8471},"Eine sehr große Herausforderung, die ich gesehen habe und das ist ein strukturelles Problem auch, ist, dass wir von 22 Speaker*innen 4 hatten, die Flinter Personen sind und das ist schön, dass wir die noch gewinnen konnten, weil lange Zeit in der Vorbereitung habe ich mich gefragt, ob wir überhaupt jemand Nichtmännlichen auf der Bühne stehen haben würden.",{"text":25190,"start":8474,"end":8632},"Trotzdem sind das bei 22 Speaker*innen 18 Prozent nicht männliche Personen und ja ich finde das ein bisschen schade und das ist natürlich auch Also ich bin mir sicher, dass wir da noch besser werden können und dass wir da vielleicht noch Netzwerke aktivieren können wie Women in Tech, die Flatterist, das hatten wir glaube ich angefragt.",{"text":25192,"start":8635,"end":8763},"Wir hatten, ah ich weiß nicht, vielleicht gibt's noch weitere FEMDEVs Meet-up oder was auch immer, wen man so ja kontaktieren kann, da eben noch mehr weibliche Personen auf die Bühne zu bringen, aber da ist es auf jeden Fall ein großes Potenzial, was wir uns mitnehmen können.",{"text":25194,"start":8765,"end":8806},"Und vielleicht können wir auch grade hier die Chance noch nutzen, einmal den Aufruf zu starten.",181,{"sentences":25197,"speaker":165,"num_words":25207,"start":8810,"end":9003},[25198,25200,25201,25203,25205],{"text":25199,"start":8810,"end":8819},"Das wolltest Du grade.",{"text":1742,"start":8819,"end":8823},{"text":25202,"start":8825,"end":8902},"Wenn ihr eine Person kennt, liebe Hörer*innen, die mal auf 1 Web- oder AI Konferenz sprechen möchte oder selbst jemand seid, der was zu erzählen hat und seid da gerne mutig.",{"text":25204,"start":8905,"end":8959},"Das gehört ein bisschen dazu, dann kommt sehr gerne auf uns zu und auch ansonsten würde mich weiterer Input zu dem Thema interessieren.",{"text":25206,"start":8964,"end":9003},"Schreibt uns gerne, wenn ihr weiterhin Ideen habt, wie wir diesem strukturellen Problem begegnen können.",74,{"sentences":25209,"speaker":121,"num_words":24990,"start":9003,"end":9166},[25210,25212,25213,25215,25216],{"text":25211,"start":9003,"end":9021},"Ich würde noch eineinhalb Sätze ergänzen.",{"text":9027,"start":9021,"end":9026},{"text":25214,"start":9026,"end":9105},"Ich glaube, man muss bei der Programmierbar nicht mutig sein, auf der Bühne zu stehen, weil wir, glaub ich, 'n sehr, wie wie sagt man, 'n sehr freundliches Publikum haben.",{"text":1949,"start":9108,"end":9109},{"text":25217,"start":9109,"end":9166},"Also hab ich schon ganz andere Veranstaltungen erlebt, wo die Leute son bisschen in der Luft zerrissen werden davor oder danach.",{"sentences":25219,"speaker":121,"num_words":25222,"start":9169,"end":9370},[25220],{"text":25221,"start":9169,"end":9370},"Und zum anderen, und auch das haben wir letztes Jahr allen angeboten, allen potenziellen Speaker, wenn ihr was cooles zu erzählen habt, aber vielleicht noch nirgendswo auf der Bühne wart oder das noch nicht so oft gemacht habt oder so, dann könnt ihr euch trotzdem gerne melden und ihr könnt uns auch gerne sagen, dass das so ist und wir helfen euch auch gerne in der Vorbereitung, im Üben von dem Talk, in whatever, also daran sollt's nicht scheitern.",79,{"sentences":25224,"speaker":165,"num_words":165,"start":9373,"end":9377},[25225],{"text":25226,"start":9373,"end":9377},"Sehr schön.",{"sentences":25228,"speaker":141,"num_words":24595,"start":9380,"end":9550},[25229,25230,25232,25234,25236],{"text":1742,"start":9380,"end":9381},{"text":25231,"start":9381,"end":9421},"Ich möchte auch das Catering trotzdem noch aufgreifen, weil's immer son Ding ist.",{"text":25233,"start":9423,"end":9452},"Also, weil ich war auch in 'ner gewissen Weise damit unzufrieden.",{"text":25235,"start":9455,"end":9541},"Ich zu meinen, habe ich's mit organisiert und son paar Dinge dann immer gesehen, wo ich so dachte, auf anderen Konferenzen, wo ich dachte, hey, das sind ja Sachen, die man easy fixen kann.",{"text":25237,"start":9541,"end":9550},"Und dann war ich",{"sentences":25239,"speaker":121,"num_words":1206,"start":9552,"end":9561},[25240],{"text":25241,"start":9552,"end":9561},"der letzte Worte.",{"sentences":25243,"speaker":141,"num_words":25254,"start":9564,"end":9772},[25244,25246,25248,25250,25252],{"text":25245,"start":9564,"end":9607},"Und dann war ich, da war ich wirklich, na, nee, das nicht zu nicht zu ausdrücken.",{"text":25247,"start":9607,"end":9683},"Ich war ein bisschen enttäuscht am am ersten Tag, weil wir mit dem Caterer extra abgesprochen haben, hey, wir sind 150 Leute mit einem Buffet und 1 Schlange.",{"text":25249,"start":9683,"end":9704},"Wird wahrscheinlich 'n bisschen knapp, das zu machen.",{"text":25251,"start":9704,"end":9763},"Also lass uns doch bitte das Buffet von 2 Seiten aufbauen, das klar strukturieren, dass es, ne, von beiden Seiten geht so.",{"text":25253,"start":9765,"end":9772},"Ja, hat nicht funktioniert.",78,{"sentences":25256,"speaker":141,"num_words":25263,"start":9772,"end":9895},[25257,25259,25261],{"text":25258,"start":9772,"end":9824},"Wurde nicht in die Küche weitergegeben, die haben das ja falsch aufgerichtet, deswegen war's auch nicht spontan änderbar.",{"text":25260,"start":9828,"end":9847},"Und auch die Mengen haben mich auch geärgert.",{"text":25262,"start":9847,"end":9895},"Also ich finde auch gut, wenn man foodwaste vermeidet und nicht da in Unmengen ist, aber Das haben",44,{"sentences":25265,"speaker":121,"num_words":13385,"start":9895,"end":9921},[25266],{"text":25267,"start":9895,"end":9921},"wir erfolgreich getan, wenn ich das mal vorsichtig.",{"sentences":25269,"speaker":141,"num_words":25276,"start":9925,"end":10139},[25270,25272,25274],{"text":25271,"start":9925,"end":10066},"Ja, zum Aber ist es auch nicht so, dass es so sein sollte, dass Leute sich fragen, ob sie sich was nehmen können, weil's dann vielleicht für andere nicht reicht und besonders beim Kuchen Buffet ist das noch mal aufgeschlagen, wo einige leer ausgegangen sind und das ist auch was, was wir vermeiden sollten.",{"text":25273,"start":10066,"end":10078},"Das hat mir nicht gefallen.",{"text":25275,"start":10081,"end":10139},"Ja, die Qualität war okay, da hat war alles lecker, aber Mehr, paar organisierte Sachen und mehr Donuts.",77,{"sentences":25278,"speaker":121,"num_words":25283,"start":10142,"end":10211},[25279,25281],{"text":25280,"start":10142,"end":10154},"Mehr Donuts und mehr Pizza.",{"text":25282,"start":10154,"end":10211},"Pizza wurde auch noch mal hart gefeiert abends, als wir noch mal, bumm, weiß nicht, 9 Uhr losgefahren waren,",24,{"sentences":25285,"speaker":141,"num_words":15192,"start":10211,"end":10242},[25286,25288],{"text":25287,"start":10211,"end":10238},"noch mal nach und stellt hart sonst holen.",{"text":1742,"start":10238,"end":10242},{"sentences":25290,"speaker":165,"num_words":165,"start":10242,"end":10250},[25291,25292],{"text":1742,"start":10242,"end":10245},{"text":5890,"start":10249,"end":10250},{"sentences":25294,"speaker":141,"num_words":25297,"start":10250,"end":10375},[25295],{"text":25296,"start":10250,"end":10375},"auch