[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":33896},["ShallowReactive",2],{"\u002Fpodcast\u002Fnews-41-26-kolibri-claude-code-mods-neuer-firefox":3},{"podcast":4,"pickOfTheDayCount":80,"speakerCount":81,"relatedPodcasts":82,"transcript":83},{"id":5,"published_on":6,"type":7,"number":8,"title":9,"slug":10,"description":11,"transcript":12,"audio_url":13,"apple_url":12,"google_url":12,"spotify_url":12,"youtube_url":12,"cover_image":14,"banner_image":12,"speakers":26,"members":27,"picks_of_the_day":76,"tags":77,"tagsPrepared":78,"speakersPrepared":79},"a5ddd016-7d61-4c39-a79a-131be7f7c880","2026-10-08T04:00:00.000Z","news","41\u002F26","Kolibri \u002F\u002F Claude Code Mods \u002F\u002F Neuer Firefox","news-41-26-kolibri-claude-code-mods-neuer-firefox","\u003Cp>Ein neues AI-Modell aus Deutschland, Mods für Claude Code und ein Firefox, der kaum wiederzuerkennen ist: Das bringen Fabi, Garrelt und Dennis diese Woche mit. Vorab eine Bitte: Das Team vom Engineering Kiosk will mit seiner \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fengineeringkiosk.github.io\u002Fgerman-tech-podcast-survey\u002F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Umfrage zu deutschsprachigen Tech-Podcasts\u003C\u002Fa> herausfinden, was ihr hört und was euch wichtig ist. Macht doch gern bis zum 24. Dezember mit.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>Am Ende dieser Folge diskutieren wir noch, wie stark sich unsere Entwicklungsarbeit mit AI zuletzt gedreht hat. Wer danach etwas zum Lachen braucht: Garrelt empfiehlt euch das Video \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.youtube.com\u002Fwatch?v=DlTNN0gvkLM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AI CEO Interviews (2026)\u003C\u002Fa> von Kai Lentit. Schreibt uns, ob ihr so etwas öfter in den News hören wollt!\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>\u003Cem>Ihr habt noch kein Ticket für die programmier.con 2026? Dann nutzt jetzt noch die Chance und nehmt am 25. und 26. November an unserem Event rund um Web und AI teil! Mehr unter: \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fcon.programmier.bar\u002F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\u002F\u002Fcon.programmier.bar\u002F\u003C\u002Fa>\u003C\u002Fem>\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>Nachdem sich Aleph Alpha 2024 aus dem Rennen um eigene LLMs verabschiedet hatte, meldet sich das Heidelberger Unternehmen jetzt mit \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Faleph-alpha.com\u002Fkolibri\u002F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kolibri\u003C\u002Fa> zurück. Fabi stellt uns das seit dem 3. Oktober verfügbare Open-Weight-Modell vor: eine Mixture-of-Experts-Architektur mit 78 Milliarden Parametern, von denen pro Token rund 3 Milliarden aktiv sind, spezialisiert auf Deutsch und gebaut für Verwaltung, Banken und andere regulierte Branchen. Mal eben lokal laufen lassen ist trotzdem nicht drin, die Gewichte brauchen rund 78 GB GPU-Speicher. Solide für den souveränen Einsatz, der ganz große Wurf ist es für Fabi aber nicht.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>Mit \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fclaude.com\u002Fblog\u002Fclaude-code-mods\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mods\u003C\u002Fa> lässt sich Claude Code ab sofort per TypeScript umbauen. Garrelt berichtet uns, was damit geht: Anders als Hooks können Mods Events umschreiben, eigene UI zeichnen und eingebaute Features wie \u002Fdiff ersetzen, im Terminal wie in der Desktop-App. Ausgeliefert werden sie über Plugins, mehrere Mods lassen sich stapeln und Claude Code schreibt und hot-reloadet sie auf Wunsch gleich selbst. Spannend: Ein Entscheidungsmodell wie Jev kann nicht mehr benötigten Tool-Output aus dem Kontext werfen, dazu passt Cloudflares neues Open-Weight-Modell \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fhuggingface.co\u002FCloudflare\u002Fclef\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Clef\u003C\u002Fa>, das mit Jev kompatibel ist.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>Und dann noch eine Non-AI-News, zumindest fast: \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.youtube.com\u002Fwatch?v=l7tQ1v4TCeY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Firefox hat ein neues Design\u003C\u002Fa> bekommen. Dennis zeigt uns, was sich ändert: Die Tabs wandern in eine Seitenleiste nach links, was stark an Arc erinnert, und ein einziger Schalter deaktiviert sämtliche AI-Funktionen im Browser. Wer über einen Browser-Wechsel nachdenkt, kann Firefox mal wieder eine Chance geben.\u003C\u002Fp>",null,"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.buzzsprout.com\u002F176239\u002Fepisodes\u002F19924572-news-41-26-kolibri-claude-code-mods-neuer-firefox.mp3",{"id":15,"title":16,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":17,"filename_download":18,"metadata":19,"type":20,"filesize":21,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":22,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":23,"uploaded_on":24,"folder":12,"width":25,"height":25,"charset":12,"duration":12},"d170e999-6954-46e3-b78d-b3819e60ae4a","News 26 Lotum","d170e999-6954-46e3-b78d-b3819e60ae4a.jpg","News 26 Lotum.jpg",{},"image\u002Fjpeg","1261962","2026-10-07T12:32:54.388Z","7d52cb41-56d8-499c-b7a2-46c2e0d8f405","2026-10-07T12:32:54.385Z",1500,[],[28,44,61],{"member":29},{"id":30,"first_name":31,"last_name":32,"occupation":33,"description":34,"normal_image":35},"958f6624-c721-4ff9-8a97-69148f540945","Dennis","Becker","\u002F\u002F Podcast-Host","\u003Cp>Dennis ist Head of Development bei Lotum und kümmert sich liebevoll um die Entwickler:innen und deren Weiterentwicklung. \u003Cbr>In den Podcastfolgen übernimmt Dennis gerne die Moderation. Beim täglichen Tischtennis ist er immer am Start und seit wenigen Jahren passionierter Kitesurfer. Mittlerweile ist er auch Vibe Coder mit Leidenschaft und überzeugt, dass seine Kolleg:innen AI unterschätzen. \u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":36,"title":37,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":38,"filename_download":39,"metadata":12,"type":20,"filesize":40,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":41,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":12,"uploaded_on":42,"folder":12,"width":43,"height":43,"charset":12,"duration":12},"7a9fd72e-16b1-4283-8c1f-348a3e7986f9","Dennis Becker","7a9fd72e-16b1-4283-8c1f-348a3e7986f9.jpg","dennis_becker_normal_01e352e682.jpg","45729","2022-01-16T14:26:35.196Z","2021-12-30T14:16:28.647Z",1024,{"member":45},{"id":46,"first_name":47,"last_name":48,"occupation":49,"description":50,"normal_image":51},"af60e6ac-beb7-4eff-8fe8-bb017558368e","Garrelt","Mock","\u002F\u002F Software Developer \u002F\u002F Podcast-Host","\u003Cp>Garrelt bereichert das Podcast-Team mit seinem umfangreichen Wissen über eine Vielzahl von Tech-Themen. Seine Leidenschaft für Mobile Games hat er eindrucksvoll bewiesen, als er noch im Studium sein eigenes Spiel entwickelte.\u003Cbr>Wenn er nicht mit seiner kleinen Familie im selbst umgebauten Van die Welt erkundet, genießt er es, historische Burgen zu besichtigen. Garrelt findet den Ausgleich zwischen digitaler und analoger Welt spannend und integriert so viel wie möglich davon in seinen Alltag. Seine vielseitigen Interessen und seine Begeisterung für Technologie machen ihn zu einer wertvollen Ergänzung des Teams.\u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":52,"title":53,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":54,"filename_download":55,"metadata":56,"type":20,"filesize":57,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":58,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":59,"uploaded_on":60,"folder":12,"width":43,"height":43,"charset":12,"duration":12},"a97e0bc1-29e6-46ce-ab1a-d85b738552f0","Garrelt CD","a97e0bc1-29e6-46ce-ab1a-d85b738552f0.jpg","Garrelt_CD.jpg",{},"672932","2024-07-29T14:31:27.028Z","e97179d2-51b3-4deb-828f-9524091441f5","2024-07-29T14:31:26.899Z",{"member":62},{"id":63,"first_name":64,"last_name":65,"occupation":33,"description":66,"normal_image":67},"ff2b7fcd-803f-4bcb-88d4-4f36636c7d6a","Fabi","Fink","\u003Cp>Es ist eher dem Zufall zuzuschreiben, dass Fabi zum Full Stack Developer wurde. Mit Anfängen als Product Owner und Software-Architekt, hatte er zwischenzeitig seine Passion als Coding Wizard gefunden. Heute fungiert er als Product Manager bei Lotum.\u003Cbr>Als Frontsänger mehrerer Bandprojekte fehlt Fabi manchmal die große Bühne im Alltag. Das ist vor allem dann spürbar, wenn er im Podcast auch mal ungefragt seinen Expertisen-Senf dazugibt. Im Gegenzug ist er der Einzige in der Runde, der den Pick of the Day wirklich ernst nimmt.\u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":68,"title":69,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":70,"filename_download":71,"metadata":72,"type":20,"filesize":73,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":74,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":59,"uploaded_on":75,"folder":12,"width":43,"height":43,"charset":12,"duration":12},"56cc12dd-4672-4db0-850f-7ad37b68ca86","Fabi CD","56cc12dd-4672-4db0-850f-7ad37b68ca86.jpg","Fabi_CD.jpg",{},"583732","2024-07-29T11:46:00.241Z","2024-07-29T11:46:00.135Z",[],[],[],[],486,207,[],{"id":84,"service":85,"supported_features":86,"speakers":89,"raw_response":96},"b3b9dafa-f54b-4e5c-83da-1221020386c8","deepgram",[87,88],"timestamps","diarization",[90,92,94],{"identifier":91,"name":31},"0",{"identifier":93,"name":64},"1",{"identifier":95,"name":47},"2",{"metadata":97,"results":114},{"transaction_key":98,"request_id":99,"sha256":100,"created":101,"duration":102,"channels":103,"models":104,"model_info":106,"diarize_info":111},"deprecated","01a116a9-f884-7312-a700-a0b62c0abb2a","c094883196cb53c36111ee90fea36572c2d23884e2740d194a4c2c7900cef780","2026-10-07T14:00:04.679Z",2450.6401,1,[105],"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3",{"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3":107},{"name":108,"version":109,"arch":110},"2-general-nova","2024-05-09.3071","nova-2",{"model_uuid":112,"arch":113},"a9f85c2b-5afb-4b9d-b49b-492c43a01cfb","v1",{"channels":115,"utterances":24009},[116],{"alternatives":117},[118],{"transcript":119,"confidence":120,"words":121,"paragraphs":22176},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu 1 neuen programmierbaren News Folge 41 26. Wir reden über Kolibri, einem neuen AI Model, über die clayd code Mods, die rausgekommen sind. Firefox hat sich aufgehübscht und ein kleines Update von Apple. Ich bin Dennis Becker zugeschaltet. Der Fabi Finckerlow und... Gar und Mogg, wir haben wieder an das Alphabet... Wir haben's geschafft. Wir haben's wir haben's geschafft, uns alle Alphabet zu halten. Ja, es war super, dass Du gesagt hast, mir zugeschaltet, das hätte ich länger überlegen müssen, wir hätten nur mal was ab und 10 wieder singen müssen. Ja, ich hab das direkt mitgedacht für euch. Hammer. Ja, als allererstes starten wir mit 1 kleinen Bitte und zwar gibt es eine Umfrage von einem unserer, ich weiß gar nicht, wie man das nennt. Man könnte jetzt entweder wenn man böses Konkurrenz Podcast sagen Okay. Oder man könnte natürlich Partner sagen oder Freunde. Anyway Engineering Kiosk, ein Techblog im deutschsprachigen Umfeld hat sich viele Gedanken gemacht zu 1 Umfrage zu deutschen Tech Podcasts und da das uns natürlich helfen würde, wenn ihr daran auch teilnehmt, direkt zu Beginn der Folge den Hinweis darauf. Geht son bisschen rum, was ihr hört, was euch wichtig ist et cetera. Den Link kommt in der Link kommt in unsere Shownotes. Bis wann, ich würd übrigens Freunde sagen. Ich hab ja mit Wolf für und Andi hab ja schon eine Folge aufgenommen. Ich war ja auch schon zu Gast. Das Engineering Podcast. Unsere Freunde. Unsere Freunde. Unsere Freunde. Und bis wann? Muss man das zu machen? Zum Heiligen Abend. Oh, okay, der ist ja noch Zeit. Genau. Läuft 'n bisschen länger. Gut, gut. Yes. Gut, haben wir das ausm Weg? Können wir uns direkt in den nächsten, ja das nächste AI Modell schmeißen. Das damit meinst Du wohl Colibri. Wir haben nämlich ein deutsches Modell und also erst mal interessant, von wem das Modell kommt, Alef Alpha. Haben wir, ich hab noch mal für euch noch mal in die Historie reingeschaut, da haben wir schon das ein oder andere Mal drüber gesprochen und ich glaub, das 1. Mal irgendwie 2023. Und eigentlich hat Alev Alpha gesagt, dass sie komplett aus dem Modelgeschäft aussteigen und keine Modelle mehr releasen werden. Die wurden ja auch von Co hier gekauft. Ich glaub zuletzt, als sie über einen Modell gesprochen haben, war 2023, da haben sie Luminos vorgestellt. Damals waren wir irgendwie noch 'n bisschen wohlwollend, dass immerhin mal 'n deutsches Unternehmen war, die so was rausbringt, aber auch damals war's schon so, dass das Modell jetzt nicht irgendwie neue Benchmarks geknackt hat. Dann gab's son bisschen 2024 haben wir son bisschen über diese Series B von Alef Alpha gesprochen, so wo sie sich son bisschen größer gemacht haben, als sie eigentlich sind und dann 2024 haben sie gesagt, sie steigen aus dem KI Rennen aus so und also was heißt zum KI Rennen? Also zumindest keine eigenen LLMs mehr und konzentrieren sich eher so auf die Plattform und sind son bisschen das das deutsche und KI Unternehmen, das ja, ich sag mal eher für Behörden und Banken und irgendwie Unternehmen mit großer Sicherheitsanforderungen irgendwie, die diejenigen sind. Ja, jetzt haben sie am dritten Oktober, Tag der Deutschen Einheit, ein neues Modell rausgebracht, das