immer son bisschen, na ja, klar ist dann natürlich auch Also so was macht mir auch aus Orgasicht Spaß, wenn man so irgendwie kurzfristig noch irgendwas machen muss und dann hat das irgendwie erfolgreich, so ich, das hab ich Spaß dran, aber auch nicht schlecht, wenn man",48,{"sentences":25299,"speaker":121,"num_words":1206,"start":10375,"end":10384},[25300],{"text":25301,"start":10375,"end":10384},"so meiden kann.",{"sentences":25303,"speaker":141,"num_words":25310,"start":10386,"end":10422},[25304,25306,25308],{"text":25305,"start":10386,"end":10391},"Na ja.",{"text":25307,"start":10393,"end":10412},"Jan, hast Du schon was gesagt zu dem Punkt?",{"text":25309,"start":10415,"end":10422},"Ja, hast Du.",14,{"sentences":25312,"speaker":121,"num_words":1206,"start":10425,"end":10435},[25313],{"text":25314,"start":10425,"end":10435},"Zu dem, was",{"sentences":25316,"speaker":1206,"num_words":1206,"start":10435,"end":10442},[25317],{"text":25318,"start":10435,"end":10442},"was schlecht lief.",{"sentences":25320,"speaker":121,"num_words":13385,"start":10445,"end":10467},[25321],{"text":25322,"start":10445,"end":10467},"Ja, ja, ich glaub, es hat alles gesagt.",{"sentences":25324,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25331,"start":10470,"end":10825},[25325,25327,25329],{"text":25326,"start":10470,"end":10614},"Also was, glaub ich, Besucherinnen und Besucher gar nicht mehr so gemerkt haben, deswegen ist das so unter der Überschrift, was lief schlecht, weiß nicht, ob's so treffend ist, aber was ich mir wünsche und was definitiv dieses Jahr besser klappen wird, ist 'n bisschen mehr mit Pufferarbeiten, was kurzfristige Ausfälle angeht.",{"text":25328,"start":10614,"end":10726},"Ich mein, wir hatten 2 Talks, die ausgefallen sind und einen davon konnten wir direkt nachbesetzen, also props an die Stelle noch mal an Garet, der während der Programmiercon 2 Talks gehalten hat und hinter den hinterm DJ Pult stand.",{"text":25330,"start":10730,"end":10825},"Aber ich glaub, das das ist ganz offensichtlich, dass dass wir da mit 'n bisschen mehr Puffer planen können und nicht nur die Besucherinnen und Besucher davon nix mitbekommen, sondern wir auch ganz entspannt bleiben können, was das angeht.",131,{"sentences":25333,"speaker":121,"num_words":25344,"start":10825,"end":11046},[25334,25336,25338,25340,25342],{"text":25335,"start":10825,"end":10956},"Ja, Du hast, also auf der einen Seite hast Du vollkommen recht, inhaltlich muss das irgendwie gemacht werden, auf der anderen Seite tue ich mir immer son bisschen schwer, wenn ich 'n coolen Speaker hab und 'n Talk oder so und dann zu ihm zu gehen und sagen so, hey, ist megageil.",{"text":25337,"start":10961,"end":11005},"Könntest Du dich bitte hinten anstellen damit, falls irgendjemand nicht kommt, dann würden wir den gerne nehmen.",{"text":25339,"start":11009,"end":11031},"Ansonsten hast Du's leider nicht in den Recall geschafft.",{"text":25341,"start":11031,"end":11038},"Ah, ja.",{"text":25343,"start":11038,"end":11046},"Haben wir",82,{"sentences":25346,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25349,"start":11046,"end":11137},[25347],{"text":25348,"start":11046,"end":11137},"doch genug intern hier an Kolleginnen und Kollegen, die wirklich Ahnung haben, die gut präsentieren können und die uns dann auch nicht böse sind, wenn wir das vielleicht dann aufm Meet-up 'n Monat später verschieben.",35,{"sentences":25351,"speaker":121,"num_words":251,"start":11140,"end":11165},[25352,25354],{"text":25353,"start":11140,"end":11160},"Ja, so was muss man wahrscheinlich irgendwie mal versuchen.",{"text":1742,"start":11164,"end":11165},{"sentences":25356,"speaker":165,"num_words":25297,"start":11167,"end":11300},[25357,25358,25360,25362,25364],{"text":1742,"start":11167,"end":11168},{"text":25359,"start":11168,"end":11190},"Wie fandet ihr's von der Infrastruktur her?",{"text":25361,"start":11190,"end":11247},"Also ich hab schon gespürt, dass es für eine Veranstaltung mit 150 Gäst*innen ganz gut war, so wie wir's gelöst haben.",{"text":25363,"start":11247,"end":11279},"Also es waren, weiß nicht sagen wir das, 100 externe Gäste Ja.",{"text":25365,"start":11281,"end":11300},"Und irgendwie paar 'n paaren 50 interne.",{"sentences":25367,"speaker":165,"num_words":121,"start":11304,"end":11305},[25368],{"text":232,"start":11304,"end":11305},{"sentences":25370,"speaker":121,"num_words":121,"start":11305,"end":11307},[25371],{"text":272,"start":11305,"end":11307},{"sentences":25373,"speaker":165,"num_words":25349,"start":11307,"end":11402},[25374,25376],{"text":25375,"start":11307,"end":11322},"haben ja hier parallel gearbeitet.",{"text":25377,"start":11326,"end":11402},"Es ist ja eigentlich macht Lotum ja Mobile Games und es gab ja oben im Studio immer noch Menschen, die hier zu ihrem normalen Job gekommen sind und viele Leute.",{"sentences":25379,"speaker":121,"num_words":25384,"start":11402,"end":11439},[25380,25382],{"text":25381,"start":11402,"end":11420},"Die das fairerweise nicht hätten müssen.",{"text":25383,"start":11420,"end":11439},"Die hätten alle an der Konferenz teilnehmen.",13,{"sentences":25386,"speaker":165,"num_words":4053,"start":11442,"end":11451},[25387],{"text":25388,"start":11442,"end":11451},"Ja, haben auch einige.",{"sentences":25390,"speaker":121,"num_words":4053,"start":11451,"end":11466},[25391],{"text":25392,"start":11451,"end":11466},"Die wollten liebe Arbeit.",{"sentences":25394,"speaker":165,"num_words":25403,"start":11469,"end":11591},[25395,25397,25399,25401],{"text":25396,"start":11469,"end":11477},"Haben ja auch einige.",{"text":25398,"start":11477,"end":11520},"Aber trotzdem sind Teile davon eben mit Autos gekommen, sodass so was wie Parkplätze knapp wurden.",{"text":25400,"start":11520,"end":11579},"Oder ich frag mich auch, wie wir, wenn wir planen sollten, die Veranstaltung zu vergrößern, wie wir das von den Sitzplätzen her machen.",{"text":25402,"start":11582,"end":11591},"Habt ihr dazu Meinung?",47,{"sentences":25405,"speaker":121,"num_words":25414,"start":11595,"end":11711},[25406,25408,25410,25412],{"text":25407,"start":11595,"end":11601},"Ja, den.",{"text":25409,"start":11601,"end":11672},"Ich mein, das diese Parkplatzum hat uns übrigens niemand angekreidet, dass wir auf der Webseite aufm Parkplatz verwiesen haben, der dann irgendwie geschlossen war.",{"text":25411,"start":11674,"end":11690},"Das hat offensichtlich auch niemanden mehr gestört.",{"text":25413,"start":11690,"end":11711},"Aber ja, das sind so Themen, die wir noch",42,{"sentences":25416,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25384,"start":11711,"end":11747},[25417,25419,25421],{"text":25418,"start":11711,"end":11717},"schauen müssen.",{"text":25420,"start":11717,"end":11726},"Schreiben wir uns.",{"text":25422,"start":11726,"end":11747},"Wenn irgendjemand doch 'n Strafzettel bekommen