sich Colibri nennt und sie, das sich Colibri nennt und sie sagen auch, in der Modellklasse, in der sie unterwegs sind, sind sie wirklich so an der Paretolinie, also eigentlich das Beste aus Kosten und Performance. Die Modellklasse sind eher kleine Modelle, also es ist ein dreieinhalb, also Sie kategorisieren sind, dreieinhalb Billionen Parametermodell, wobei Sie, man sagen muss, diesen Mixedurft Experts Modell. Das heißt, Sie verbrauchen im Vergleich zu anderen relativ viel, weil Sie viele Experts haben, also 78 Billionen Parameter braucht's auf der auf der Platte, auf der GPU, weshalb es, sag ich mal, kein kleines Modell ist, was man jetzt unbedingt lokal irgendwie laufen lässt und son bisschen ihr ihr Alleinstellungsmerkmal, was sie herausstellen, ist, dass sie halt sehr fokussiert sind irgendwie auf auf Deutsch. Also sie hatten 'n relativ aus ihrer Sicht großes deutsches Trainingsset so und wenn sie sich jetzt mit Guen 3 Punkt 5 vergleichen, dann sagen sie, sie sind irgendwie im Deutschen auch 'n paar Benchmarks irgendwie besser, obwohl man auch dazu sagen muss so, wenn man dann halt in wirklich dieser dreieinhalb Billionen Parameterklasse so, wo sie auch, wie gesagt, mehr Tup mehr Speicher verbrauchen, wenn Du schon irgendwie auf den 72 27 Billionen Parametermodell, Qan 3 Punkt 8, also eigentlich das neuere gehst, dann sind schon wieder 10 Punkte besser im Deutschen. Und Sie sagen noch halt so Dinge wie, dass das Modell ein bisschen ehrlicher ist und in 50 50 Prozent oder knapp da drunter der Fälle wirklich sagt, wenn es etwas nicht weiß so ungefähr. Und man merkt son bisschen, ne Zielgruppe sind auf jeden Fall auch hier wieder Behörden, Banken, Luftfahrtzulieferer so und ja, es ist schön, dass wir 'n deutsches Modell haben mal wieder. Interessant, dass Alef Alpha da irgendwie auftaucht, aber auch wenn Sie sagen, sind da an der Pareto Linie in Ihrer Modellklasse und sich noch mit Gamer 4, A4B vergleichen, Der große Wurf ist es jetzt nicht. Ja, aber ich finde es schon, also mit dem Background, den Sie haben, dass Sie, sag ich's, gesagt haben, in Deutschland sind Sie der AI Anbieter und dann da geht's ja auch dann dass die Daten in Europa bleiben und sie versuchen sozusagen diesen Train zu fahren, lass mal gucken, dass wir das im Deutschen irgendwie zu 'nem noch 'n bisschen besseren Modell machen, was gut läuft, was Günstiges. Also ich finde, es passt eigentlich ganz gut. Kann mir gut vorstellen, dass das gut ankommt auch bei den Firmen, die sie betreuen. Na ja, also ich glaub, weil sie ich glaub das Modell gut verkauft bekommen und sowas glaube ich auf jeden Fall. Also ich meine man auch, man muss mal dazu sagen, ne, zuletzt hatten wir irgendwie, ich weiß gar nicht, das letzte deutsche Modell, was wir irgendwie hatten, was da irgendwie eher so staatlich war. Ich weiß schon gar nicht mehr, da haben wir uns ja auch über das die Aufmachung, wie das Ganze präsentiert wurde, wo man sagt, ey, es ist einfach so deutsch, wie's präsentiert wird. Und alle Alpha, wenn man auch mal aufmacht Wie war das? Ja, das müssten wir vielleicht noch mal, ich such vielleicht noch mal parallel irgendwie raus. Vielleicht kann ja auch Dennis grad noch mal googeln oder so. Aber es war wie gesagt ein deutsches Modell. Kannst Du nicht. Kannst Du nicht. Nein, nein, ich ich ich schüttel den Kopf, weil ich glaub wirklich, ich hab so, auch die Webseite noch vor mir bildlich, aber ich komm grade nicht auf den Namen. Aber werd's jetzt Modell gemacht? Das war irgend son Ego mit irgendwie, also ja, ich weiß noch, weil ich Google. Okay, okay. Wir schauen mal parallel nach, aber wenn man wenn man jetzt sozusagen, wenn wir's gleich mal sagen, welches Modell es war, da war die Aufmachung so na ja, ne, wenn man jetzt mal auf die Alfa Alphá Colibri Seite geht, das ist schon, das haben sie schon irgendwie ganz gut verkauft und sie sagen auch, ne, zum Beispiel es wurde komplett von unserem Team in Deutschland trainiert mit lückenloser Integrität der Lieferkette, Betriebsabläufe bleiben unabhängig, Schutz geistigen Eigentums und ist für die Arbeit im regulierten Bereich optimiert und so. Also die werden schon Anwendungsfälle finden so und werden damit schon irgendwie Business machen. Trotzdem hätte da überhaupt dann was 1 mit Claude gebaut, ne? Na ja, Sie Sie sprechen ja von der lückenlosen Integrität der Lieferkette. Ich würde mal tippen, andere AIs gehören auch zu... Also wenn wenn Sie's ernst meinen, bedeutet's ja auch, Sie haben wirklich auch irgendwie keinerlei synthetische Daten irgendwie von anderen Modellen, kein Model Destillation und nichts gemacht. Aber wie wir auch gesehen haben bei ihr ihrer Series Biso, manchmal wird auch mehr erzählt als die Realität zeigt. Von daher trotzdem interessant. Kolibri, interessant, dass Alef Alpha da wieder mit drin ist. Wie gesagt, sie gehören ja zu Co hier, dem kanadischen Unternehmen, die ja auch am Anfang ja immer mal mehr Tier bei uns im Podcast Thema waren, wo man ja auch sagen muss, Sie sind mittlerweile nicht mehr so ganz kompetitiv mit den großen Vorreitern der AI oder auch SI. Was heißt denn SI? Es-Ey? Es-Ey, das ist die Superintelligence. Ja. Und unser Freund... Donaldo Trampo. Da bin ich, genau, da bin ich mir sicher, dass ich mein Freund nennen. Was soll, was soll ich das mal sagen? Ich hasse Trump. Aus Amerika hat das Trump genannt in Super Intelligence und nicht mal Archie Fisher Intelligence. Ist ja nicht Artificial, ist ja da. Ja, weil er sagt, das klingt so Fake. Ah, ja. Deswegen Superintelligence und die bringen alle auf, Elon Musk nennt jetzt auch XAI und XSI Nee, ich find's so dumm. Die haben's ja auch alle unterschrieben, oder? Also ich mein Ja. Oder war das 'n Fake Bild? Ich glaub nicht. Nee, also das, da waren die großen Unterschriften von allen großen Unternehmen. SI. Also ab jetzt wir reden von Superintelligence. Wir reden nicht unbedingt Allerdings war auf dem, das war das war ein ganz, da waren Tippfehler bei United States, wo Trump von True unterschrieben hat unter seinem Dokument. Ah, nein. Es gibt vielleicht an SI. Aber ich find SI geht sich 'n bisschen schlechter über die Lippen, oder? Ich find AI, irgendwie SI. II, KI, was mit KI? Superintall. Wir haben auch einige, ich möchte sie nicht dichtlosen, aber Kollegen, die sagen, die haben immer aI gesagt, das hat mich verwirrt. Also wenn dann KI oder Ja, das Gute ist jetzt im deutschen s I und s I, also es ist dann ja auch die Superintelligenz. Ja, das stimmt. Wir können ja reden ja auch nicht mehr. Aber künstlich klingt Fake. Also Für uns Deutschen ist richtig gut dieser Move. Ja, das ist super. Das find 'n s I super Doin. Für uns passt es, ja. Ja. Schön, das sind die wichtigen Dinge, die man machen muss als Präsident. Dinge umbenennen ist auf jeden Fall Ja. Ja. Premium. Kannst Du deine Macht zeigen? Golf von Amerika. Was? Von Mexiko Golf von Amerika. See Amerika oder wie heißt der da oben? Lake of America oder? America Lake. Ich weiß auch nicht, was hat er denn jetzt alles irgendwie Also die einen der großen Seen da oben, Lake undario oder so. Ja, undario. Glaube ich, weil die ja auch mit zu Kanada gehört, den hat er auch umbenannt in, in, ich weiß nicht genau, ob American Lake oder, also irgendwas mit Amerika und Lake. Was ist das denn? Machen die da so Meetings so, was können wir da alles umbenennen oder? Ich glaube, das sind wirklich Sachen, die er sich selbst ausdenkt. Ja. Kommt drauf, weil es nicht viel, viel am Meeting. Jud, Claudia saß aber oder in Tropic saß in einem Meeting und hat gesagt, hey, wie können wir denn unsere Pluget System noch ein bisschen aufmodden. Haben die das auch unterschrieben? Ja. Die haben das auch unterschrieben. Shoutout übrigens an Kai Lenert, der 'n sehr cooles Video gemacht hat über AI CEOs. Hast Du das gesehen? Ja. Dieses lustige Ding da? Ja, ja. Ach so. Ja. Mega gut. Können wir in die Shownotes packen. Ist 'n alter Studienkollege von mir, also falls Du's hörst shoutout. Echt? Ich hab's nicht. Ja. Siehste mal, wieder was dazu zu Hause. Wie wär Ich wusste überhaupt nicht, dass der dass der Deutscher ist. Mhm. Also. Ach krass. Siehst Du mal? Der war Rüße ja auch aus Karlia. Darf man so Infos über teilen? Karl, ja. Ja, auf jeden Fall, Claude hat sich gedacht, wir machen mal Mods, weil wir coole Gamer sind, brauchen alle Mods. Was sind Mods? Hast Du dir schon mal gewünscht Dennis, dass deine Claude UI ganz anders aussieht, als sie aussieht? Mein erster Gedanke, als ich den Titel gelesen habe, ich würde gerne immer Konfetti haben. Das ist jetzt absolut machbar, weil Mods wirklich dir sehr viel ermöglichen, deine deinen Cloud Code zu modifizieren, deswegen hat sie ja oder so anzupassen, wie Du's möchtest. Also Sie haben's 'n bisschen mit Hooks verglichen. Hooks hatten ja schon die Möglichkeit, an ganz vielen Events anzuknüpfen und darauf bestimmtes Verhalten laufen zu lassen, zum Beispiel irgendwelche Skripte auszuführen oder was auch immer, aber es war eben nie möglich Cloud Code selbst zu verändern. Einerseits, was die UI angeht, aber auch so was wie, was die, was die Proms, was die Proms angeht. Aber in Mord kurz zur Verständnisfrage, geht's hier ums Terminal oder die Cloud App Cloud Code Bros? Das hatte ich mich auch gefragt. In dem Artikel schreiben reden sie von beiden und ich vermute auch, dass Du auch die Cloud Desto App damit anpassen kannst. Wo da die Grenzen sind, da wird's Grenzen geben, da bin ich mir ganz sicher, hab's nicht getestet. Da wirst Du ja wahrscheinlich nicht irgendwie deine Menüleiste links anpassen können, wo Du wieder zurück zu... Also Sie haben schon im Beispiel in den Beispielen machen sie ja schon im Interface, also über der Input Bar rum und machen da so weitere Infos und so was, die sie einblenden. Also ich hab schon Gut, Infos kann ich mir auch vorstellen, aber ich glaube, Du kannst jetzt nicht irgendwie sagen, mach mal die Chat den Chat Tab weg oder so. Also da bin, weiß ich nicht. Könnte mir vorstellen, dass da Grenzen gibt, aber ich glaube, gerade bei dem bei der CI kannst Du vermutlich ändern, was Du möchtest und das sind im Prinzip einfach type Skip Funktionen. Es können auch mehrere auf demselben Event gesteckt sein. Das heißt, wenn man irgendwie verschiedene Mods von verschiedenen Leuten installiert oder von der Firma und dann am Privaten kann man die stecken und da gibt's dann eine bestimmte Reihenfolge, je nachdem, wie sie installiert sind. Die kommen über Plug ins, also Plug ins, die ja schon länger Teil von Cloud Code sind, können jetzt auch Mods enthalten. Das heißt hier, ne, wie alles, beschreiben Sie auch sehr gut, es ist immer Vorsicht geboten, wo man diese Plug ins installiert und Sie reden auch sehr viel darüber und das finde ich auch gut, so wie man das als Admins auch sperren oder bisschen eindampfen kann, woher diese Plug ins kommen und gleichzeitig haben sie aber auch 'n Plug in, der als allererstes läuft und die die anderen Mods daran hindert Dinge zu tun, die potenziell schädlich sind. So was wie oder was auch immer. Das ist wohl auch Open Source, kann man sich anschauen. Und was sie auch machen, ist, dass sie einige der Funktionalitäten, die sie schon drin haben, so was wie das Slash auch zu Mods umbauen und sie das sukzessive daran anpassen, sodass man im Prinzip irgendwann sagen kann, okay, ich möchte Cloud Code sehr bärbounce haben und alle Funktionalitäten, die sie haben, erst mal rauswerfen und dann kann man auch 'n sehr schlankes Cloud Code haben, wenn man das möchte. Diesmal auf Cloud Punkt com, guck mal son paar an. Es gibt ja wirklich, ich möchte ja sogar einen Browser im Terminal anzeigen. Ja, ich glaub, Du bist, also jetzt sind echt dadurch keine Grenzen mehr gesetzt und ich find das 'n sehr coolen Move. Also ich weil wir hatten ja auch schon mal im Podcast über Pi gesprochen, diesen Open Source Agent oder, also Thuis, Hannes, danke. Und den fand ich halt cool, weil genau diese Flexibilität da einfach möglich ist. Und das war ja auch so der Selling Point, sag einfach, schreib dem Agent so, was Du ändern willst und er macht das. Und das ist genau das, was sie hier aussagen. Also Du musst deinen deine Mods nicht selber schreiben, sag einfach Cloud Code, was Du haben möchtest und er kann es entwickeln, installieren und dann in derselben Session auch hot reloaden, was ich total cool finde. Und ja, Sie haben auch 'n paar Beispiele, so was wie, keine Ahnung, also Du hast ja grad schon einen genannt, son Browser irgendwie in der in der CLI oder man zeigt sich seine CICD Pipeline Status an. Wenn man grad in der Session ist und der committet, kann man gucken, okay, es ist grün rot zum Beispiel. Es gab auch ein Beispiel von typeafe AI. Typeafe, hab ich das richtig? Die von Jeff? Ja. Die haben ein Beispiel genannt, wo sie gesagt haben, ey, nutzt doch Jeff, deinen Kontext 'n bisschen zu säubern, indem Jeff entscheidet, ob der Tool Output, der im Kontext ist, noch gebraucht wird über Länge Session und dadurch sehr entschieden werden kann, okay, wirft man das raus. Ein Haken daran, Grüße an Sebi, der das direkt ausgetestet hat, ist natürlich, dass wenn man den Kontext ändert, der Cash auch in also nicht mehr validiert ist. Und das heißt, was die Kosten angeht, ist das für nicht so sinnvoll, aber wenn es darum geht, ne, Du willst deinen Kontext clean halten und lange gute, also den Kontext nutzen können mit guten Informationen, dann ist das jetzt auch möglich so. Also das, ich glaub, Code Code wird der, Cloud Code wird dadurch wirklich sehr flexibel. Man kann's Vielleicht keine Service Announce mit der Stelle, weil Du auch Jeffka wieder genannt hast. Es gibt irgendwie auch Cloudflare, hat jetzt auch vor 5 Tagen ein Open Modell Cleaf rausgebracht. Also ein Cleaf. CLEF, also ein auch ein System one Model wie Jeff und nur Open Source. Und wer's trotzdem Close Source haben möchte, seit heute ist auch Open Ais verfügbar. Das hab ich mir schon gedacht, dass da jetzt ganz viele nachkommen, ja. Aber am findest Du Oh, gut, dass es so schnell geht. Ja, ich glaub, ja. Ein Use Case, den ich mir gerade erdacht habe. Ich bin gespannt. Ich glaub, wir sind ganz modern. Danke, Fabian. Das kann, das wird geil. Achtung. Carl, hatt dich fest. Wir hatten letzte Woche, wir hatten letzte Woche Onside, definitiv Woche Onside und haben uns ein bisschen Gedanken gemacht und eine der großen Themen und anderem war auch Austauschen, fehlender Austausch über alles mögliche, ne, wie werden gerade entwickelt, was für Lösungen schon gefunden wurden Und jetzt hast Du da sonen kleinen, wenn Du 'n Chat anfängst, son kleinen Classifier der, nein nicht Classifier ist falsch, einfach ein kleines LLM, was parallel läuft praktisch und guckt so, hey, das ist gerade deine Problematik, die Du hast und guckt, haben wir das schon mal gelöst irgendwo und schlägt dir einen Kollegen oder eine Kollegin vor, die Du dann kontaktieren kannst. Dennis, das finde ich nicht schlecht. Vielleicht kann man das auch wirklich mit Jeff verbinden, so. Also vielleicht kann diese Entscheidung auch Jeff irgendwie treffen. Ich bin noch nicht in dem Jeff Game so drin, muss ich sagen. Ich seh zwar immer wieder ganz coole Use Cases, aber ich hab's in meinem Kopf noch nicht so richtig gut. Na, wenn Du irgendwie, wenn Du irgendwie Kontext hast, der dir son bisschen sagt, wo was gemacht wurde. Na gut, dann müsste schon viel reinknallen dafür, dass Jeff Gut reinknallen. Weil Du könntest, ne, am Ende dann die Options sind einfach die Leute und dann sagt er dir so. Aber das muss ja trotzdem Kontext haben, was sie gemacht haben, ne. Ich glaub, es muss ja eher explorativ losschicken. Ich glaub, das ist auch für mich der Haupt Use Case mit, Du musst ja schon super explorativ. Was was ist die Quelle? Jedes GitHub Repor, was wir haben, zu gucken, gibt's irgendwo Ja. Gibt's irgendwo was Ähnliches und dann zu sagen, wer hat wer war Commita. Gut, aber ja. Aber am Ende ist am Ende noch die Antwort, ja, der Cloud Code oder irgend eine AI, so frag die AI, die hat's gemacht. Gut, aber Du könntest Ja, aber nee, das ja ist ein Argument und klar, wenn es immer kürzer alles wird und sowas, aber wir hatten jetzt schon häufiger die Pferde, wo irgendwie gleiche Sachen anders umgesetzt wurden, was eigentlich Quatsch ist, man hat sich schon ein bisschen Zeit sparen können. Ich glaub schon, dass man, ne, son relativ schlanken Überblick machen könnte über die Produkte und deren Features, weil da geht's ja meistens Features. Also was willst Du 'n Feature einbauen? Und dann kann zumindest auf jeden Fall Jeff sehr, sehr effizient sagen, haben wir schon oder nicht? Und dann kannst Du ja immer noch sagen, okay, dann guck mal in die oder so. Ja, lassen wir ein bisschen reifen. Coole Idee. Sagt deinem Claudia, der soll's bauen, Fisch? Keine Zeit. Keine Token. Keine Token. Keine Token. Oh Dennis. Das ist das. Ein gucken. Token habe ich. Kein Geld. Token habe ich, keine Zeit habe ich. Ja, Du musst ja nur 5, also nicht mal 5 Minuten in dein Handy sprechen und sage so, Lord. Diese 5 Minuten habe ich nicht. Dann mach halt eine Minute. Komm, ich spreche jetzt gerade immer Ich spreche jetzt rein, komm lass mich. Ich hab gerade auch noch mal kurz so reflektiert irgendwie, wir müssen, ich weiß nicht ob wir da 'n Deep Dive draus machen wollen, aber ich fände es schon interessant, wenn wir noch mal müssen erzählen, wie so bei uns im Moment die Entwicklung sich dreht und wie viel gerade bei uns auch so passiert. Zeig, was sich hier tagtäglich. Ob wir jetzt mehr News bringen, einfach drüber plaudern oder ob wir mal 'n bisschen mehr Deepdive machen, uns mal Gedanken machen, aber ich fände es auf jeden Fall ganz spannend, was wir so, wie wir so gerade entwickeln, das zu teilen. Das finde ich auch spannend und uns alle. Ja, weil sich ja auch in der Firmen diskutieren in den letzten 3, 4 Wochen dann noch mal so viel Extrem gedreht hat, das wird schon noch mal ganz anders sehen als vor 4 Wochen bei uns. Also wir haben auch auf 'nem Team gesagt, also dieser dieses mit dieser Begriff mit co Autored by Cloud Code oder so was, das ist doch auch immer falsch rum. Also mittlerweile müssen wir wirklich wenn dann sagen co Autored by und dann Name des Developers. Also eigentlich sprechen wirklich von Co Autoring zu sprechen. Und er ist sehr, sehr bescheiden. Fühlt es sich für euch auch noch mal ähnlich an wie letztes Jahr Dezember? Da war ja auch son Breaking Point, wo Du dachtest, okay, jetzt geht was. Ich hab Ich find's krasser. Es ist grad noch mal... Ja. Also ja, also krasser im Sinne von der Step Change fühlt sich vielleicht krasser an, aber es ist noch mal son Moment, wo man denkt so, okay, jetzt geht noch mal viel mehr als man vorher die ganze Zeit trifft. Aber spannend. Denkt ihr, es war vor allen Dingen Mindset, Mindset Mindset Mindset Shift oder war es vor allen Dingen, was ist wirklich Opus 5 5? Ich glaube schon. Also für mich schon, weil es war so, ich glaube, es es war jetzt nicht 10 Prozent besser, es war vielleicht ein, 2 Prozent besser, aber das hat halt dazu geführt, dass man dann ihm wirklich viel mehr vertrauen konnte und ihm sagen konnte, mach einfach mal. Also da braucht's ja nicht immer da. Gehst Du damit, Fabi? Na ja, ich glaub also ich am Ende vielleicht auch son bisschen beides, ist ja schon durch Opus 5 5, vielleicht war's der Punkt, dass wir da dann irgendwie mehr Vertrauen drin haben, dass wir uns einfach noch mehr gewagt haben, dann wirklich's auch einfach zu machen so und ich glaub aber auch schon, also ich glaub es läuft dann werden wir ein bisschen beides so zusammen sollen, aber ich hab auf jeden Fall jetzt das Gefühl, dass wir jetzt an 'nem State sind, das eigentlich alles, was wir anfassen und am Ende sagen so, ey wir kriegen's mit AI komplett automatisch und eigentlich auch was die Gewerke angeht und so, dass es so ist, wir müssen uns eigentlich komplett unternehmerisch komplett restrukturieren. Es macht überhaupt keinen Sinn mehr Developer, Designer und Product Manager zu haben. Also die sind ja an Geheimnissen aus son ein interner... Na ja gut, ich meine, es sind ja, was heißt interner ist jetzt auch nicht so, dass es da draußen nicht irgendwie klar ist, dass dass sich irgendwie dahin entwickelt, aber ich find aber interessant, dass wir jetzt einfach an dem Punkt sind, wo wir wirklich sagen, wir müssen darüber mal diskutieren, so. Ja. So wie halt natürlich. Ich ich's jetzt gerade so an, als müssten wir den Schritt jetzt sagen wir mal gehen. Kann schon sein Dennis, dass Du recht hast, dass es vorher einfach noch nie jemand groß genug gedacht hat, das zu probieren. Aber ich kann mir schon vorstellen, dass es mal probiert wurde und dann eben so die ein, 2 Prozent gefehlt haben. Ja klar. Und und da gesagt hat, ja soll doch noch hier gucken und weil probiert sich aber und so. Klar, ne. Auf jeden Fall. Ja, spannend. Kommen wir zu 1 Non AI News von mir. Ich weiß nicht, ist auch schon länger her wahrscheinlich, dass das passiert ist. Oh. Und zwar gibt es eine neue Version 1 recht berühmten Browsers. Zeig mal Bilder. Zeig mal Bilder. Ja, guckt euch ruhig 'n bisschen auf eurem Handy an, während ihr während ich mit dem Podcast Zuhörern einfach son bisschen hier warte. Ja okay, sorry, der das Der Fuchs sieht anders aus. Brauchst Du das? Nein, das heißt das Firefox. Firefox. Das ist Firefox. Richtig. Firefox Firefox hat eine recht, ich weiß gar nicht, grundlegende neue Version, aber auf jeden Fall ein großes Update bekommen, wo Design Dinge anders sind und also ganz ohne AI geht's doch nicht. Also sie haben so ein das ein 1 Alleinstellungsmerkmal ist so ein man hat ein AI On und Off Troggel und der sorgt dafür, dass wenn man ihn ausschaltet, man nicht irgendwelche AI Funktionalitäten hat, die dann im Browser passieren oder Webseiten passieren oder wie auch immer. SI, danke. Also man kann sich vor s I schützen an an der Stelle. Nee, das mache ich nicht mit. Man kann sich vor KI schützen. S I Stelle. Ja und wenn man so die, also in diesem in dem Promo Video sieht man gar nicht so den richtigen Browser, sondern immer so son bisschen, wie der grundsätzlich strukturiert ist und ich musste sehr an meinen Arch denken. Der sah nämlich sehr so aus, also Tab Lice ist nach links gewandert. Chrome hat das auch. Jetzt musst Du mir doch Bilder angucken. Chrome hat das auch, ja, ist das noch ob's aber ist noch als Flag oder oder als Einstellung, ne? Ja, es ist relativ so versteckschip. Ja, ja, genau, ja. Genau. Ja, ich weiß nicht, wie's euch geht. Ich hab jetzt irgendwie wenig wenig Schmerzen und deswegen mein, müsste ich irgendwie meinen Browser wechseln, aber es sah jetzt erst mal wie 'n guter moderner Browser aus, superschnell, ja, ganz gute Funktionalitäten. Also, falls ihr gerade irgendwie denkt, ach ich könnt mal wieder einen Browser wechseln, könnt ihr mal Firefox wieder wechseln. Bist Du eigentlich, bist Du auf Arc oder hast Du zu diesem, ich glaub 7 Browser oder wie ist das? Die, nee Moment, nee, die war ja das 2. Von der Browser Company. Ja. Aber es gibt einen Browser, der sozusagen genau ARCES nur halt noch Updates bekommt. Also irgend eine andere Firma hat gesagt, okay, wenn ARC nicht weiterentwickelt wird, dann machen wir es uns Ach so nee, sieht er aus. Sieht er aus. Ja, ja. Aber ganz ehrlich sind wir nicht an dem Punkt, wenn dir wenn Du mit irgendwas unzufrieden bist bei deinem aktuellen Browser, dann bau dir einfach einen eigenen. Boah, bei Browsern hätte ich bisschen Schiss, dass da wirklich irgendwie was. Nee, dann Bau dir einfach einen eigenen Browser. Ja, bau dir einen Browser. Ja. Hey, komm jetzt stell ich dich das an, das ist einmal, sprich einmal 5 Minuten mit dem Handy. Ich finde schon die Funktionalität. Es ist, reicht nur, ich will mich halt Chrome nur besser. Ich will mich halt nicht so beschäftigen, weil es ist so, da geht's ja auch viel Security und keine Ahnung, Cookie. Also weißt Du so, da wird ja schon gebaut. Ja, wahrscheinlich schon so, aber da hätte ich auch nix dagegen, einfach 'ner großen Company zu vertrauen, die Ich sage nur, wenn Du ein Problem im Moment hast, Du scheinst kein scheint kein Problem mit deinem Browser zu haben. Aber wenn dich was stört. Stimmt, man könnte halt auf Chrome aufbauen so, ne. Da ist Slash gespielt und So wie's alle machen. Ja okay, ich mach einen Browser. Ja mach. Glaub mir, die die 10 Minuten hast Du deine Essstörung. Schon 'n bisschen, ich erinner mich grad, dass wir vor halbes Jahr, dreiviertel Jahr irgendwie über einen Browser gesprochen hab, der noch mal komplett von neu aufgebaut wurde und das irgendwie son großes Ding ist, weil sich das keiner traut und das irgendwie so geil ist. Und ich find's schon 'n bisschen schade, dass das jetzt so nicht mehr son Ding ist. Also, dass das dann auch nicht mehr so eine große Sache ist. Software ist keine große Sache mehr. Ja, stimmt. Aber deswegen ja auch bald beide Außer halt die Idee. Das ist ja das, was Fabi sagt. Ja klar. Wenn halt was Fixeln willst, wenn halt irgendwie das die neue Benutzerführung, das neue zusammenfassen, dass Du halt nicht was hast. Aber davor war halt mehr Spielraum für sowas, wo die Idee jetzt nicht so das Witzigste ist, sondern es irgendwie cool ist einfach zu machen. Und das fällt halt alles weg, ne. Ja, als Beispiel von letzter Woche, ne, gerade Du bist ja jetzt auch User meiner meiner Kontakt App. Ja. Und das ist ja auch son Beispiel, ne, irgendwie nutzen viele bei uns nutzen Kontakt Kontakta als AI Herness Tool und die hatten die ganze Zeit keine iOS App. Dann hab ich letzte Woche mit AI angefangen eine eigene zu bauen. Witzigerweise letzten Samstag haben sie dann endlich ihre iOS App rausgebracht, gehört zwar zum Pro Plan, aber es ist trotzdem so, ich denke, ja, ich bau jetzt einfach meiner weiter, weil die macht was ich tun soll und Eigentlich auch 'n bisschen Kontakt da selber bauen. Vielleicht brauchst Du dann nicht mehr diese, weil Du hast ja diese Bedienungshilfe da brauchst Du, dass der entsperrt sein muss. Das find ich 'n bisschen doof. Ja. Aber ich versteh so, dass das eine ist, aber dann lass doch Kontakt da selber bauen. Ja, absolut. Als baust Du Kontakte selber mit der iOS App zusammen. Ja, warum nicht? Sind ja noch 5 Minuten. Obwohl wir sagen, alles funktioniert noch nicht. Diese Tennis sollte seit letzter Woche eigentlich schon unser neues Aufnahmetool haben. Wir falls wir heute wieder Audioprobleme haben, da liegt's weiterhin an Reverseiten daran, dass der Dennis noch nicht fertig ist. Wir haben's heute vorhin getestet und es hat direkt nicht funktioniert. Also alles kann SI noch nicht. Moment mal. Das ist nicht richtig. Es gab nur einfach den Validierungsschritt in diesem ganzen Tool noch nicht. Du hast nicht getestet, bevor Du das hast. Das das sagt K I auch definitiv. Da steht sehr groß so. Nein, Fabi. Das steht sehr groß. Da, dass da auf jeden Fall noch Tests ausstehen, bevor man's produktiv einsetzen sollte. Dennis, darf ich dir eine mehr oder weniger Vielen Dank. Sämtliche Frage stellen? Okay. Ist son bisschen Feedback auch. Es ist son bisschen Feedback, aber es ist doch einfach eine Frage. Du Du findest Ja. Hast Du das Gefühl, dass dein Blick sich auf AI komplett gedreht hat, weil Du warst zumindest immer 1 vor vor allen Dingen vor der Elternzeit, der gesagt hat, so ey, wird noch