hat, dann",{"sentences":25424,"speaker":121,"num_words":25145,"start":11747,"end":11786},[25425,25427,25429],{"text":25426,"start":11747,"end":11763},"ich wir verlosen ein T-Shirt.",{"text":25428,"start":11763,"end":11780},"Bei Strafzettelbeschwerden ebenfalls an Dennis.",{"text":25430,"start":11780,"end":11786},"Ich überweis",{"sentences":25432,"speaker":141,"num_words":25437,"start":11786,"end":11899},[25433,25435],{"text":25434,"start":11786,"end":11808},"es einfach direkt auf deinem Spendes Konto.",{"text":25436,"start":11811,"end":11899},"Ja, ist richtig, aber also erstens Parkplatzsituation, die Stadt Bad Norheim firmiert einige dieser Parkplätze bei der nächsten Con wird es möglich sein, da zu parken, wo wir jetzt gesagt haben.",38,{"sentences":25439,"speaker":121,"num_words":24645,"start":11899,"end":11960},[25440,25442,25444],{"text":25441,"start":11899,"end":11931},"Dann seht ihr mal, was die Programmierer für den Hebel hat.",{"text":25443,"start":11931,"end":11955},"Kaum hat die einmal Parkplätze gebraucht werden, die umgewidmet.",{"text":11962,"start":11959,"end":11960},{"sentences":25446,"speaker":141,"num_words":25457,"start":11964,"end":12204},[25447,25449,25451,25453,25455],{"text":25448,"start":11964,"end":11999},"Und ich bin grundsätzlich bei dir, also das war ja 'n großes Fragezeichen, ne.",{"text":25450,"start":11999,"end":12080},"Ich mein, wir haben einen einen, wie nennt man das, deine Bühne, ja, in einen Bereich gemacht, der sonst eigentlich mehr oder wieder am Flur ist bei uns oben im Büro.",{"text":25452,"start":12083,"end":12104},"Und das hat deutlich besser funktioniert, als ich dachte.",{"text":25454,"start":12104,"end":12156},"Also ich hatte da 'n bisschen Bammel, was die Qualität irgendwie angeht und den Eindruck angeht so als professionelle Konferenz.",{"text":25456,"start":12156,"end":12204},"Aber viele fanden das eigentlich sogar eher positiv, weil's son bisschen, ja, sone Integration war in den Räumen.",92,{"sentences":25459,"speaker":141,"num_words":4571,"start":12204,"end":12221},[25460],{"text":25461,"start":12204,"end":12221},"Also vorher Ich muss das gleich",{"sentences":25463,"speaker":121,"num_words":24856,"start":12221,"end":12307},[25464,25466,25468],{"text":25465,"start":12221,"end":12235},"'n bisschen relativieren, ne.",{"text":25467,"start":12235,"end":12279},"Das, was bei uns im Flur ist, ist halt bei manch anderen Filmen schon die komplette Arbeitsfläche.",{"text":25469,"start":12282,"end":12307},"Also wir haben halt auch einfach Platz in jeglicher Dimension.",{"sentences":25471,"speaker":141,"num_words":25482,"start":12310,"end":12714},[25472,25474,25476,25478,25480],{"text":25473,"start":12310,"end":12318},"Ja, aber ja.",{"text":25475,"start":12320,"end":12388},"Ich also vorher, als wir über Größen unsere diskutieren haben, habe ich vorher immer gesagt, Du, wir können einfach irgendwo anders hingehen, größer zu werden.",{"text":25477,"start":12388,"end":12603},"Jetzt würde ich eher sagen, nee, dann bleiben wir lieber kleiner, hier zu sein, weil es für viele wirklich ein, also von dem Feedback, was kam, für viele war es eher ein Highlight, dass es hier in soner dann eher privaten Atmosphäre ist, als in irgendeiner Eventlocation und von daher auf deine Frage einzugehen, ich würde sagen, so 10, 20 kriegen wir im gleichen Setting noch ganz gut unter, sodass es jetzt nicht überfüllt anfühlt und deutlich mehr müssten wir dann überlegen.",{"text":25479,"start":12603,"end":12661},"Man könnte, na, wo das Catering jetzt war, könnte man einen dritten Track machen, wenn man das wollte, das Catering anders zu legen.",{"text":25481,"start":12661,"end":12714},"Also es gibt Möglichkeiten, aber ich glaube, wir werden jetzt nicht mit 300 Leuten in diesen Räumen eine Konferenz veranstalten.",153,{"sentences":25484,"speaker":121,"num_words":4990,"start":12717,"end":12736},[25485,25487],{"text":25486,"start":12717,"end":12733},"Nicht bevor wir nicht angebaut haben.",{"text":1742,"start":12733,"end":12736},{"sentences":25489,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25499,"start":12736,"end":12978},[25490,25491,25493,25495,25497],{"text":1742,"start":12736,"end":12738},{"text":25492,"start":12738,"end":12784},"Also ich Deswegen kannst Du verstehen ja, teilweise sind wir da vielleicht dabei gewesen, die Kapazitätsgrenzen anzufühlen.",{"text":25494,"start":12788,"end":12808},"Aber für mich hat sich das total schön angefühlt.",{"text":25496,"start":12811,"end":12876},"Also ich mein, wir arbeiten hier regulär die anderen 51 Wochen im Jahr und haben hier enorm viel enorm viel Platz und das ist auch sehr cool.",{"text":25498,"start":12879,"end":12978},"Aber dann das halt mit so viel Leben hier mal wahrzunehmen und die Fläche ganz anders zu nutzen und mit gar nicht mal so viel an Mietmobiliar und Technik das Ganze ausgestei kannst Du gerne noch mal relativieren, Dennis.",93,{"sentences":25501,"speaker":141,"num_words":165,"start":12978,"end":12983},[25502],{"text":25503,"start":12978,"end":12983},"Ja, ist",{"sentences":25505,"speaker":121,"num_words":165,"start":12983,"end":12990},[25506],{"text":25507,"start":12983,"end":12990},"schon richtig.",{"sentences":25509,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25512,"start":12992,"end":13099},[25510],{"text":25511,"start":12992,"end":13099},"Aber dass wir da schon mit wenigem zusätzlich enorm viel geschaffen haben, also mir hat das richtig Spaß gemacht und selbst wenn wir dann vielleicht mehr Parkplätze zur Verfügung hätten, ich ich ich war froh, dass dass es so voll war, wie's war.",43,{"sentences":25514,"speaker":165,"num_words":25519,"start":13101,"end":13200},[25515,25517],{"text":25516,"start":13101,"end":13143},"Ja, ich finde auch, das hat sich sehr gemeinschaftlich und familiär schon fast angefühlt, das war schön.",{"text":25518,"start":13145,"end":13200},"Müssen dann Leute halt in den nächsten Ausgaben schauen, dass sie sich bemühen, früh ein Ticket zu bekommen, damit sie noch einen Platz bekommen?",41,{"sentences":25521,"speaker":141,"num_words":165,"start":13203,"end":13207},[25522],{"text":25523,"start":13203,"end":13207},"Also wir",{"sentences":25525,"speaker":121,"num_words":25263,"start":13207,"end":13323},[25526],{"text":25527,"start":13207,"end":13323},"haben ja eine Umfrage gemacht am Ende der Programmierkunden, wer gerne wiederkommen wollen würde und wenn die alle wiederkommen, die tatsächlich angekreuzt haben, dass sie gerne wiederkommen würden, dann wird's eng, wenn der Dennis nur 10, 20 Extratickets neu in den Pool schmeißt, so.",{"sentences":25529,"speaker":141,"num_words":25310,"start":13323,"end":13358},[25530,25532,25534],{"text":25531,"start":13323,"end":13331},"Ist doch gut.",{"text":25533,"start":13333,"end":13349},"So, den nächsten Punkt halten wir knapp.",{"text":25535,"start":13349,"end":13358},"Was lief generell gut?",{"sentences":25537,"speaker":121,"num_words":13385,"start":13358,"end":13380},[25538],{"text":25539,"start":13358,"end":13380},"Da hab ich auch nur 1 Nippel mitgebracht.",{"sentences":25541,"speaker":13385,"num_words":25547,"start":13383,"end":13476},[25542,25544,25545],{"text":25543,"start":13383,"end":13393},"Natürlich das Dessert.",{"text":13399,"start":13397,"end":13398},{"text":25546,"start":13398,"end":13476},"Aber zusätzlich die Talks über LLMs, Agenten, wie man das auch alles selber aufsetzen kann, da praktische Insights zu finden und genau, einfach mal die praktische Anwendung zu sehen.",33,{"sentences":25549,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25554,"start":13479,"end":13545},[25550,25552],{"text":25551,"start":13479,"end":13494},"Es war Dessert im Haus, Leute.",{"text":25553,"start":13496,"end":13545},"Nicht nur gerüchteweise, sondern es gab wohl wirklich Menschen, die noch was davon abbekommen haben und anscheinend war's so gut.",26,{"sentences":25556,"speaker":141,"num_words":24903,"start":13547,"end":13637},[25557],{"text":25558,"start":13547,"end":13637},"Die Referenz, ich hatte ja im Podcast versprochen, wenn wir ausverkauft sind, dann gibt es Dessert für die, die das im Vorfeld nicht bekommen haben, deswegen war das son kleiner Perk, der freigeschaltet wurde.",{"sentences":25560,"speaker":121,"num_words":24629,"start":13637,"end":13695},[25561],{"text":25562,"start":13637,"end":13695},"Und das der Korrektheit dazu zu sagen, wir haben halt das Event, ich glaub, 48 Stunden vor Eröffnung ausverkauft.",{"sentences":25564,"speaker":141,"num_words":25310,"start":13697,"end":13734},[25565,25566],{"text":1742,"start":13697,"end":13698},{"text":25567,"start":13701,"end":13734},"Aber in unseren Köpfen war's auch eine Woche vorher bei Catering Bestellung ausverkauft.",{"sentences":25569,"speaker":121,"num_words":25384,"start":13736,"end":13770},[25570],{"text":25571,"start":13736,"end":13770},"Aber ja, wir waren sehr optimistisch und haben auf unser Publikum vertraut, dass",{"sentences":25573,"speaker":141,"num_words":24945,"start":13772,"end":13819},[25574,25576,25577,25579],{"text":25575,"start":13772,"end":13779},"Das hat funktioniert.",{"text":1742,"start":13782,"end":13783},{"text":25578,"start":13783,"end":13805},"Sonst hätten wir vielleicht gelogen die eine Person.",{"text":25580,"start":13809,"end":13819},"Info von euch, Vanessa.",{"sentences":25582,"speaker":165,"num_words":25593,"start":13821,"end":14060},[25583,25585,25587,25589,25591],{"text":25584,"start":13821,"end":13838},"Ja, die tolle Community wurde schon erwähnt.",{"text":25586,"start":13842,"end":13854},"War trotzdem 1 meiner Highlights.",{"text":25588,"start":13854,"end":13900},"Ich hatte das Gefühl, alle hatten Spaß, hatten eine gute Zeit, waren sehr offen, wirkten happy auf mich.",{"text":25590,"start":13903,"end":13920},"Ich hab mich auch gerne mit den Leuten unterhalten.",{"text":25592,"start":13923,"end":14060},"Ich fand's toll, dass wir 2 Programmtracks hatten, gerade im Vergleich zum Flatterday von 2024, aber ich glaube mein Highlight waren die Lightning Talks, weil die bei den Meetups ansonsten so lala ab und an mal und dann auch toll wahrgenommen werden, aber nicht Also das ist jetzt nicht der Standard Mhm.",91,{"sentences":25595,"speaker":165,"num_words":24981,"start":14063,"end":14135},[25596],{"text":25597,"start":14063,"end":14135},"Und die Lightning Talks, also dieses Format, wo Besucher*innen spontan ein über ein Thema ihrer Wahl sprechen können, Das wurde hier wirklich rege genutzt und das fand ich fantastisch.",{"sentences":25599,"speaker":141,"num_words":25554,"start":14138,"end":14204},[25600,25601,25603,25605,25607],{"text":1742,"start":14138,"end":14139},{"text":25602,"start":14142,"end":14176},"Ich knüpf vielleicht daran an, also ich weiß gar nicht, haben wir noch sone Highlightfrage?",{"text":25604,"start":14180,"end":14188},"Haben wir nicht, ne?",{"text":25606,"start":14188,"end":14193},"Ach so.",{"text":25608,"start":14193,"end":14204},"Die kommt direkt danach.",{"sentences":25610,"speaker":141,"num_words":15192,"start":14207,"end":14230},[25611,25613],{"text":25612,"start":14207,"end":14214},"Stümpfe nicht dran.",{"text":25614,"start":14214,"end":14230},"Michael, was darf ich generell, was",{"sentences":25616,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25623,"start":14230,"end":14400},[25617,25619,25621],{"text":25618,"start":14230,"end":14240},"darf ich generell gut?",{"text":25620,"start":14242,"end":14302},"Also ich würd sagen, dass sehr spürbar war, dass ja, dass das eine Community ist und dass das nicht so austauschbar ist, was wir hier machen.",{"text":25622,"start":14304,"end":14400},"Was ich grade schon gesagt habe, dass wir auch, ne, Sachen wie Technik und so selber koordiniert haben, dass auch, weiß ich nicht, hinter der Bar nicht irgend eine bezahlte Servicekraft stand, sondern eine Kollegin, die Sophie unter anderem.",69,{"sentences":25625,"speaker":121,"num_words":24945,"start":14400,"end":14444},[25626,25628],{"text":25627,"start":14400,"end":14425},"Fairerweise, also die wurde auch bezahlt für die Zeit, ja?",{"text":25629,"start":14425,"end":14444},"Das ist nicht so viel Glück.",{"sentences":25631,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25310,"start":14448,"end":14485},[25632],{"text":25633,"start":14448,"end":14485},"Ja, ja, worauf ich not für ist, es ist jetzt nicht eine angemietete Messehalle.",{"sentences":25635,"speaker":121,"num_words":4446,"start":14489,"end":14500},[25636],{"text":25637,"start":14489,"end":14500},"Ja, ja, ich weiß nicht.",{"sentences":25639,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25648,"start":14500,"end":14687},[25640,25642,25644,25646],{"text":25641,"start":14500,"end":14564},"Es, ja, ne, sondern in in jedes Detail wurden viele, viel Gedanken, viel Herzblut reingesteckt und ich glaub, das war wirklich sehr spürbar.",{"text":25643,"start":14567,"end":14584},"Ich kann mich anschließen bei den Lightning Talks.",{"text":25645,"start":14584,"end":14628},"Ich fand auch sehr cool, dass das das einzige war, was von dem zeitlichen Rahmen komplett eskaliert ist.",{"text":25647,"start":14628,"end":14687},"Ansonsten war das nämlich vom Timeboxing, also war ich wirklich sehr beeindruckt, dass das 2 Tage mit sehr viel Disziplin von allen Beteiligten",72,{"sentences":25650,"speaker":121,"num_words":251,"start":14690,"end":14714},[25651,25653],{"text":25652,"start":14690,"end":14701},"Bist Du, Du warst beeindruckt?",{"text":25654,"start":14701,"end":14714},"Ich war einfach nur überrascht.",{"sentences":25656,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25512,"start":14717,"end":14834},[25657],{"text":25658,"start":14717,"end":14834},"Ja, aber auch sonst, wie gesagt, das Rahmenprogramm Decoding Challenge war auf jeden Fall mit der Eigendynamik, die die auch hatte, sehr cool, dass das so gehjjackt wurde, vielleicht nicht ganz intendiert, aber auf jeden Fall für mich 'n besonderer Moment gewesen, ja.",{"sentences":25660,"speaker":141,"num_words":25663,"start":14836,"end":14900},[25661],{"text":25662,"start":14836,"end":14900},"Da hab ich