viel mehr können, als ihr alle denkt und wo Du immer gesagt hast, so ey Leute, ihr denkt nicht weit genug. Ja. Und jetzt hab ich manchmal das Gefühl, denkst Du eher so, ach nee, komm, das geht doch nicht oder so. Also weißt Du, dass Du sagst so, ich hab keine Zeit dafür, natürlich hast Du das, das ist ein prompt. Also weißt Du, wo ich das Gefühl hab, manchmal so Du Du staffeln, also Du gehst eher so in die manchmal in die andere Richtung? Würde ich, also müsste ich beobachten von meinem Gefühl, würde ich sagen, nein. Okay. Es ist nicht so. Ich würde schon immer noch sagen, wir denken zu, also wir sind nicht progressiv genug im Denken, was Kajelles machen kann. Okay. Es fängt jetzt son bisschen an, schwierig zu werden natürlich. Also erstens das Ding, ich hab halt, also ich ich ich, das Argument, einfach nur kurz auf die Frage, so, das Argument in 5 Minuten sehe ich schon so, weil ich hab ja tendenziell in meinem Kopf 100 Sachen, die ich gerne in dieser Art machen würde. Ja. Und diese hundertmal 5 Minuten, die habe ich dann halt vielleicht auch nicht. Okay. Also das heißt, das ist, da muss ich's dann trotzdem irgendwie abwägen. Ja. Und das andere, wo es schon schwieriger wird, ist, ich war bis jetzt immer so komplett entspannt, was die Zukunft angeht und so ich gesagt hab, ja okay, ne, wir werden da schon irgendwie Wege finden für uns und und alle und da tut sich langsam son bisschen eine Lücke auf, die ich so gedanklich nicht ganz füllen kann im Sinne von, irgendwie kann ich mir diesen Schritt noch nicht vorstellen, Dass... Also irgendeiner muss ja AI noch bedienen auch erst mal oder also Du bist oder Du bist halt gleich in dem Case, Du sagst Du sagst hier ist einfach nur Budget und Geld und AI mache irgendwie genau meine Aufgabe auf 'nem Ebene wie Du bist ein Gaming Studio so und mach das jetzt. Mhm. Ja und und da so raus zu destillieren, so was ist denn das, was wo wir dann noch die Leverage haben, die ich irgendwo spüre, dass sie irgendwie da ist so als Team, als Mensch, als wir aufgebaut haben über ein paar Jahre. Wo wir den Mehrwert bieten? Wo wir noch irgendwie einen Mehrwert bieten Ja. Mit KI Alldinger zu tun, die wir dann vielleicht im Endeffekt ein bisschen effizienter, ein bisschen besser, ein bisschen anders machen, als andere das machen könnten so. Mhm. Und und das ist das ist das Ding so. Ich finde das, also zumindest den Punkt merke ich grad bei Team Zero, in dem ich grad bin, sehr gut, wo wir ein PM, ein Entwickler und ein Designer sind. Und Lars hat das ganz schön gesagt, dass er so meinte, so, natürlich hätte ich auch selber eben prompen können, dass wir jetzt irgendwie son Cloud Flair Setup haben, wo jede Branch gepusht wird und so, aber er wär halt nie drauf gekommen. Also ich glaub, das ist der Mehrwert, den wir bieten, dass meine Denke aufm Produkt halt eine Dev Denke ist und ich weiß so, was ist denn? Was ist denn jetzt gut für uns an Infrastruktur, an vielleicht auch Architektur oder so und lass es dann auf 'ner anderen Ebene, wo ich den 'n Prototypen gebaut hab, wusste er so genau, was ist denn jetzt wichtig fürs Produkt und konnte ihn viel besser prompton als ich, weil er genau wusste, was sind denn die next Steps? Genauso ist ein Robin da und kann einfach durch die Proms, er macht praktisch auch vielleicht 2, 3 Proms, aber sein Ding sieht dann einfach tausendmal besser aus, weil er halt weiß, wie er das Designweiß prompen muss, ne? Und das ist, glaube ich, schon der Mehrwert, den. Ja, ich glaub, das ist die Zugänglichkeit. Ich finde, also Du kannst wahrscheinlich viel davon Bett machen. Also wie Du schon sagst, Lars könnte halt trotzdem sagen so, ey, ich hab keine Ahnung von Cloud, ich möchte das soundso verfügbar machen, gib mir die technischen Möglichkeiten dafür und dann würde AI ID auch eine gute Lösung bieten. Ja. Und ähnlich kannst Du wahrscheinlich auch Design machen, studier mal 10 Design Apps und gib mir das Beste, was wir dafür brauchen so. Es ist halt mehr Aufwand. Ich glaube schon, dass Du zu ähnlichen Ergebnissen kommen könntest, aber natürlich ist überhaupt, also überhaupt diese Vorstellungskraft, was ist möglich, was wollen wir machen, was ist, ne, so, das ist natürlich schon was, was irgendwie wir alle irgendwo gemein haben. Mhm. Das ist, habe ich schon häufiger gebracht das Argument, wenn ich jetzt denken würde, Du gehst raus auf die Straße und gibst unsere aktuellen Tools 10 Random Menschen so. Ja. Die würden nicht so Wie ist die Erwartungshaltung, was da was da irgendwie tolles bei rauskommt. Ja. Weil wir hatten bei der programmierbar Meet-up hatten wir hatten Fabi Fabi und Grisha ja das Burger machen übernommen, so ne? Ja. Wir hatten dafür sone komplette Bestell App mit Bon Drucker und dann Abläufe von. Auf weiteren Bildschirm, wo sie einfach gesehen haben. Sie haben während sie, ne, diese Burger gegrillt haben, die App noch weit gecodet weitergebracht, sodass es optimiert wird, so. Ich finde schon, dass das uns irgendwo, also das war 'n besserer Bürgerladen als 99 Prozent so der Bürgerläden, die Du draußen siehst, von den Prozessen und den Abläufen her. Ja. So und der draußen verändert sich ja nicht so viel. Dönermann, der dreimal deine Bestellung falsch macht, so, der hat ja nicht den Antrieb, das irgendwie besser zu machen. Mhm. Und ich glaube, das ist schon irgendwo was und ich kann's nicht ich kann's nicht definieren. Du hast auch kein Geld, das besser zu machen, ne? Ah, dem wenn Du das in dem System hinstellen würdest, der würde es in 3 Tagen kaputtmachen oder nicht mehr nutzen oder sowas. Es ist nicht so, da ist der Anspruch nicht da für Probleme lösen, für effizient sein, für irgendwie Ach so, Du meinst, wenn das selber machen würde. Ja, ja genau, ja. Egal wie. Ich glaube einfach nur, dass es schon irgendwo und ich weiß nicht, was uns jetzt dann auszeichnet, ob's jetzt mir kommt's zu plump vorzusagen, sowas wie ein Studium so ne. Das ist es glaube ich nicht. Nee. Aber also erstmals unser Edge, dass wir Futerin sind digitale Produkte zu bauen so ne. Und das haben machen wir ja viel gemacht und wir wissen worauf's ankommt und können irgendwie am Ende die AI susieren, dass halt der die die Trefferwahrscheinlichkeit, dass der Output, den wir mit AI generieren, gut ist, die können wir erhöhen. So die Frage ist halt, hält das für die nächsten 3, 4, 5 Jahre so Ja. Oder ist das halt irgendwann so, dass es am Ende so ist, darin ist AI auch gut genug und dass Du nur noch sagst, ich hab 'n Burgerladen und brauch 'n Bestellsystem? Also, ja, finde ich absolut 'n Fair Point. Das kann man, also das war ja immer das Thema, so dass Du nicht weißt, wie sich das entwickelt. Und trotzdem ist es so, dieses, was Du gesagt hast, Du könntest die AI auch sagen, guck dem erzählen Apps an und mach das so. Hab ich auch gemacht. Mhm. Und Du merkst halt, so AI ist ja 'n statistisches Programm, was sozusagen den perfekten Mittelwert rausholt. Und Du merkst dann so, das was dabei rauskommt, ist so, das ist gut, aber es ist auch nichts Besonderes, kein Wow Moment. So und der entsteht dadurch, dass Du, keine Ahnung, 'n Robin da sitzen hast, der sagt so, ey, ich hab das Gefühl, diesem Produkt würde dieser Stil guttun. Mhm. Und dann gibt der so 1, 2 Nudges und das kann die A ja auch gut. Mhm. Aber das kann sie nicht von alleine, weil sie so zum Mittelwert tendiert. Und so, wie Du schon sagst, Fabi, vielleicht kann sie's irgendwann auch besser, aber ich glaube schon auch daran, dass AI ja vom Prinzip her hat, ich such den besten Mittelwert. Und wenn Du ihm dann nicht sagst, diese Ausreißer mitgibst, weiß nicht, ob er das dann selber kann. Also da bin ich skeptisch und da sehe ich auf jeden Fall gerade unseren Mehrwert extrem, weil ich sehe, was passiert, wenn Lars und Robin was promte im Vergleich zu mir und wir haben alle, bringen alle 'n Mehrwert mit, so. Ja. Und... Ja und ich mein trotzdem ist auch die Frage, wenn Du's wenn Du's mal noch weiter in die Zukunft blickst, wird's am Ende jetzt, wenn wir nur auf Gamesindustrie mal blicken ne, wird's am Ende so sein, dass er einfach so weit ist, dass jeder Game, jeder User sich einfach sein eigenes Game promptet so und das am Ende so ist ja eher so weit, dass jeder einfach sein eigenes Game baut oder wird's am Ende so sein, dass trotzdem weiterhin eine große Menge von Leuten alle dasselbe Spiel spielen und das dann sozusagen von 1 AI Persona wie auch immer gebaut wird? Glaub eher an das 2. 2. Szenario und glaub ich dann, dass diese Games eigenständig von AIs entwickelt werden, die einfach nur sagen so, hey Du bist eine AI Company und finde einfach das nächste Game, was alle zusammen spielen, glaube ich jetzt grad noch nicht. Es wird irgendwie in diesem Prozess werden Menschen integriert sein, die sich überlegen, was wollen wir bauen und was ist das nächste große Ding son bisschen, ob das dann wiederum wie wie viel Input von uns dafür notwendig ist und so, das werden wir son bisschen sehen. Ich glaub, also ich glaube absolut nicht daran, dass wir in eine Welt kommen, wo Leute ihre Spiele selber bauen, weil es ist ja für uns Experten schon schwer, 'n Spiel zu bauen, was Spaß macht. Es ist fucking schwer und ich glaube, dieses Szenario wär dann so, ja, dann baut sich halt über 'n Spiel, spielt es 2 Minuten und denkt so, hä, was ist das denn für 'n Crab? So, das, ich glaube, das wird nie passieren, weil es einfach schwer ist, Spiele zu bauen. Und ich glaube aber schon, dass es eine Welt geben kann, wo Du eine AI irgendwann die Idee gibst, also weißt Du, wo ich promptte, was die Funktion sein sollen. Robin promptet, wie's aussehen soll. Lars sagt vielleicht noch son bisschen was für Events oder so. Dann kommt doch eine Kathi und sagt, hier, UA und dann lässt Du's arbeiten 2 Tage und dann ist fertig. Das könnte ich mir schon vorstellen. Ja, natürlich. Sind wir auch nicht so weit von entfernt. Nee, sind wir nicht so weit von entfernt. Momentan ist das son bisschen mehr iterativ, aber so insgesamt könnte das dann schon sehr automatisch passieren. Ja. Ja, bin ich auch dabei. Also der User selbst will sich sein Game nicht prompen, so ne. Der da will er sich keine Gedanken machen, woran eigentlich Spaß hat, er will ja entertained werden, er will irgendwo das einfach bekommen. Ich kann das kann man sein, dass... Vielleicht kann man das ja mal anfangen zu messen. Ich find grad, was Du meintest, gerade mit eigentlich dann die Frage, wie viele Iterationen braucht es, bis AI das Ergebnis geliefert hat, was ich mir vorher vorgestellt habe, so und wo glaube ich muss ich noch dran schleifen so. Weil jetzt im Grunde genommen wir sind ja grade im State, wo wir sagen, theoretisch kann alles davon automatisiert werden, alles kann die AI machen und es ist nur die Frage, wie häufig sind wir im Loop so? Und im Moment sind wir noch an vielen Stellen dann im Loop so. Es ist trotzdem krass, dass im Grunde genommen alles die AI von vorne bis hinten machen kann und vielleicht können wir ja mal Human in the Loop Counter erstellen für wie häufig warst Du im Loop bei diesem Feature? Cloud Codemods. Ja, find ich gut Human in the Loop Counter bei Features. Das ist Ja, schlecht. Da jetzt haben wir einen Siehst Du? Sprich, das ist ja eigentlich Cloud rein, bitte. Soll ich jetzt live machen oder was? Hatten wir eigentlich noch Themen, weil ich finde auch wir können ja auf dem Part jetzt irgendwie aufhören oder? Ja nee. Ja. War schön, wir hatten das noch von Apple, das ist nicht so wichtig. Deswegen ist, ja. Aber Human und Loop Counter, das will ich haben. Das ist das nächste große Ding, damit werden wir reich. Ah, das vielleicht auch eine gute Metrik für uns. Ja, genau. Wir können einfach gucken, so, Du setzt 'n Pieter und resettest den Human in Worauf optimieren wir? Auf möglichst wenig in der Loops. Also erst mal finde ich, ist die Frage, ob wir darauf optimieren. Ich finde es aber erst mal nur interessant, wohin entwickelt sich so, ne? Und da ne, da denke ich so, Dennis von 'nem halben Jahr hat dir gesagt, super, das ist auf jeden Fall das Ziel und jetzt bist Du kritisch. Also das zumindest war das so mein Ein. Für euch. Oder meine. Es tut mir ein bisschen leid. Ja gut. Also ich mein, ich ich mache ja 'n bisschen was anderes, ne. Ich bin der DEDNGgeber grade. Ja, erst mal ist das, worauf wir optimieren, gutes Feature und dann gucken wir erst mal nur, wie ob sich der Human Underloop Counter verändert. Aber die anderen werden's hassen, Natürlich, wenn ich gerade... Na wieso, es kann ja keiner hassen. Jetzt ziehen die alle am gleichen Strang. Was? Okay, ihr merkt da draußen, wir müssen wir sind viel am diskutieren so. Lass uns mal teilhaben an euren Gedanken, ob ihr das jetzt fandet, dass wir euch an unseren Gedanken diesbezüglich teilhaben lassen. Falls ja, können wir das vielleicht ein bisschen mehr einfach in den News integrieren, darüber zu sprechen. Vielleicht könnten wir auch noch, wenn wir Muße haben, noch zwischendurch mal son Einsprecher machen, so nach dem Motto, hier sind die News zu Ende, wir diskutieren jetzt noch. Nein, so nach dem Motto. Das ist alles einfach. Es sagt aber auch schon viel Spaß, wenn ihr alle sagt, wenn ihr alle sagt, also scheiß überlegen wir einfach bis lassen, aber ansonsten. Dann machen wir daraus 'n Dieb da einfach einfacher. Podcast App Programmier Punkt Bar oder über Spotify oder sonst irgendwie irgendwie irgendwo. Vielen, vielen Dank fürs Zuhören. Yes. Nächste Woche mit so einem neuen Recording Tool von Dennis. Yes. Yes. Wie ist es? Hallo Claude. Kannst Du dir das Recording fertig machen? Aber es war gar nicht Claude, dass das vielleicht vielleicht das Problem gewesen ist. Kein Wunder, dass es nicht funktioniert hat. Programmierpunkt recording heißt das recorcts. Perfekt. Wie schon irgendwie kacke. Wieder 'n Komisches Wort. Machen wir nächste Woche? Nehmen wir nächste Woche. Lass mich ganz kurz gucken, ob dieser Termin mit Jan vorher ist, weil wir haben wie gesagt, es gibt einen es gibt einen Probe- und Demotermin, danach wird der alles floorndes funktionieren. Brauchst Du irgendwie mit der mit dir testet, das muss der Jan sein oder was? Ist nächste Woche Donnerstag. Also in 2 Wochen sind wir sicher am Start mit dem neuen Tool. Das sind Teilenvans, die passen nicht mehr zur S-I-Welt. Das stimmt, wenn ich programmierbar mein mein Hauptjob wäre so, dann würde ich das auch so sehen. Ja, das stimmt. Tschau. Tschau. 