eben gestockt, das wär jetzt, das wär bei meinem Highlight noch gekommen, aber das darfst Du ja trotzdem, darfst Du ja trotzdem schon nennen.",27,{"sentences":25665,"speaker":165,"num_words":121,"start":14903,"end":14904},[25666],{"text":14906,"start":14903,"end":14904},{"sentences":25668,"speaker":141,"num_words":4990,"start":14908,"end":14926},[25669],{"text":25670,"start":14908,"end":14926},"was waren Highlights für Talks und Dinge?",{"sentences":25672,"speaker":121,"num_words":1206,"start":14929,"end":14935},[25673],{"text":25674,"start":14929,"end":14935},"Talks und Dinge",{"sentences":25676,"speaker":141,"num_words":4990,"start":14935,"end":14954},[25677],{"text":25678,"start":14935,"end":14954},"wahrscheinlich orientier mich nur an deine Frage.",{"sentences":25680,"speaker":121,"num_words":25663,"start":14956,"end":15036},[25681,25683],{"text":25682,"start":14956,"end":15028},"Du siehst es einfach, ich hätte irgendwas viel Lustiges da reinschreiben, sondern ich wusste, dass es uns einfach so ab ist, wenn auch Potenzial genügt.",{"text":25684,"start":15032,"end":15036},"Wir jetzt",{"sentences":25686,"speaker":165,"num_words":4446,"start":15036,"end":15050},[25687],{"text":25688,"start":15036,"end":15050},"uns ja fürs nächste Mal.",{"sentences":25690,"speaker":121,"num_words":25403,"start":15054,"end":15188},[25691,25693,25695,25697,25699],{"text":25692,"start":15054,"end":15067},"Son Angriff irgendwie.",{"text":25694,"start":15070,"end":15092},"Okay, was haben wir hier für Stimmen aus der Community?",{"text":25696,"start":15095,"end":15154},"Die vielen Horrorgespräche, von wegen was man wie besser machen kann, sich einfach individuelle Tipps holen, das ist einfach superviel wert.",{"text":25698,"start":15157,"end":15163},"Das haben wir.",{"text":25700,"start":15163,"end":15188},"Wir haben außerdem was, was grade eben schon genannt wurde.",{"sentences":25702,"speaker":15192,"num_words":25349,"start":15190,"end":15294},[25703,25705,25707],{"text":25704,"start":15190,"end":15212},"Also komplette Konferenz, so das Ganze drum rum.",{"text":25706,"start":15216,"end":15231},"Hat super funktioniert, coole Leute, coole Vorträge.",{"text":25708,"start":15234,"end":15294},"Gestern Abend die die Coding Challenges und das zu sehr zu leicht heckbare System war auf jeden Fall sehr lustig.",{"sentences":25710,"speaker":121,"num_words":24629,"start":15297,"end":15345},[25711,25713],{"text":25712,"start":15297,"end":15309},"Das war auf jeden Fall lustig.",{"text":25714,"start":15311,"end":15345},"Und wir haben noch 1 oder Dennis Spund auch die Stimme gleich wiedererkennt.",{"sentences":25716,"speaker":4571,"num_words":25723,"start":15349,"end":15500},[25717,25719,25721],{"text":25718,"start":15349,"end":15424},"Ich würd sagen, ich ich kann das nicht in in eine Sache zusammenfassen, aber es ist eher so die ganzen kleinen Details, wo man merkt, da ist viel Liebe reingegangen.",{"text":25720,"start":15424,"end":15459},"Also allein das Abendprogramm, das das waren so viele Sachen, das ist so cool.",{"text":25722,"start":15461,"end":15500},"Und sehr viele Details einfach, man merkt, da ist Herzblut reingegangen und das find ich richtig cool.",61,{"sentences":25725,"speaker":121,"num_words":25384,"start":15502,"end":15536},[25726,25728,25729],{"text":25727,"start":15502,"end":15514},"Kann man doch so stehen lassen.",{"text":1742,"start":15517,"end":15518},{"text":25730,"start":15522,"end":15536},"Ich mein, ich geh noch mal",{"sentences":25732,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25547,"start":15536,"end":15630},[25733,25735,25737],{"text":25734,"start":15536,"end":15550},"'n Schritt zurück, so.",{"text":25736,"start":15550,"end":15573},"Wir waren ja vor 'nem Dreivierteljahr auf 'nem offsite.",{"text":25738,"start":15577,"end":15630},"So, wir haben uns ja in son Märchenschloss eingeschlossen und 2 Tage lang überlegt, ja, programmierbar dies, das, wo lang.",{"sentences":25740,"speaker":121,"num_words":24874,"start":15630,"end":15671},[25741],{"text":25742,"start":15630,"end":15671},"Und wenn der Michael sagt, wir haben uns in 'nem Märchenschloss eingeschlossen, haben wir das wirklich gemacht.",{"sentences":25744,"speaker":141,"num_words":4990,"start":15675,"end":15697},[25745,25747],{"text":25746,"start":15675,"end":15681},"Ja, true.",{"text":25748,"start":15681,"end":15697},"Ist Harry Potter 'n Märchen?",{"sentences":25750,"speaker":1206,"num_words":24713,"start":15700,"end":15868},[25751,25752,25754,25756,25758],{"text":1742,"start":15700,"end":15701},{"text":25753,"start":15701,"end":15769},"Das das war, glaub ich, auch nur so ziemlich offiziell gefeamt, weil wir wollen ja keine, ja, eigene eigene Debatte, die wir hier gerne ausgeliehen können.",{"text":25755,"start":15769,"end":15775},"Ein Schulschloss.",{"text":25757,"start":15778,"end":15795},"Ein ein schönes Schloss hier in Mittelhessen.",{"text":25759,"start":15798,"end":15868},"Und in dem Kontext ist ja auch die Entscheidung gefallen hier, okay, wie geht's weiter mit der Konferenzplanung und auch, wie wollen wir das thematisch aufstellen?",{"sentences":25761,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25403,"start":15868,"end":15992},[25762,25764,25766,25768,25770],{"text":25763,"start":15868,"end":15898},"Und eine Metapher, die da sehr bemüht wurde, war der Tellerrand.",{"text":25765,"start":15901,"end":15904},"Oh Gott.",{"text":25767,"start":15907,"end":15920},"Den Blick über den Tellerrand.",{"text":25769,"start":15922,"end":15988},"Das das war letztendlich, worauf wir gesetzt haben zu sagen, das macht ja irgendwie die programmierbar aus, deswegen hören die Leute unsere Podcasts, deswegen kommen sie auf unsere.",{"text":1742,"start":15991,"end":15992},{"sentences":25772,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25783,"start":15995,"end":16171},[25773,25775,25777,25779,25781],{"text":25774,"start":15995,"end":16021},"Und ich glaube, das, dieses Versprechen haben wir wirklich eingelöst.",{"text":25776,"start":16021,"end":16036},"Das ist uns sehr gut gelungen.",{"text":25778,"start":16039,"end":16107},"Sind wir jetzt die Konferenz gewesen, wenn Du spezifisch für das eine Framework State of the Art die neuesten Updates und Best Practices erfahren willst?",{"text":25780,"start":16107,"end":16129},"Nein, aber das wollten wir auch überhaupt nicht sein.",{"text":25782,"start":16129,"end":16171},"Deswegen diese 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auch so viele aktiv waren, genauso wie in den Lightning Talks vorher und wo man das wirklich abmoderieren musste, so, dass es das noch weitergehen muss und dann irgendwie bis bis 11 noch echt echt 'n großer Teil irgendwie da waren.",{"text":25815,"start":16695,"end":16727},"Das hat halt für mich auch noch mal das diese Stimmung einfach zusammengefasst.",{"text":25817,"start":16727,"end":16829},"Dass viele einfach Bock darauf haben, auch am zweiten Tag eigentlich bis zum Ende der Konferenz irgendwie fast alle da waren und nicht