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Wir reden über Kolibri, einem neuen AI Model, über die clayd code Mods, die rausgekommen sind. Firefox hat sich aufgehübscht und ein kleines Update von Apple. Ich bin Dennis Becker\n\nSpeaker 1: zugeschaltet. Der Fabi Finckerlow und...\n\nSpeaker 2: Gar und Mogg, wir haben wieder an das Alphabet... Wir haben's geschafft.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wir haben's wir haben's geschafft, uns alle Alphabet zu halten.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, es war super, dass Du gesagt hast, mir zugeschaltet, das hätte ich länger überlegen müssen, wir hätten nur mal was ab und 10 wieder singen müssen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, ich hab das direkt mitgedacht für euch. Hammer. Ja, als allererstes starten wir mit 1 kleinen Bitte und zwar gibt es eine Umfrage von einem unserer, ich weiß gar nicht, wie man das nennt. Man könnte jetzt entweder wenn man böses Konkurrenz Podcast sagen Okay. Oder man könnte natürlich Partner sagen oder Freunde.\n\nAnyway Engineering Kiosk, ein Techblog im deutschsprachigen Umfeld hat sich viele Gedanken gemacht zu 1 Umfrage zu deutschen Tech Podcasts und da das uns natürlich helfen würde, wenn ihr daran auch teilnehmt, direkt zu Beginn der Folge den Hinweis darauf. Geht son bisschen rum, was ihr hört, was euch wichtig ist et cetera. Den Link kommt in der Link kommt in unsere Shownotes.\n\nSpeaker 1: Bis wann, ich würd übrigens Freunde sagen. Ich hab ja mit Wolf für und Andi hab ja schon eine Folge aufgenommen. Ich war ja auch schon zu Gast. Das Engineering Podcast. Unsere Freunde.\n\nSpeaker 0: Unsere\n\nSpeaker 1: Freunde. Unsere Freunde. Und\n\nSpeaker 2: bis wann?\n\nSpeaker 0: Muss man das zu machen? Zum Heiligen Abend.\n\nSpeaker 2: Oh, okay, der ist ja noch Zeit. Genau.\n\nSpeaker 0: Läuft 'n bisschen länger. Gut, gut. Yes. Gut, haben wir das ausm Weg? Können wir uns direkt in den nächsten, ja das nächste AI Modell schmeißen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das damit meinst Du wohl Colibri. Wir haben nämlich ein deutsches Modell und also erst mal interessant, von wem das Modell kommt, Alef Alpha. Haben wir, ich hab noch mal für euch noch mal in die Historie reingeschaut, da haben wir schon das ein oder andere Mal drüber gesprochen und ich glaub, das 1. Mal irgendwie 2023. Und eigentlich hat Alev Alpha gesagt, dass sie komplett aus dem Modelgeschäft aussteigen und keine Modelle mehr releasen werden.\n\nDie wurden ja auch von Co hier gekauft. Ich glaub zuletzt, als sie über einen Modell gesprochen haben, war 2023, da haben sie Luminos vorgestellt. Damals waren wir irgendwie noch 'n bisschen wohlwollend, dass immerhin mal 'n deutsches Unternehmen war, die so was rausbringt, aber auch damals war's schon so, dass das Modell jetzt nicht irgendwie neue Benchmarks geknackt hat. Dann gab's son bisschen 2024 haben wir son bisschen über diese Series B von Alef Alpha gesprochen, so wo sie sich son bisschen größer gemacht haben, als sie eigentlich sind und dann 2024 haben sie gesagt, sie steigen aus dem KI Rennen aus so und also was heißt zum KI Rennen? Also zumindest keine eigenen LLMs mehr und konzentrieren sich eher so auf die Plattform und sind son bisschen das das deutsche und KI Unternehmen, das ja, ich sag mal eher für Behörden und Banken und irgendwie Unternehmen mit großer Sicherheitsanforderungen irgendwie, die diejenigen sind.\n\nJa, jetzt haben sie am dritten Oktober, Tag der Deutschen Einheit,\n\nSpeaker 0: ein neues Modell rausgebracht, das\n\nSpeaker 1: sich Colibri nennt und sie, das sich Colibri nennt und sie sagen auch, in der Modellklasse, in der sie unterwegs sind, sind sie wirklich so an der Paretolinie, also eigentlich das Beste aus Kosten und Performance. Die Modellklasse sind eher kleine Modelle, also es ist ein dreieinhalb, also Sie kategorisieren sind, dreieinhalb Billionen Parametermodell, wobei Sie, man sagen muss, diesen Mixedurft Experts Modell. Das heißt, Sie verbrauchen im Vergleich zu anderen relativ viel, weil Sie viele Experts haben, also 78 Billionen Parameter braucht's auf der auf der Platte, auf der GPU, weshalb es, sag ich mal, kein kleines Modell ist, was man jetzt unbedingt lokal irgendwie laufen lässt und son bisschen ihr ihr Alleinstellungsmerkmal, was sie herausstellen, ist, dass sie halt sehr fokussiert sind irgendwie auf auf Deutsch. Also sie hatten 'n relativ aus ihrer Sicht großes deutsches Trainingsset so und wenn sie sich jetzt mit Guen 3 Punkt 5 vergleichen, dann sagen sie, sie sind irgendwie im Deutschen auch 'n paar Benchmarks irgendwie besser, obwohl man auch dazu sagen muss so, wenn man dann halt in wirklich dieser dreieinhalb Billionen Parameterklasse so, wo sie auch, wie gesagt, mehr Tup mehr Speicher verbrauchen, wenn Du schon irgendwie auf den 72 27 Billionen Parametermodell, Qan 3 Punkt 8, also eigentlich das neuere gehst, dann sind schon wieder 10 Punkte besser im Deutschen.\n\nUnd Sie sagen noch halt so Dinge wie, dass das Modell ein bisschen ehrlicher ist und in 50 50 Prozent oder knapp da drunter der Fälle wirklich sagt, wenn es etwas nicht weiß so ungefähr. Und man merkt son bisschen, ne Zielgruppe sind auf jeden Fall auch hier wieder Behörden, Banken, Luftfahrtzulieferer so und ja, es ist schön, dass wir 'n deutsches Modell haben mal wieder. Interessant, dass Alef Alpha da irgendwie auftaucht, aber auch wenn Sie sagen, sind da an der Pareto Linie in Ihrer Modellklasse und sich noch mit Gamer 4, A4B vergleichen, Der große Wurf ist es jetzt nicht.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, aber ich finde es schon, also mit dem Background, den Sie haben, dass Sie, sag ich's, gesagt haben, in Deutschland sind Sie der AI Anbieter und dann da geht's ja auch dann dass die Daten in Europa bleiben und sie versuchen sozusagen diesen Train zu fahren, lass mal gucken, dass wir das im Deutschen irgendwie zu 'nem noch 'n bisschen besseren Modell machen, was gut läuft, was Günstiges. Also ich finde, es passt eigentlich ganz gut. Kann mir gut vorstellen, dass das gut ankommt auch bei den Firmen, die sie betreuen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Na ja, also ich glaub, weil sie ich glaub das Modell gut verkauft bekommen und sowas glaube ich auf jeden Fall. Also ich meine man auch, man muss mal dazu sagen, ne, zuletzt hatten wir irgendwie, ich weiß gar nicht, das letzte deutsche Modell, was wir irgendwie hatten, was da irgendwie eher so staatlich war. Ich weiß schon gar nicht mehr, da haben wir uns ja auch über das die Aufmachung, wie das Ganze präsentiert wurde, wo man sagt, ey, es ist einfach so deutsch, wie's präsentiert wird. Und alle Alpha, wenn man auch mal aufmacht Wie war das? Ja, das müssten wir vielleicht noch mal, ich such vielleicht noch mal parallel irgendwie raus.\n\nVielleicht kann ja auch Dennis grad noch mal googeln oder so. Aber es war wie gesagt ein deutsches Modell. Kannst Du nicht. Kannst Du nicht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nein, nein, ich ich ich schüttel den Kopf, weil ich glaub wirklich, ich hab so, auch die Webseite noch vor mir bildlich, aber ich komm grade nicht auf den Namen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Aber werd's jetzt Modell gemacht?\n\nSpeaker 1: Das war irgend son Ego mit irgendwie, also ja, ich weiß noch,\n\nSpeaker 2: weil ich Google. Okay, okay.\n\nSpeaker 1: Wir schauen mal parallel nach, aber wenn man wenn man jetzt sozusagen, wenn wir's gleich mal sagen, welches Modell es war, da war die Aufmachung so na ja, ne, wenn man jetzt mal auf die Alfa Alphá Colibri Seite geht, das ist schon, das haben sie schon irgendwie ganz gut verkauft und sie sagen auch, ne, zum Beispiel es wurde komplett von unserem Team in Deutschland trainiert mit lückenloser Integrität der Lieferkette, Betriebsabläufe bleiben unabhängig, Schutz geistigen Eigentums und ist für die Arbeit im regulierten Bereich optimiert und so. Also die werden schon Anwendungsfälle finden so und werden damit schon irgendwie Business machen. Trotzdem hätte\n\nSpeaker 2: da überhaupt dann was 1 mit Claude gebaut, ne?\n\nSpeaker 1: Na ja, Sie Sie sprechen ja von der lückenlosen Integrität der Lieferkette. Ich würde mal tippen, andere AIs gehören auch zu... Also wenn wenn Sie's ernst meinen, bedeutet's ja auch, Sie haben wirklich auch irgendwie keinerlei synthetische Daten irgendwie von anderen Modellen, kein Model Destillation und nichts gemacht. Aber wie wir auch gesehen haben bei ihr ihrer Series Biso, manchmal wird auch mehr erzählt als die Realität zeigt. Von daher trotzdem interessant.\n\nKolibri, interessant, dass Alef Alpha da wieder mit drin ist. Wie gesagt, sie gehören ja zu Co hier, dem kanadischen Unternehmen, die ja auch am Anfang ja immer mal mehr Tier bei uns im Podcast Thema waren, wo man ja auch sagen muss, Sie sind mittlerweile nicht mehr so ganz kompetitiv mit den großen Vorreitern der AI oder auch SI.\n\nSpeaker 2: Was heißt denn SI?\n\nSpeaker 0: Es-Ey? Es-Ey, das ist die Superintelligence. Ja. Und unser Freund...\n\nSpeaker 1: Donaldo Trampo.\n\nSpeaker 0: Da bin ich, genau, da bin ich mir sicher, dass ich mein Freund nennen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Was soll, was soll ich das mal sagen? Ich hasse Trump.\n\nSpeaker 0: Aus Amerika hat das Trump genannt in Super Intelligence und nicht mal Archie Fisher Intelligence. Ist ja nicht Artificial, ist ja da.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, weil er sagt, das klingt so Fake. Ah, ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Deswegen Superintelligence und die\n\nSpeaker 1: bringen alle auf, Elon Musk nennt jetzt auch XAI und XSI\n\nSpeaker 2: Nee, ich find's so dumm.\n\nSpeaker 0: Die haben's ja auch alle unterschrieben, oder? Also ich mein Ja. Oder war das 'n Fake Bild? Ich glaub nicht. Nee, also das, da waren die großen Unterschriften von allen großen Unternehmen.\n\nSpeaker 2: SI. Also\n\nSpeaker 1: ab jetzt wir reden von Superintelligence. Wir reden nicht unbedingt\n\nSpeaker 0: Allerdings war auf dem, das war das war ein ganz, da waren Tippfehler bei United States, wo Trump von True unterschrieben\n\nSpeaker 2: hat unter seinem Dokument. Ah, nein.\n\nSpeaker 0: Es gibt vielleicht an SI. Aber ich\n\nSpeaker 1: find SI geht sich 'n bisschen schlechter über die Lippen, oder? Ich find AI, irgendwie SI. II, KI, was mit KI? Superintall.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wir haben auch einige, ich möchte sie nicht dichtlosen, aber Kollegen, die sagen, die haben immer aI gesagt, das hat mich verwirrt. Also wenn dann KI oder Ja,\n\nSpeaker 1: das Gute ist jetzt im deutschen s I und s I, also es ist dann ja auch die Superintelligenz.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, das stimmt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Wir können ja reden ja auch\n\nSpeaker 0: nicht mehr.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber künstlich klingt Fake.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also Für uns Deutschen ist richtig gut dieser Move.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, das ist super. Das find 'n s\n\nSpeaker 0: I super Doin.\n\nSpeaker 2: Für uns passt es, ja. Ja. Schön, das sind die wichtigen Dinge, die man machen muss als Präsident. Dinge umbenennen ist auf jeden Fall\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Ja. Premium. Kannst Du deine Macht zeigen?\n\nSpeaker 1: Golf von Amerika.\n\nSpeaker 0: Was? Von Mexiko Golf von Amerika. See Amerika oder wie heißt der da oben? Lake of America oder? America Lake.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich weiß auch nicht, was hat er denn jetzt alles irgendwie\n\nSpeaker 0: Also die einen der großen Seen da oben, Lake undario oder so. Ja, undario. Glaube ich, weil die ja auch mit zu Kanada gehört, den hat er auch umbenannt in, in, ich weiß nicht genau, ob American Lake oder, also irgendwas mit Amerika und Lake.\n\nSpeaker 1: Was ist\n\nSpeaker 2: das denn?\n\nSpeaker 0: Machen die\n\nSpeaker 2: da so Meetings so, was können wir da alles umbenennen oder?\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich glaube, das sind wirklich Sachen, die er sich selbst ausdenkt. Ja. Kommt drauf, weil es nicht viel, viel am Meeting. Jud, Claudia saß aber oder in Tropic saß in einem Meeting und hat gesagt, hey, wie können wir denn unsere Pluget System noch ein bisschen aufmodden.\n\nSpeaker 2: Haben die das auch unterschrieben? Ja. Die haben das auch unterschrieben. Shoutout übrigens an Kai Lenert, der 'n sehr cooles Video gemacht hat über AI CEOs. Hast Du das gesehen?\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Dieses lustige Ding da? Ja, ja. Ach so.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Mega gut. Können wir in die Shownotes packen. Ist 'n alter Studienkollege von mir, also falls Du's hörst shoutout. Echt?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich hab's nicht.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Siehste\n\nSpeaker 1: mal, wieder was dazu\n\nSpeaker 2: zu Hause.\n\nSpeaker 1: Wie wär Ich wusste überhaupt nicht, dass der dass der Deutscher ist. Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 2: Also. Ach krass.\n\nSpeaker 1: Siehst Du mal?\n\nSpeaker 2: Der war Rüße ja\n\nSpeaker 1: auch aus\n\nSpeaker 2: Karlia. Darf man so Infos über teilen? Karl, ja. Ja, auf jeden Fall, Claude hat sich gedacht, wir machen mal Mods, weil wir coole Gamer sind, brauchen alle Mods. Was sind Mods?\n\nHast Du dir schon mal gewünscht Dennis, dass deine Claude UI ganz anders aussieht, als sie aussieht?\n\nSpeaker 0: Mein erster Gedanke, als ich den Titel gelesen habe, ich würde gerne immer Konfetti\n\nSpeaker 2: haben. Das ist jetzt absolut machbar, weil Mods wirklich dir sehr viel ermöglichen, deine deinen Cloud Code zu modifizieren, deswegen hat sie ja oder so anzupassen, wie Du's möchtest. Also Sie haben's 'n bisschen mit Hooks verglichen. Hooks hatten ja schon die Möglichkeit, an ganz vielen Events anzuknüpfen und darauf bestimmtes Verhalten laufen zu lassen, zum Beispiel irgendwelche Skripte auszuführen oder was auch immer, aber es war eben nie möglich Cloud Code selbst zu verändern. Einerseits, was die UI angeht, aber auch so was wie, was die, was die Proms, was die Proms angeht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber in Mord kurz zur Verständnisfrage, geht's hier ums Terminal oder die Cloud App Cloud Code Bros?\n\nSpeaker 2: Das hatte ich mich auch gefragt. In dem Artikel schreiben reden sie von beiden und ich vermute auch, dass Du auch die Cloud Desto App damit anpassen kannst. Wo da die Grenzen sind, da wird's Grenzen geben, da bin ich mir ganz sicher, hab's nicht getestet. Da wirst Du ja wahrscheinlich nicht irgendwie deine Menüleiste links anpassen können, wo Du wieder zurück zu...\n\nSpeaker 0: Also Sie haben schon im Beispiel in den Beispielen machen sie ja schon im Interface, also über der Input Bar rum und machen da so weitere Infos und so was, die sie einblenden. Also ich hab schon\n\nSpeaker 2: Gut, Infos kann ich mir auch vorstellen, aber ich glaube, Du kannst jetzt nicht irgendwie sagen, mach mal die Chat den Chat Tab weg oder so. Also da bin, weiß ich nicht. Könnte mir vorstellen, dass da Grenzen gibt, aber ich glaube, gerade bei dem bei der CI kannst Du vermutlich ändern, was Du möchtest und das sind im Prinzip einfach type Skip Funktionen. Es können auch mehrere auf demselben Event gesteckt sein. Das heißt, wenn man irgendwie verschiedene Mods von verschiedenen Leuten installiert oder von der Firma und dann am Privaten kann man die stecken und da gibt's dann eine bestimmte Reihenfolge, je nachdem, wie sie installiert sind.\n\nDie kommen über Plug ins, also Plug ins, die ja schon länger Teil von Cloud Code sind, können jetzt auch Mods enthalten. Das heißt hier, ne, wie alles, beschreiben Sie auch sehr gut, es ist immer Vorsicht geboten, wo man diese Plug ins installiert und Sie reden auch sehr viel darüber und das finde ich auch gut, so wie man das als Admins auch sperren oder bisschen eindampfen kann, woher diese Plug ins kommen und gleichzeitig haben sie aber auch 'n Plug in, der als allererstes läuft und die die anderen Mods daran hindert Dinge zu tun, die potenziell schädlich sind. So was wie oder was auch immer. Das ist wohl auch Open Source, kann man sich anschauen. Und was sie auch machen, ist, dass sie einige der Funktionalitäten, die sie schon drin haben, so was wie das Slash auch zu Mods umbauen und sie das sukzessive daran anpassen, sodass man im Prinzip irgendwann sagen kann, okay, ich möchte Cloud Code sehr bärbounce haben und alle Funktionalitäten, die sie haben, erst mal rauswerfen und dann kann man auch 'n sehr schlankes Cloud Code haben, wenn man das möchte.\n\nSpeaker 1: Diesmal auf Cloud Punkt com, guck mal son paar an. Es gibt ja wirklich, ich möchte ja sogar einen Browser im Terminal anzeigen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, ich glaub, Du bist, also jetzt sind echt dadurch keine Grenzen mehr gesetzt und ich find das 'n sehr coolen Move. Also ich weil wir hatten ja auch schon mal im Podcast über Pi gesprochen, diesen Open Source Agent oder, also Thuis, Hannes, danke. Und den fand ich halt cool, weil genau diese Flexibilität da einfach möglich ist. Und das war ja auch so der Selling Point, sag einfach, schreib dem Agent so, was Du ändern willst und er macht das. Und das ist genau das, was sie hier aussagen.\n\nAlso Du musst deinen deine Mods nicht selber schreiben, sag einfach Cloud Code, was Du haben möchtest und er kann es entwickeln, installieren und dann in derselben Session auch hot reloaden, was ich total cool finde. Und ja, Sie haben auch 'n paar Beispiele, so was wie, keine Ahnung, also Du hast ja grad schon einen genannt, son Browser irgendwie in der in der CLI oder man zeigt sich seine CICD Pipeline Status an. Wenn man grad in der Session ist und der committet, kann man gucken, okay, es ist grün rot zum Beispiel. Es gab auch ein Beispiel von typeafe AI. Typeafe, hab ich das richtig?\n\nDie von Jeff? Ja. Die haben ein Beispiel genannt, wo sie gesagt haben, ey, nutzt doch Jeff, deinen Kontext 'n bisschen zu säubern, indem Jeff entscheidet, ob der Tool Output, der im Kontext ist, noch gebraucht wird über Länge Session und dadurch sehr entschieden werden kann, okay, wirft man das raus. Ein Haken daran, Grüße an Sebi, der das direkt ausgetestet hat, ist natürlich, dass wenn man den Kontext ändert, der Cash auch in also nicht mehr validiert ist. Und das heißt, was die Kosten angeht, ist das für nicht so sinnvoll, aber wenn es darum geht, ne, Du willst deinen Kontext clean halten und lange gute, also den Kontext nutzen können mit guten Informationen, dann ist das jetzt auch möglich so.\n\nAlso das, ich glaub, Code Code wird der, Cloud Code wird dadurch wirklich sehr flexibel. Man kann's\n\nSpeaker 1: Vielleicht keine Service Announce mit der Stelle, weil Du auch Jeffka wieder genannt hast. Es gibt irgendwie auch Cloudflare, hat jetzt auch vor 5 Tagen ein Open Modell Cleaf rausgebracht. Also ein Cleaf. CLEF, also ein auch ein System one Model wie Jeff und nur Open Source.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und wer's trotzdem Close Source haben möchte, seit heute ist auch Open Ais verfügbar.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das hab ich mir schon gedacht, dass da jetzt ganz viele nachkommen, ja. Aber am findest Du Oh,\n\nSpeaker 0: gut, dass es so schnell geht.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, ich glaub, ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ein Use Case, den ich mir gerade erdacht habe.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich bin gespannt. Ich\n\nSpeaker 0: glaub, wir\n\nSpeaker 1: sind ganz modern.\n\nSpeaker 0: Danke, Fabian.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das kann, das wird geil. Achtung. Carl, hatt dich fest.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wir hatten letzte Woche, wir hatten letzte Woche Onside, definitiv Woche Onside und haben uns ein bisschen Gedanken gemacht und eine der großen Themen und anderem war auch Austauschen, fehlender Austausch über alles mögliche, ne, wie werden gerade entwickelt, was für Lösungen schon gefunden wurden Und jetzt hast Du da sonen kleinen, wenn Du 'n Chat anfängst, son kleinen Classifier der, nein nicht Classifier ist falsch, einfach ein kleines LLM, was parallel läuft praktisch und guckt so, hey, das ist gerade deine Problematik, die Du hast und guckt, haben wir das schon mal gelöst irgendwo und schlägt dir einen Kollegen oder eine Kollegin vor, die Du dann kontaktieren kannst.\n\nSpeaker 2: Dennis, das finde ich nicht schlecht. Vielleicht kann man das auch wirklich mit Jeff verbinden, so. Also vielleicht kann diese Entscheidung auch Jeff irgendwie treffen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich bin noch nicht in dem Jeff Game so drin, muss ich sagen. Ich seh zwar immer wieder ganz coole Use Cases, aber ich hab's in meinem Kopf noch nicht so richtig gut.\n\nSpeaker 2: Na, wenn Du irgendwie, wenn Du irgendwie Kontext hast, der dir son bisschen sagt, wo was gemacht wurde. Na gut, dann müsste schon viel reinknallen dafür,\n\nSpeaker 1: dass Jeff Gut reinknallen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Weil Du könntest, ne, am Ende dann die Options sind einfach die Leute und dann sagt er dir so.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber das muss ja trotzdem Kontext haben, was\n\nSpeaker 0: sie gemacht\n\nSpeaker 1: haben, ne. Ich glaub, es muss ja eher explorativ losschicken. Ich glaub, das ist auch für mich der Haupt Use Case mit, Du musst ja schon super explorativ. Was was ist die Quelle? Jedes GitHub Repor, was wir haben, zu gucken, gibt's irgendwo Ja.\n\nGibt's irgendwo was Ähnliches und dann zu sagen, wer hat wer war Commita.\n\nSpeaker 2: Gut, aber ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber am Ende ist am Ende noch die Antwort, ja, der Cloud Code oder irgend eine AI, so frag die AI, die hat's gemacht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Gut, aber Du könntest Ja, aber nee, das ja ist ein Argument und klar, wenn es immer kürzer alles wird und sowas, aber wir hatten jetzt schon häufiger die Pferde, wo irgendwie gleiche Sachen anders umgesetzt wurden, was eigentlich Quatsch ist, man hat sich schon ein bisschen Zeit sparen können.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich glaub schon, dass man, ne, son relativ schlanken Überblick machen könnte über die Produkte und deren Features, weil da geht's ja meistens Features. Also was willst Du 'n Feature einbauen? Und dann kann zumindest auf jeden Fall Jeff sehr, sehr effizient sagen, haben wir schon oder nicht? Und dann kannst Du ja immer noch sagen, okay, dann guck mal in die oder\n\nSpeaker 0: so. Ja, lassen wir ein bisschen reifen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Coole Idee. Sagt deinem Claudia, der soll's bauen, Fisch? Keine Zeit. Keine Token. Keine Token.\n\nKeine Token. Oh Dennis. Das ist das. Ein gucken. Token\n\nSpeaker 0: habe ich.\n\nSpeaker 2: Kein Geld.\n\nSpeaker 0: Token habe ich, keine Zeit habe ich.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, Du musst ja nur 5, also nicht mal 5 Minuten in dein Handy sprechen und sage so, Lord.\n\nSpeaker 0: Diese 5 Minuten habe ich nicht.\n\nSpeaker 2: Dann mach halt eine Minute. Komm, ich spreche jetzt gerade immer Ich\n\nSpeaker 1: spreche jetzt\n\nSpeaker 2: rein, komm lass mich.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich hab gerade auch noch mal kurz so reflektiert irgendwie, wir müssen, ich weiß nicht ob wir da 'n Deep Dive draus machen wollen, aber ich fände es schon interessant, wenn wir noch mal müssen erzählen, wie so bei uns im Moment die Entwicklung sich dreht und wie viel gerade bei uns auch so passiert.\n\nSpeaker 2: Zeig, was sich hier tagtäglich.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ob wir jetzt mehr News bringen, einfach drüber plaudern oder ob wir mal 'n bisschen mehr Deepdive machen, uns mal Gedanken machen, aber ich fände es auf jeden Fall ganz spannend, was wir so, wie wir so gerade entwickeln, das zu teilen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das finde ich auch spannend und uns alle.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, weil sich ja auch in der Firmen diskutieren in den letzten 3, 4 Wochen dann noch mal so viel Extrem gedreht hat, das wird schon noch mal ganz anders sehen als vor 4 Wochen bei uns.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also wir haben\n\nSpeaker 2: auch auf\n\nSpeaker 1: 'nem Team gesagt, also dieser dieses mit dieser Begriff mit co Autored by Cloud Code oder so was, das ist doch auch immer falsch rum. Also mittlerweile müssen wir wirklich wenn dann sagen co Autored by und dann Name des Developers. Also eigentlich sprechen wirklich von Co Autoring zu sprechen. Und er ist sehr, sehr bescheiden.\n\nSpeaker 2: Fühlt es sich für euch auch noch mal ähnlich an wie letztes Jahr Dezember? Da war ja auch son Breaking Point, wo Du dachtest, okay, jetzt geht was. Ich hab Ich find's krasser. Es ist grad noch mal... Ja.\n\nAlso ja, also krasser im Sinne von der Step Change fühlt sich vielleicht krasser an, aber es ist noch mal son Moment, wo man denkt so, okay, jetzt geht noch mal viel mehr als man vorher die ganze Zeit trifft.\n\nSpeaker 0: Aber spannend. Denkt ihr, es war vor allen Dingen Mindset, Mindset Mindset Mindset Shift oder war es vor allen Dingen, was ist wirklich Opus 5 5?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich glaube schon. Also für mich schon, weil es war so, ich glaube, es es war jetzt nicht 10 Prozent besser, es war vielleicht ein, 2 Prozent besser, aber das hat halt dazu geführt, dass man dann ihm wirklich viel mehr vertrauen konnte und ihm sagen konnte, mach einfach mal. Also da braucht's ja nicht immer da.\n\nSpeaker 0: Gehst Du damit, Fabi?\n\nSpeaker 1: Na ja, ich glaub also ich am Ende vielleicht auch son bisschen beides, ist ja schon durch Opus 5 5, vielleicht war's der Punkt, dass wir da dann irgendwie mehr Vertrauen drin haben, dass wir uns einfach noch mehr gewagt haben, dann wirklich's auch einfach zu machen so und ich glaub aber auch schon, also ich glaub es läuft dann werden wir ein bisschen beides so zusammen sollen, aber ich hab auf jeden Fall jetzt das Gefühl, dass wir jetzt an 'nem State sind, das eigentlich alles, was wir anfassen und am Ende sagen so, ey wir kriegen's mit AI komplett automatisch und eigentlich auch was die Gewerke angeht und so, dass es so ist, wir müssen uns eigentlich komplett unternehmerisch komplett restrukturieren. Es macht überhaupt keinen Sinn mehr Developer, Designer und Product Manager zu haben.