irgendwie schon alle die ganze Zeit, ne, irgendwie losgelaufen sind und nur noch irgendwie in der Hyper Saal da war.",{"text":25819,"start":16831,"end":16849},"Das das hat, ja, das noch mal so zusammengefasst.",146,{"sentences":25822,"speaker":141,"num_words":251,"start":16851,"end":16876},[25823],{"text":25824,"start":16851,"end":16876},"Also es war, das waren sehr, sehr schöne Momente 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drin.",{"text":25850,"start":16983,"end":17003},"Da sieht man Krischer hart am Verzweifeln.",{"sentences":25852,"speaker":141,"num_words":165,"start":17007,"end":17011},[25853],{"text":24761,"start":17007,"end":17011},{"sentences":25855,"speaker":165,"num_words":25864,"start":17013,"end":17300},[25856,25858,25860,25862],{"text":25857,"start":17013,"end":17024},"Ja, Shoutout an Julian.",{"text":25859,"start":17024,"end":17040},"Ich fand den Contest auch fantastisch.",{"text":25861,"start":17042,"end":17105},"Ich konnte es zwar technisch wie gesagt oder fachlich nicht einordnen und was da so passiert, aber es schien den Leuten sehr viel Spaß zu machen.",{"text":25863,"start":17105,"end":17300},"Ich fand's lustig, dass was für Bildchen da entstanden sind und ja, das war auch ohne Codingkenntnisse sehr unterhaltsam zu beobachten und ich fand es schön, dass dann danach auch die Stimmung viel gelöster war und ich hatte so das Gefühl, das hatte auch noch Einfluss darauf, wie die Leute dann 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viele lustige Momente gesorgt hat und das Publikum natürlich hart versucht war, also auf der einen Seite natürlich nicht den Leuten zu helfen, aber trotzdem natürlich durch, ich sag mal, verschiedene Ausdrücke von Stimmungen zu sagen, ob das, was sie da gerade machen, gut oder schlecht funktioniert und so.",{"text":25876,"start":17661,"end":17673},"Das war schon waschen lustig.",145,{"sentences":25879,"speaker":121,"num_words":25263,"start":17676,"end":17797},[25880,25882,25884,25886,25887],{"text":25881,"start":17676,"end":17738},"Also wir hatten das ja hier intern einmal 'n paar Wochen vorher getestet mit Dennis, Julian, ach, wer war 'n wer war noch da?",{"text":25883,"start":17738,"end":17756},"Carlo war noch dabei, glaub ich.",{"text":25885,"start":17758,"end":17773},"Und wer noch, als wir das intern?",{"text":17782,"start":17778,"end":17779},{"text":25888,"start":17784,"end":17797},"Lisa war auch noch dabei, 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hat und am zweiten Tag ist man einfach von Natur aus glaube ich etwas gelöster und spricht auch vielleicht noch ein bisschen lockerer oder hat sich am ersten Tag einen Talk angehört von 1 Person, die sie die jemanden inspiriert hat und kann dann eben noch mal auf die Person zugehen, wenn man es am ersten Tag nicht geschafft hat und das hat mir sehr sehr große Freude bereitet.",{"text":25928,"start":18358,"end":18374},"Und möchtet ihr dazu anknüpfen oder?",156,{"sentences":25931,"speaker":121,"num_words":4571,"start":18374,"end":18393},[25932],{"text":25933,"start":18374,"end":18393},"Nur zu nur zu Raus machen.",{"sentences":25935,"speaker":165,"num_words":4571,"start":18397,"end":18414},[25936],{"text":25937,"start":18397,"end":18414},"Zustimmt nicken, das hört man nicht.",{"sentences":25939,"speaker":121,"num_words":13385,"start":18416,"end":18438},[25940],{"text":25941,"start":18416,"end":18438},"Muss festernicken, dass ich das Mikrofon mit wackel.",{"sentences":25943,"speaker":141,"num_words":1206,"start":18438,"end":18449},[25944],{"text":25945,"start":18438,"end":18449},"Berächt hat sie.",{"sentences":25947,"speaker":165,"num_words":25958,"start":18453,"end":18899},[25948,25950,25952,25954,25956],{"text":25949,"start":18453,"end":18524},"Und was mich auch, was ich Mindblowing finde ist, dass wir dieses Lothum Office hier zu einem sehr individuellen, sehr besonderen Konferenzort gewandelt haben.",{"text":25951,"start":18526,"end":18607},"Wie gesagt, oben wurden weiterhin Mobile Games entwickelt von den Leuten, die ja vielleicht die Weiterbildung in dem Moment nicht genutzt haben und an ihrem in ihr Projekt vertieft waren oder was auch immer.",{"text":25953,"start":18610,"end":18629},"Sie hatten die Möglichkeit dazu zu kommen.",{"text":25955,"start":18632,"end":18793},"Aber ich bin immer wieder davon beeindruckt, was Lotum so auf die Beine stellt und wie wir es schaffen, hier ein Büro, das eigentlich zum produktiven Arbeiten genutzt wird, ja so zu verwandeln, dass sich hier 100 Leute, die von extern hier reinkommen, wohlfühlen und was dazulernen und irgendwie inspiriert werden und Sachen mitnehmen für ihren Arbeitsalltag und vielleicht dann auch irgendwas anders machen.",{"text":25957,"start":18796,"end":18899},"Und ja, ich find's fantastisch, dass wir ja Teile der Saline halt nutzen konnten, hier Essen anzurichten, einen Mittagsessen Spot zu schaffen, 2 Tracks zu machen und wie gesagt, diesen Flur einfach in L-Form zu 1 Bühne gemacht haben.",168,{"sentences":25960,"speaker":165,"num_words":24952,"start":18899,"end":18952},[25961],{"text":25962,"start":18899,"end":18952},"Ich, also es ist einfach ein fantastischer Ort der Weiterbildung und des Austauschs gewesen und das finde ich, das finde ich mindblowing.",{"sentences":25964,"speaker":121,"num_words":25403,"start":18955,"end":19075},[25965,25967],{"text":25966,"start":18955,"end":18971},"Da hab ich eine lustige Ergänzung zu.",{"text":25968,"start":18971,"end":19075},"Mich hat nämlich, ich glaube am, es war so zur Mittagspause am ersten Tag ein Teilnehmer angesprochen, gefragt, wo wir denn diese coole Eventlocation gemietet hätten, wer würde die vielleicht auch gerne mal in Anspruch nehmen wollen für eine Veranstaltung.",{"sentences":25970,"speaker":165,"num_words":121,"start":19075,"end":19079},[25971],{"text":19081,"start":19075,"end":19079},{"sentences":25973,"speaker":121,"num_words":251,"start":19083,"end":19110},[25974,25976,25977],{"text":25975,"start":19083,"end":19092},"Das geht leider nicht.",{"text":19097,"start":19094,"end":19095},{"text":25978,"start":19099,"end":19110},"Die gehen wir nicht her.",{"sentences":25980,"speaker":141,"num_words":25145,"start":19114,"end":19146},[25981],{"text":25982,"start":19114,"end":19146},"Auch für eine Abendveranstaltung, wenn wir da mit Sicherheit für einen Austausch",{"sentences":25984,"speaker":121,"num_words":25145,"start":19148,"end":19183},[25985],{"text":25986,"start":19148,"end":19183},"Das klang wir ja so nach so 'ner Firmen in der Nähe.",{"sentences":25988,"speaker":1206,"num_words":24656,"start":19183,"end":19217},[25989],{"text":25990,"start":19183,"end":19217},"Für Weihnachtsfeiern sind wir jetzt vielleicht nicht zu haben, aber Nur",{"sentences":25992,"speaker":121,"num_words":13385,"start":19217,"end":19239},[25993,25995],{"text":25994,"start":19217,"end":19225},"für unsere eigenen.",{"text":25996,"start":19225,"end":19239},"Nur für die eigenen, ja.",{"sentences":25998,"speaker":165,"num_words":25145,"start":19239,"end":19267},[25999],{"text":26000,"start":19239,"end":19267},"Aber