\n\nSpeaker 2: Also die sind ja an Geheimnissen aus son ein interner...\n\nSpeaker 1: Na ja gut, ich meine, es sind ja, was heißt interner ist jetzt auch nicht so, dass es da draußen nicht irgendwie klar ist, dass dass sich irgendwie dahin entwickelt, aber ich find aber interessant, dass wir jetzt einfach an dem Punkt sind, wo wir wirklich sagen, wir müssen darüber mal diskutieren, so. Ja. So wie halt natürlich. Ich ich's jetzt gerade so an, als müssten wir den Schritt jetzt sagen wir mal gehen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Kann schon sein Dennis, dass Du recht hast, dass es vorher einfach noch nie jemand groß genug gedacht hat, das zu probieren. Aber ich kann mir schon vorstellen, dass es mal probiert wurde und dann eben so die ein, 2 Prozent gefehlt haben.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja klar. Und und da\n\nSpeaker 2: gesagt hat, ja soll doch\n\nSpeaker 0: noch hier gucken und weil probiert sich aber und so. Klar, ne. Auf jeden Fall. Ja, spannend. Kommen wir zu 1 Non AI News von mir.\n\nIch weiß nicht, ist auch schon länger her wahrscheinlich, dass das passiert ist. Oh. Und zwar gibt es eine neue Version 1 recht berühmten Browsers. Zeig mal Bilder. Zeig mal Bilder.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, guckt euch ruhig 'n bisschen auf eurem Handy an, während ihr während ich mit dem Podcast Zuhörern einfach son bisschen hier warte.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja okay, sorry, der das Der Fuchs sieht anders aus. Brauchst Du das?\n\nSpeaker 0: Nein, das heißt das Firefox. Firefox. Das ist Firefox. Richtig. Firefox Firefox hat eine recht, ich weiß gar nicht, grundlegende neue Version, aber auf jeden Fall ein großes Update bekommen, wo Design Dinge anders sind und also ganz ohne AI geht's doch nicht.\n\nAlso sie haben so ein das ein 1 Alleinstellungsmerkmal ist so ein man hat ein AI On und Off Troggel und der sorgt dafür, dass wenn man ihn ausschaltet, man nicht irgendwelche AI Funktionalitäten hat, die dann im Browser passieren oder Webseiten\n\nSpeaker 1: passieren oder\n\nSpeaker 0: wie auch immer. SI, danke. Also man kann sich vor s I schützen an an der Stelle. Nee, das mache ich nicht mit. Man kann sich vor KI schützen.\n\nS I Stelle. Ja und wenn man so die, also in diesem in dem Promo Video sieht man gar nicht so den richtigen Browser, sondern immer so son bisschen, wie der grundsätzlich strukturiert ist und ich musste sehr an meinen Arch denken. Der sah nämlich sehr so aus, also Tab Lice ist nach links gewandert.\n\nSpeaker 2: Chrome hat das auch. Jetzt musst Du mir\n\nSpeaker 1: doch Bilder angucken.\n\nSpeaker 0: Chrome hat das auch, ja, ist das noch ob's aber ist noch als Flag oder oder als Einstellung, ne?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, es ist relativ so versteckschip. Ja, ja, genau, ja. Genau.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, ich weiß nicht, wie's euch geht. Ich hab jetzt irgendwie wenig wenig Schmerzen und deswegen mein, müsste ich irgendwie meinen Browser wechseln, aber es sah jetzt erst mal wie 'n guter moderner Browser aus, superschnell, ja, ganz gute Funktionalitäten. Also, falls ihr gerade irgendwie denkt, ach ich könnt mal wieder einen Browser wechseln, könnt ihr mal Firefox wieder wechseln.\n\nSpeaker 2: Bist Du eigentlich, bist Du auf Arc oder hast Du zu diesem, ich glaub 7 Browser oder wie ist das? Die, nee Moment, nee, die war ja das 2. Von der Browser Company. Ja. Aber es gibt einen Browser, der sozusagen genau ARCES nur halt noch Updates bekommt.\n\nAlso irgend eine andere Firma hat gesagt, okay, wenn ARC nicht weiterentwickelt wird, dann machen wir es uns Ach so nee, sieht er aus. Sieht er aus. Ja, ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber ganz ehrlich sind wir nicht an dem Punkt, wenn dir wenn Du mit irgendwas unzufrieden bist bei deinem aktuellen Browser, dann bau dir einfach einen eigenen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Boah, bei Browsern hätte ich bisschen Schiss, dass da wirklich irgendwie was.\n\nSpeaker 1: Nee, dann Bau dir einfach einen eigenen Browser.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, bau dir einen Browser. Ja. Hey, komm jetzt stell ich dich das an, das ist einmal, sprich einmal 5 Minuten mit dem Handy.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich finde schon die Funktionalität. Es ist, reicht nur, ich will\n\nSpeaker 1: mich halt Chrome nur besser.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich will mich halt nicht so beschäftigen, weil es ist so, da geht's ja auch viel Security und keine Ahnung, Cookie. Also weißt Du so, da wird ja schon gebaut. Ja, wahrscheinlich schon so, aber da hätte ich auch nix dagegen, einfach 'ner großen Company zu vertrauen, die\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich sage nur, wenn Du ein Problem im Moment hast, Du scheinst kein scheint kein Problem mit deinem Browser zu haben. Aber wenn dich was stört.\n\nSpeaker 2: Stimmt, man könnte halt auf Chrome aufbauen so, ne. Da ist\n\nSpeaker 1: Slash gespielt und So wie's alle machen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja okay, ich mach einen Browser.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja mach. Glaub mir, die die 10 Minuten hast Du deine Essstörung.\n\nSpeaker 2: Schon 'n bisschen, ich erinner mich grad, dass wir vor halbes Jahr, dreiviertel Jahr irgendwie über einen Browser gesprochen hab, der noch mal komplett von neu aufgebaut wurde und das irgendwie son großes Ding ist, weil sich das keiner traut und das irgendwie so geil ist. Und ich find's schon 'n bisschen schade, dass das jetzt so nicht mehr son Ding ist. Also, dass das dann auch nicht mehr so eine große Sache ist. Software ist keine\n\nSpeaker 0: große Sache mehr.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, stimmt. Aber deswegen ja auch\n\nSpeaker 0: bald beide Außer halt die Idee. Das ist ja das, was Fabi sagt. Ja klar. Wenn halt was Fixeln willst, wenn halt irgendwie das die neue Benutzerführung, das neue zusammenfassen, dass Du halt nicht was hast.\n\nSpeaker 2: Aber davor war halt mehr Spielraum für sowas, wo die Idee jetzt nicht so das Witzigste ist, sondern es irgendwie cool ist einfach zu machen. Und das fällt halt alles weg, ne.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, als Beispiel von letzter Woche, ne, gerade Du bist ja jetzt auch User meiner meiner Kontakt App. Ja. Und das ist ja auch son Beispiel, ne, irgendwie nutzen viele bei uns nutzen Kontakt Kontakta als AI Herness Tool und die hatten die ganze Zeit keine iOS App. Dann hab ich letzte Woche mit AI angefangen eine eigene zu bauen. Witzigerweise letzten Samstag haben sie dann endlich ihre iOS App rausgebracht, gehört zwar zum Pro Plan, aber es ist trotzdem so, ich denke, ja, ich bau jetzt einfach meiner weiter, weil die macht was ich tun soll und\n\nSpeaker 2: Eigentlich auch 'n bisschen Kontakt da selber bauen. Vielleicht brauchst Du dann nicht mehr diese, weil Du hast ja diese Bedienungshilfe da brauchst Du, dass der entsperrt sein muss. Das find ich 'n bisschen doof. Ja. Aber ich versteh so, dass das eine ist, aber dann lass doch Kontakt da selber bauen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, absolut. Als baust Du Kontakte selber\n\nSpeaker 1: mit der iOS App zusammen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, warum nicht? Sind ja noch 5 Minuten.\n\nSpeaker 1: Obwohl wir sagen, alles funktioniert noch nicht. Diese Tennis sollte seit letzter Woche eigentlich schon unser neues Aufnahmetool haben. Wir falls wir heute wieder Audioprobleme haben, da liegt's weiterhin an Reverseiten daran, dass der Dennis noch nicht fertig ist. Wir haben's heute vorhin getestet und es hat direkt nicht funktioniert. Also alles kann SI noch nicht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Moment mal. Das ist nicht richtig. Es gab nur einfach den Validierungsschritt in diesem ganzen Tool noch nicht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Du hast nicht getestet, bevor Du das hast.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das das sagt K I auch definitiv. Da steht sehr groß so. Nein, Fabi. Das steht sehr groß. Da, dass da auf jeden Fall noch Tests ausstehen, bevor man's produktiv einsetzen sollte.\n\nSpeaker 2: Dennis, darf ich dir eine mehr oder weniger Vielen Dank. Sämtliche Frage stellen?\n\nSpeaker 0: Okay. Ist son bisschen Feedback auch.\n\nSpeaker 2: Es ist son bisschen Feedback, aber es ist doch einfach eine Frage. Du Du findest Ja. Hast Du das Gefühl, dass dein Blick sich auf AI komplett gedreht hat, weil Du warst zumindest immer 1 vor vor allen Dingen vor der Elternzeit, der gesagt hat, so ey, wird noch viel mehr können, als ihr alle denkt und wo Du immer gesagt hast, so ey Leute, ihr denkt nicht weit genug.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und jetzt hab ich manchmal das Gefühl, denkst Du eher so, ach nee, komm, das geht doch nicht oder so. Also weißt Du, dass Du sagst so, ich hab keine Zeit dafür, natürlich hast Du das, das ist ein prompt. Also weißt Du, wo ich das Gefühl hab, manchmal so Du Du staffeln, also Du gehst eher so in die manchmal in die andere Richtung?\n\nSpeaker 0: Würde ich, also müsste ich beobachten von meinem Gefühl, würde ich sagen, nein.\n\nSpeaker 2: Okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: Es ist nicht so. Ich würde schon immer noch sagen, wir denken zu, also wir sind nicht progressiv genug im Denken, was Kajelles machen kann.\n\nSpeaker 2: Okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: Es fängt jetzt son bisschen an, schwierig zu werden natürlich. Also erstens das Ding, ich hab halt, also ich ich ich, das Argument, einfach nur kurz auf die Frage, so, das Argument in 5 Minuten sehe ich schon so, weil ich hab ja tendenziell in meinem Kopf 100 Sachen, die ich gerne in dieser Art machen würde. Ja. Und diese hundertmal 5 Minuten, die habe ich dann halt\n\nSpeaker 2: vielleicht auch nicht. Okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also das heißt, das ist, da muss ich's dann trotzdem irgendwie abwägen. Ja. Und das andere, wo es schon schwieriger wird, ist, ich war bis jetzt immer so komplett entspannt, was die Zukunft angeht und so ich gesagt hab, ja okay, ne, wir werden da schon irgendwie Wege finden für uns und und alle und da tut sich langsam son bisschen eine Lücke auf, die ich so gedanklich nicht ganz füllen kann im Sinne von, irgendwie kann ich mir diesen Schritt noch nicht vorstellen, Dass... Also irgendeiner muss ja AI noch bedienen auch erst mal oder also Du bist oder Du bist halt gleich in dem Case, Du sagst Du sagst hier ist einfach nur Budget und Geld und AI mache irgendwie genau meine Aufgabe auf 'nem Ebene wie Du bist ein Gaming Studio so und mach das jetzt. Mhm.\n\nJa und und da so raus zu destillieren, so was ist denn das, was wo wir dann noch die Leverage haben, die ich irgendwo spüre, dass sie irgendwie da ist so als Team, als Mensch, als wir aufgebaut haben über ein paar Jahre.\n\nSpeaker 2: Wo wir den Mehrwert bieten?\n\nSpeaker 0: Wo wir noch irgendwie einen Mehrwert bieten Ja. Mit KI Alldinger zu tun, die wir dann vielleicht im Endeffekt ein bisschen effizienter, ein bisschen besser, ein bisschen anders machen, als andere das machen könnten so.\n\nSpeaker 2: Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und und das ist das ist das Ding so.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich finde das, also zumindest den Punkt merke ich grad bei Team Zero, in dem ich grad bin, sehr gut, wo wir ein PM, ein Entwickler und ein Designer sind. Und Lars hat das ganz schön gesagt, dass er so meinte, so, natürlich hätte ich auch selber eben prompen können, dass wir jetzt irgendwie son Cloud Flair Setup haben, wo jede Branch gepusht wird und so, aber er wär halt nie drauf gekommen. Also ich glaub, das ist der Mehrwert, den wir bieten, dass meine Denke aufm Produkt halt eine Dev Denke ist und ich weiß so, was ist denn? Was ist denn jetzt gut für uns an Infrastruktur, an vielleicht auch Architektur oder so und lass es dann auf 'ner anderen Ebene, wo ich den 'n Prototypen gebaut hab, wusste er so genau, was ist denn jetzt wichtig fürs Produkt und konnte ihn viel besser prompton als ich, weil er genau wusste, was sind denn die next Steps? Genauso ist ein Robin da und kann einfach durch die Proms, er macht praktisch auch vielleicht 2, 3 Proms, aber sein Ding sieht dann einfach tausendmal besser aus, weil er halt weiß, wie er das Designweiß prompen muss, ne?\n\nUnd das ist, glaube ich, schon der Mehrwert, den.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, ich glaub, das ist die Zugänglichkeit. Ich finde, also Du kannst wahrscheinlich viel davon Bett machen. Also wie Du schon sagst, Lars könnte halt trotzdem sagen so, ey, ich hab keine Ahnung von Cloud, ich möchte das soundso verfügbar machen, gib mir die technischen Möglichkeiten dafür und dann würde AI ID auch eine gute Lösung bieten. Ja. Und ähnlich kannst Du wahrscheinlich auch Design machen, studier mal 10 Design Apps und gib mir das Beste, was wir dafür brauchen so.\n\nEs ist halt mehr Aufwand. Ich glaube schon, dass Du zu ähnlichen Ergebnissen kommen könntest, aber natürlich ist überhaupt, also überhaupt diese Vorstellungskraft, was ist möglich, was wollen wir machen, was ist, ne, so, das ist natürlich schon was, was irgendwie wir alle irgendwo gemein haben.