ab und an andere Meetups haben wir ja bereits hier Ja,",{"sentences":26002,"speaker":141,"num_words":4053,"start":19267,"end":19277},[26003],{"text":26004,"start":19267,"end":19277},"das machen wir gerne.",{"sentences":26006,"speaker":121,"num_words":1206,"start":19280,"end":19288},[26007],{"text":26008,"start":19280,"end":19288},"Gerne und regelmäßig.",{"sentences":26010,"speaker":141,"num_words":25297,"start":19291,"end":19425},[26011,26013,26014,26016],{"text":26012,"start":19291,"end":19324},"Cool, dann ist glaube ich eine übliche Frage in diesem Format des Specials.",{"text":1742,"start":19328,"end":19329},{"text":26015,"start":19333,"end":19364},"Zumindest war noch nie in 'nem Konferenz Special am Start, glaube ich.",{"text":26017,"start":19364,"end":19425},"Ich, und die Frage, die ich immer stelle, an dieser Stelle ist, für wen lohnt sich ein Besuch, in Klammern, eventuell nicht?",{"sentences":26019,"speaker":121,"num_words":26024,"start":19429,"end":19536},[26020,26022],{"text":26021,"start":19429,"end":19484},"Das haben wir natürlich auch, ich wollt grad sagen, einhundert Leute haben wir gefragt, ob das das richtig, das merkt wahrscheinlich keiner da draußen.",{"text":26023,"start":19487,"end":19536},"Wir haben auch die Leute gefragt, für wen sie das empfehlen wollen würden und haben da auch ein paar O-Töne eingesammelt.",45,{"sentences":26026,"speaker":4053,"num_words":26037,"start":19539,"end":19695},[26027,26029,26031,26033,26035],{"text":26028,"start":19539,"end":19565},"Ich glaub, hier können eine ganz große Bandbreite von Leute herkommen.",{"text":26030,"start":19568,"end":19605},"Ich glaub, für Anfänger ist unheimlich viel dabei, für absolute Profis ist viel dabei.",{"text":26032,"start":19605,"end":19622},"Ich entwickel selbst seit über 25 Jahren.",{"text":26034,"start":19625,"end":19663},"Ich hab viel mitgenommen, aber ich hab auch gesehen, dass es wirklich unglaublich viele Impulse gibt.",{"text":26036,"start":19663,"end":19695},"Jeder Redner hat sich sehr viel Mühe gemacht, auch Anfänger gut abzuholen.",60,{"sentences":26039,"speaker":4053,"num_words":251,"start":19698,"end":19721},[26040],{"text":26041,"start":19698,"end":19721},"Also ich glaub, es ist für alle Stufen was dabei.",{"sentences":26043,"speaker":121,"num_words":4571,"start":19723,"end":19736},[26044],{"text":26045,"start":19723,"end":19736},"Also alle Stufen am Start und?",{"sentences":26047,"speaker":4571,"num_words":24645,"start":19739,"end":19803},[26048],{"text":26049,"start":19739,"end":19803},"Jeder, der sich für Webentwicklung interessiert, AI Entwicklungen und generell auch einfach Lust hat, neue nette Menschen kennenzulernen, würd ich sagen.",{"sentences":26051,"speaker":121,"num_words":24903,"start":19805,"end":19891},[26052,26054],{"text":26053,"start":19805,"end":19850},"Also alle Stufen und nette Menschen und Philipp hat das am Ende noch mal ganz schön auf einen Punkt gebracht.",{"text":26055,"start":19854,"end":19891},"Allen allen Entwicklern in Deutschland auf jeden Fall, also Da hab ich nichts hinzuzufügen.",{"sentences":26057,"speaker":1206,"num_words":24656,"start":19894,"end":19921},[26058,26060],{"text":26059,"start":19894,"end":19909},"Dann kommen wir eventuell doch an Kapazitätsgrenzen.",{"text":26061,"start":19913,"end":19921},"Kann ich mir vorstellen.",{"sentences":26063,"speaker":121,"num_words":443,"start":19924,"end":19990},[26064,26066,26068],{"text":26065,"start":19924,"end":19944},"Das ist, vielleicht ist das so wie sone Pilgerfahrt.",{"text":26067,"start":19948,"end":19972},"Jeder Entwickler muss das halt einmal im Leben das gemacht haben.",{"text":26069,"start":19972,"end":19990},"Die müssen ja nicht alle jedes Jahr herkommen.",{"sentences":26071,"speaker":141,"num_words":165,"start":19994,"end":20000},[26072],{"text":26073,"start":19994,"end":20000},"Ui, ui.",{"sentences":26075,"speaker":1206,"num_words":4990,"start":20000,"end":20024},[26076],{"text":26077,"start":20000,"end":20024},"Noch mal im Kreis dieser Linie laufen.",{"sentences":26079,"speaker":165,"num_words":13385,"start":20027,"end":20045},[26080],{"text":26081,"start":20027,"end":20045},"Wir wollten uns nicht zu viel loben, ne.",{"sentences":26083,"speaker":121,"num_words":251,"start":20047,"end":20072},[26084],{"text":26085,"start":20047,"end":20072},"Ich, das war gar, es war gar nicht wertend gemeint.",{"sentences":26087,"speaker":165,"num_words":4571,"start":20075,"end":20088},[26088,26090],{"text":26089,"start":20075,"end":20086},"Nein, kam ganz neutral an.",{"text":1742,"start":20086,"end":20088},{"sentences":26092,"speaker":121,"num_words":121,"start":20090,"end":20091},[26093],{"text":20093,"start":20090,"end":20091},{"sentences":26095,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25254,"start":20095,"end":20295},[26096,26098,26100,26102,26104],{"text":26097,"start":20095,"end":20115},"Na ja, sorry, Du hast grade angesetzt.",{"text":26099,"start":20115,"end":20123},"Nee, Du auch.",{"text":26101,"start":20125,"end":20203},"Ich mein, so inhaltlich zu den Vorträgen, ne, könnt ihr auch gerne noch eure Einordnung zu geben, aber ich denk, das kann man sich auch vorher in der Agenda anschauen und so.",{"text":26103,"start":20205,"end":20237},"Was vielleicht aber schwieriger zu transportieren ist, ist eben so alles drum herum.",{"text":26105,"start":20240,"end":20295},"Und wenn ich überlege, gehe ich zu 'ner Konferenz oder nicht, dann stellt sich auch die Frage, so gehe ich da alleine hin?",{"sentences":26107,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25263,"start":20298,"end":20415},[26108,26110,26112,26114,26116],{"text":26109,"start":20298,"end":20314},"Kann ich noch jemand anderes dafür begeistern?",{"text":26111,"start":20317,"end":20349},"Und ich will jetzt gar nicht dazu aufrufen, alleine hierherzukommen, zum Programmierkorn.",{"text":26113,"start":20353,"end":20374},"Es ist ja cool, nehmt Kolleginnen und Kollegen mit.",{"text":26115,"start":20374,"end":20408},"Wir hatten, glaub ich, ein Unternehmen, die waren zu 12, zu 13 da.",{"text":26117,"start":20408,"end":20415},"Das ist megacool.",{"sentences":26119,"speaker":1206,"num_words":26130,"start":20418,"end":20616},[26120,26122,26124,26126,26128],{"text":26121,"start":20418,"end":20462},"Aber wenn ich eine Sache herausgreifen würde, für wen sich die Konferenz lohnt, ist für Leute, die alleine kommen.",{"text":26123,"start":20462,"end":20503},"Also ich ich mein, es gibt auch sehr riesige große Konferenzen da draußen, die haben auch ihre Vorteile.",{"text":26125,"start":20503,"end":20546},"Da sind dann 20 Tracks parallel und nein, wir hatten keinen Moon Boutiqueans im Abendprogramm eingeladen.",{"text":26127,"start":20549,"end":20589},"Okay, aber ich glaube, es ist kaum auf 'ner Konferenz so einfach in Kontakt zu treten.",{"text":26129,"start":20592,"end":20616},"Grade weil es so familiär ist, Du kannst jede Person anquatschen.",80,{"sentences":26132,"speaker":1206,"num_words":26143,"start":20620,"end":20989},[26133,26135,26137,26139,26141],{"text":26134,"start":20620,"end":20735},"Also ich ich glaub, jede Person war da einfach so zugänglich, sicherlich auch irgendwie durch die Angebote, die wir hatten, ne, dass dass man da in verschiedenen Formen auch in Interaktion treten kann, je nachdem auch wie groß die eigene soziale Batterie gerade ausgestattet ist, ne.",{"text":26136,"start":20735,"end":20808},"Da hat das hatten wir schon auch bewusst vorab ab berücksichtigt, dass wir da verschiedene Angebote haben und das ist, glaube ich, schon was, was ich herausstreichen kann.",{"text":26138,"start":20808,"end":20928},"Ich meine, natürlich ist das jetzt durchaus bei, ist aus meiner Position hier zu sagen, wenn ich jetzt hier jeden Tag hier ein- und ausgehe, aber ich war durchaus auch auf Konferenzen, wo ich mich 'n bisschen lost gefühlt hab und so dachte, ja gut, was machst Du jetzt?",{"text":26140,"start":20928,"end":20953},"Und die Menschen irgendwie sehr gruppiert und verschlossen waren.",{"text":26142,"start":20956,"end":20989},"Und ich mein, ich kannte ja auch 80 Prozent der Leute, die hier waren, nicht.",147,{"sentences":26145,"speaker":1206,"num_words":24945,"start":20991,"end":21029},[26146],{"text":26147,"start":20991,"end":21029},"Aber ich hatte so viele Momente, in denen ich das geändert hab und es war megaschön.",{"sentences":26149,"speaker":121,"num_words":26156,"start":21032,"end":21248},[26150,26152,26154],{"text":26151,"start":21032,"end":21120},"Ich würd son bisschen den Kontrapunkt dazu vielleicht setzen und sagen, wenn Du das Maximale aus der Programmierkunden mitnehmen willst, dann musst Du aber auch son bisschen vielleicht der Typ sein, der son bisschen ist, ja.",{"text":26153,"start":21120,"end":21233},"Also wir haben jetzt von den Stimmen, die alle hier waren gehört, der Hallway Drag war super, das Abendprogramm war super, die Gespräche waren irgendwie alle cool, die Speaker waren zugänglich, aber davon profitierst Du halt schon auch nur, wenn Du das so bisschen proaktiv mitnimmst.",{"text":26155,"start":21233,"end":21248},"Weißt Du, was ich mein?",87,{"sentences":26158,"speaker":1206,"num_words":25512,"start":21248,"end":21362},[26159,26161,26163],{"text":26160,"start":21248,"end":21294},"Also es ist eine intensive Erfahrung und ich glaub, dass das für Menschen, viele Menschen sehr anstrengend ist.",{"text":26162,"start":21294,"end":21334},"Aber wenn Du überlegst, dir fällt so was vielleicht tendenziell schwer, aus der Position heraus.",{"text":26164,"start":21338,"end":21362},"Betrachtend würde ich sagen, ist es verhältnismäßig Es ist hier",{"sentences":26166,"speaker":121,"num_words":26156,"start":21362,"end":21582},[26167,26169,26171,26173],{"text":26168,"start":21362,"end":21437},"noch einfacher, auf jeden Fall, aber ich glaube schon, dass man das, dass man diesen diesen Schritt irgendwie son bisschen machen sollte, halt hier wirklich aus dem Vollen schöpfen zu können.",{"text":26170,"start":21437,"end":21550},"Heißt das nicht, ne, wie Du gesagt hast, in manch anderen Veranstaltungen, die son bisschen mehr verschulter sind, wo halt viel Frontalunterricht ist und 90 Prozent des Wertes ergibt sich irgendwie aus den Sessions oder so was, das ist es ja hier genau nicht.",{"text":26172,"start":21553,"end":21579},"So, und da muss man auch Spaß dran haben können wollen.",{"text":1032,"start":21581,"end":21582},{"sentences":26175,"speaker":141,"num_words":24582,"start":21584,"end":21839},[26176,26178,26180,26182],{"text":26177,"start":21584,"end":21616},"Spaß dran haben von mir aus, aber man muss es nicht können in dem Sinne.",{"text":26179,"start":21616,"end":21743},"Ich glaube, da bin ich eher bei Michael, ich glaube, das ist halt tatsächlich vor der Atmosphäre und es hat mich auch also sehr positiv überrascht, aber dass überall eigentlich immer kleine Grüppchen am Reden waren und ich selten das Gefühl hatte, da sind irgendwie Leute ausgegrenzt, die jetzt nicht gerade in der Interaktion sind.",{"text":26181,"start":21743,"end":21820},"Also da war so waren halt sehr sehr viele da, die das gut können und im Zweifel glaube ich auch noch Leute mitgenommen haben, die die für die denen es ein bisschen schwerer fällt.",{"text":26183,"start":21824,"end":21839},"Und von daher ja schon eine sehr",{"sentences":26185,"speaker":121,"num_words":165,"start":21842,"end":21847},[26186],{"text":26187,"start":21842,"end":21847},"inklusive Crowd.",{"sentences":26189,"speaker":141,"num_words":4990,"start":21851,"end":21870},[26190],{"text":26191,"start":21851,"end":21870},"Ja ich wollte, ja okay, inklusive Crowd.",{"sentences":26193,"speaker":165,"num_words":26200,"start":21872,"end":22133},[26194,26196,26198],{"text":26195,"start":21872,"end":21930},"Ich glaube auch, dass wir als programmierbar Crew ganz gut darin sind, auf solche Leute zuzugehen, die vielleicht gerade 'n bisschen alleine rumstehen.",{"text":26197,"start":21933,"end":22121},"Aber ansonsten lohnt es sich vielleicht auch für alle Drinnies und Introvertierten da draußen, unserem Discord Server beizutreten, weil das wollen wir ja sicherlich im beim nächsten Mal 'n bisschen mehr noch nutzen und vielleicht, also selbst wenn man sich jetzt nicht traut, jemanden anzusprechen, kann man darüber trotzdem Leute finden, die auch da waren oder Kontakte knüpfen im Nachhinein und noch mal über Sachen schreiben, über die man sich vielleicht nicht traut zu sprechen.",{"text":26199,"start":22126,"end":22133},"Völlig völlig fein.",101,{"sentences":26202,"speaker":121,"num_words":4053,"start":22136,"end":22144},[26203],{"text":26204,"start":22136,"end":22144},"Ja, war lieber Punkt.",{"sentences":26206,"speaker":165,"num_words":24738,"start":22148,"end":22182},[26207,26209],{"text":26208,"start":22148,"end":22166},"Und für wen lohnt es sich nicht zu kommen?",{"text":26210,"start":22166,"end":22182},"Für Leute, die sich schon Die",{"sentences":26212,"speaker":141,"num_words":1206,"start":22182,"end":22189},[26213],{"text":26214,"start":22182,"end":22189},"schon alles wissen.",{"sentences":26216,"speaker":165,"num_words":25283,"start":22192,"end":22263},[26217,26219],{"text":26218,"start":22192,"end":22253},"Zu gut auskennen, die können ja dann gerne was zu unserem Programm beitragen und vielleicht einen einen Call for Participation ausfüllen.",{"text":26220,"start":22256,"end":22263},"Die URL war",{"sentences":26222,"speaker":121,"num_words":4446,"start":22265,"end":22276},[26223],{"text":26224,"start":22265,"end":22276},"CFP Punkt Programmier Punkt bar.",{"sentences":26226,"speaker":165,"num_words":165,"start":22276,"end":22284},[26227],{"text":26228,"start":22276,"end":22284},"Ganz einfach.",{"sentences":26230,"speaker":141,"num_words":24738,"start":22287,"end":22321},[26231],{"text":26232,"start":22287,"end":22321},"Ja und vielleicht Leute, die keinen Bock auf Austausch haben, die müssen auch 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