\n\nSpeaker 2: Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das ist, habe ich schon häufiger gebracht das Argument, wenn ich jetzt denken würde, Du gehst raus auf die Straße und gibst unsere aktuellen Tools 10 Random Menschen so. Ja. Die würden nicht so Wie ist die Erwartungshaltung, was da was da irgendwie tolles bei rauskommt. Ja. Weil wir hatten bei der programmierbar Meet-up hatten wir hatten Fabi Fabi und Grisha ja das Burger machen übernommen, so ne?\n\nJa. Wir hatten dafür sone komplette Bestell App mit Bon Drucker und dann Abläufe von. Auf weiteren Bildschirm, wo sie einfach gesehen haben. Sie haben während sie, ne, diese Burger gegrillt haben, die App noch weit gecodet weitergebracht, sodass es optimiert wird, so. Ich finde schon, dass das uns irgendwo, also das war 'n besserer Bürgerladen als 99 Prozent so der Bürgerläden, die Du draußen siehst, von den Prozessen und den Abläufen her.\n\nJa. So und der draußen verändert sich ja nicht so viel. Dönermann, der dreimal deine Bestellung falsch macht, so, der hat ja nicht den Antrieb, das irgendwie besser zu machen. Mhm. Und ich glaube, das ist schon irgendwo was und ich kann's nicht ich kann's nicht definieren.\n\nDu hast\n\nSpeaker 2: auch kein Geld, das besser zu machen, ne?\n\nSpeaker 0: Ah, dem wenn Du das in dem System hinstellen würdest, der würde es in 3 Tagen kaputtmachen oder nicht mehr nutzen oder sowas. Es ist nicht so, da ist der Anspruch nicht da für Probleme lösen, für effizient sein, für irgendwie\n\nSpeaker 2: Ach so, Du meinst, wenn das selber machen würde. Ja, ja genau, ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Egal wie. Ich glaube einfach nur, dass es schon irgendwo und ich weiß nicht, was uns jetzt dann auszeichnet, ob's jetzt mir kommt's zu plump vorzusagen, sowas wie ein Studium so ne. Das ist es glaube ich nicht. Nee.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber also erstmals unser Edge, dass wir Futerin sind digitale Produkte zu bauen so ne. Und das haben machen wir ja viel gemacht und wir wissen worauf's ankommt und können irgendwie am Ende die AI susieren, dass halt der die die Trefferwahrscheinlichkeit, dass der Output, den wir mit AI generieren, gut ist, die können wir erhöhen. So die Frage ist halt, hält das für die nächsten 3, 4, 5 Jahre\n\nSpeaker 0: so Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Oder ist das halt irgendwann so, dass es am Ende so ist, darin ist AI auch gut genug und dass Du nur noch sagst, ich hab 'n Burgerladen und brauch 'n Bestellsystem?\n\nSpeaker 2: Also, ja, finde ich absolut 'n Fair Point. Das kann man, also das war ja immer das Thema, so dass Du nicht weißt, wie sich das entwickelt. Und trotzdem ist es so, dieses, was Du gesagt hast, Du könntest die AI auch sagen, guck dem erzählen Apps an und mach das so. Hab ich auch gemacht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Mhm. Und\n\nSpeaker 2: Du merkst halt, so AI ist ja 'n statistisches Programm, was sozusagen den perfekten Mittelwert rausholt. Und Du merkst dann so, das was dabei rauskommt, ist so, das ist gut, aber es ist auch nichts Besonderes, kein Wow Moment. So und der entsteht dadurch, dass Du, keine Ahnung, 'n Robin da sitzen hast, der sagt so, ey, ich hab das Gefühl, diesem Produkt würde dieser Stil guttun. Mhm. Und dann gibt der so 1, 2 Nudges und das kann die A ja auch gut.\n\nMhm.\n\nSpeaker 0: Aber das\n\nSpeaker 2: kann sie nicht von alleine, weil sie so zum Mittelwert tendiert. Und so, wie Du schon sagst, Fabi, vielleicht kann sie's irgendwann auch besser, aber ich glaube schon auch daran, dass AI ja vom Prinzip her hat, ich such den besten Mittelwert. Und wenn Du ihm dann nicht sagst, diese Ausreißer mitgibst, weiß nicht, ob er das dann selber kann. Also da bin ich skeptisch und da sehe ich auf jeden Fall gerade unseren Mehrwert extrem, weil ich sehe, was passiert, wenn Lars und Robin was promte im Vergleich zu mir und wir haben alle, bringen alle 'n Mehrwert mit, so. Ja.\n\nUnd... Ja und\n\nSpeaker 1: ich mein trotzdem ist auch die Frage, wenn Du's wenn Du's mal noch weiter in die Zukunft blickst, wird's am Ende jetzt, wenn wir nur auf Gamesindustrie mal blicken ne, wird's am Ende so sein, dass er einfach so weit ist, dass jeder Game, jeder User sich einfach sein eigenes Game promptet so und das am Ende so ist ja eher so weit, dass jeder einfach sein eigenes Game baut oder wird's am Ende so sein, dass trotzdem weiterhin eine große Menge von Leuten alle dasselbe Spiel spielen und das dann sozusagen von 1 AI Persona wie auch immer gebaut wird? Glaub eher an das 2. 2. Szenario und glaub ich dann, dass diese Games eigenständig von AIs entwickelt werden, die einfach nur sagen so, hey Du bist eine AI Company und finde einfach das nächste Game, was alle zusammen spielen, glaube ich jetzt grad noch nicht. Es wird irgendwie in diesem Prozess werden Menschen integriert sein, die sich überlegen, was wollen wir bauen und was ist das nächste große Ding son bisschen, ob das dann wiederum wie wie viel Input von uns dafür notwendig ist und so, das werden wir son bisschen sehen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich glaub, also ich glaube absolut nicht daran, dass wir in eine Welt kommen, wo Leute ihre Spiele selber bauen, weil es ist ja für uns Experten schon schwer, 'n Spiel zu bauen, was Spaß macht. Es ist fucking schwer und ich glaube, dieses Szenario wär dann so, ja, dann baut sich halt über 'n Spiel, spielt es 2 Minuten und denkt so, hä, was ist das denn für 'n Crab? So, das, ich glaube, das wird nie passieren, weil es einfach schwer ist, Spiele zu bauen. Und ich glaube aber schon, dass es eine Welt geben kann, wo Du eine AI irgendwann die Idee gibst, also weißt Du, wo ich promptte, was die Funktion sein sollen. Robin promptet, wie's aussehen soll.\n\nLars sagt vielleicht noch son bisschen was für Events oder so. Dann kommt doch eine Kathi und sagt, hier, UA und dann lässt Du's arbeiten 2 Tage und dann ist fertig. Das könnte ich mir schon vorstellen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, natürlich. Sind wir auch nicht so weit von entfernt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Nee, sind wir nicht so weit von entfernt. Momentan ist das son bisschen mehr iterativ, aber so insgesamt könnte das dann schon sehr automatisch passieren.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Ja, bin ich auch dabei. Also der User selbst will sich sein Game nicht prompen, so ne. Der da will er sich keine Gedanken machen, woran eigentlich Spaß hat, er will ja entertained werden, er will irgendwo das einfach bekommen. Ich kann\n\nSpeaker 1: das kann man sein, dass... Vielleicht kann man das ja mal anfangen zu messen. Ich find grad, was Du meintest, gerade mit eigentlich dann die Frage, wie viele Iterationen braucht es, bis AI das Ergebnis geliefert hat, was ich mir vorher vorgestellt habe, so und wo glaube ich muss ich noch dran schleifen so. Weil jetzt im Grunde genommen wir sind ja grade im State, wo wir sagen, theoretisch kann alles davon automatisiert werden, alles kann die AI machen und es ist nur die Frage, wie häufig sind wir im Loop so? Und im Moment sind wir noch an vielen Stellen dann im Loop so.\n\nEs ist trotzdem krass, dass im Grunde genommen alles die AI von vorne bis hinten machen kann und vielleicht können wir ja mal Human in the Loop Counter erstellen für wie häufig warst Du im Loop bei diesem Feature?\n\nSpeaker 2: Cloud Codemods.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, find ich gut Human in the Loop Counter bei Features. Das ist Ja, schlecht. Da jetzt haben wir einen Siehst Du?\n\nSpeaker 0: Sprich, das ist ja eigentlich Cloud rein, bitte.\n\nSpeaker 2: Soll ich jetzt live machen oder was?\n\nSpeaker 1: Hatten wir eigentlich noch Themen, weil ich finde auch wir können ja auf dem Part jetzt irgendwie aufhören oder?\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja nee. Ja. War schön, wir hatten das noch von Apple, das ist nicht so wichtig.\n\nSpeaker 2: Deswegen ist, ja. Aber Human\n\nSpeaker 1: und Loop Counter, das will ich haben. Das ist\n\nSpeaker 2: das nächste\n\nSpeaker 0: große Ding, damit werden wir reich.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ah, das vielleicht auch eine gute Metrik für uns.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, genau. Wir können einfach gucken,\n\nSpeaker 1: so, Du setzt 'n Pieter und resettest den Human in Worauf\n\nSpeaker 0: optimieren wir?\n\nSpeaker 2: Auf möglichst wenig in der Loops.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also erst mal finde ich, ist die Frage, ob wir darauf optimieren. Ich finde es aber erst mal nur interessant, wohin entwickelt sich so, ne?\n\nSpeaker 2: Und da ne, da denke ich so, Dennis von 'nem halben Jahr hat dir gesagt, super, das ist auf jeden Fall das Ziel und jetzt bist Du kritisch. Also das zumindest war das so mein Ein.\n\nSpeaker 0: Für euch. Oder meine. Es tut mir ein bisschen leid.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja gut. Also ich mein, ich ich mache ja 'n bisschen was anderes, ne. Ich bin der DEDNGgeber grade.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, erst mal ist das, worauf wir optimieren, gutes Feature und dann gucken wir erst mal nur, wie ob sich der Human Underloop Counter verändert.\n\nSpeaker 2: Aber die anderen werden's hassen,\n\nSpeaker 1: Natürlich, wenn ich gerade...\n\nSpeaker 0: Na wieso, es kann ja keiner hassen. Jetzt ziehen die alle am gleichen Strang.\n\nSpeaker 2: Was?\n\nSpeaker 1: Okay, ihr merkt da draußen, wir müssen wir sind viel am diskutieren so. Lass uns mal teilhaben an euren Gedanken, ob ihr das jetzt fandet, dass wir euch an unseren Gedanken diesbezüglich teilhaben lassen. Falls ja, können wir das vielleicht ein bisschen mehr einfach in den News integrieren, darüber zu sprechen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Vielleicht könnten wir auch noch, wenn wir Muße haben, noch zwischendurch mal son Einsprecher machen, so nach dem Motto, hier sind die News zu Ende, wir diskutieren jetzt noch. Nein, so nach dem Motto.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das ist alles einfach.\n\nSpeaker 2: Es sagt aber auch schon viel Spaß, wenn\n\nSpeaker 1: ihr alle sagt, wenn ihr alle sagt, also scheiß überlegen wir einfach bis lassen, aber ansonsten.\n\nSpeaker 2: Dann machen wir daraus 'n Dieb da einfach einfacher.\n\nSpeaker 0: Podcast App Programmier Punkt Bar oder über Spotify oder sonst irgendwie irgendwie irgendwo. Vielen, vielen Dank fürs Zuhören. Yes. Nächste Woche mit so einem\n\nSpeaker 1: neuen Recording Tool von Dennis. Yes.\n\nSpeaker 0: Yes. Wie ist es? Hallo Claude. Kannst Du dir das Recording fertig machen? Aber es war gar nicht Claude, dass das vielleicht vielleicht das Problem gewesen\n\nSpeaker 1: ist. Kein Wunder, dass es nicht funktioniert hat. Programmierpunkt recording heißt das recorcts.\n\nSpeaker 2: Perfekt. Wie schon irgendwie kacke.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wieder 'n Komisches Wort.\n\nSpeaker 1: Machen wir nächste Woche? Nehmen wir nächste Woche.\n\nSpeaker 0: Lass mich ganz kurz gucken, ob dieser Termin mit Jan vorher ist, weil wir haben wie gesagt, es gibt einen es gibt einen Probe- und Demotermin, danach wird der alles floorndes funktionieren.\n\nSpeaker 1: Brauchst Du irgendwie mit der mit dir testet, das muss der Jan sein oder was?\n\nSpeaker 0: Ist nächste Woche Donnerstag. Also in 2 Wochen sind wir sicher am Start mit dem neuen Tool.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das sind Teilenvans, die passen nicht mehr zur S-I-Welt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das stimmt, wenn ich programmierbar mein mein Hauptjob wäre so, dann würde ich das auch so sehen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, das stimmt. Tschau. Tschau. Tschau.",[22179,22190,22196,22203,22207,22212,22224,22233,22246,22249,22255,22259,22266,22271,22283,22296,22309,22314,22318,22329,22338,22347,22360,22370,22375,22379,22383,22389,22398,22403,22416,22423,22427,22435,22439,22444,22450,22457,22463,22467,22471,22475,22488,22492,22498,22503,22510,22517,22526,22533,22538,22543,22547,22551,22555,22559,22565,22569,22579,22586,22590,22602,22606,22615,22619,22623,22627,22631,22641,22652,22661,22671,22675,22679,22683,22687,22693,22698,22702,22706,22710,22721,22726,22730,22742,22746,22756,22763,22776,22789,22796,22809,22822,22834,22840,22850,22854,22861,22865,22869,22873,22878,22882,22886,22890,22897,22901,22909,22915,22921,22925,22929,22933,22937,22950,22954,22958,22962,22967,22977,22982,22994,23004,23008,23012,23016,23020,23024,23030,23034,23038,23043,23047,23051,23055,23059,23063,23067,23078,23090,23095,23101,23110,23114,23121,23125,23135,23142,23148,23152,23164,23174,23178,23184,23194,23198,23202,23214,23222,23228,23232,23236,23243,23251,23263,23270,23274,23278,23282,23289,23295,23299,23307,23313,23319,23323,23327,23333,23344,23348,23354,23364,23370,23382,23394,23400,23404,23410,23422,23430,23434,23446,23452,23457,23466,23469,23478,23482,23485,23491,23494,23504,23509,23520,23524,23528,23535,23538,23542,23555,23559,23571,23578,23581,23591,23603,23613,23617,23621,23628,23634,23643,23651,23655,23659,23669,23673,23685,23688,23692,23703,23708,23720,23732,23740,23746,23752,23763,23775,23779,23783,23791,23795,23799,23803,23811,23817,23823,23827,23831,23835,23841,23845,23849,23853,23859,23865,23873,23881,23885,23889,23893,23899,23902,23911,23918,23922,23926,23930,23934,23943,23948,23959,23966,23971,23975,23981,23985,23989,23995,23999,24003],{"sentences":22180,"speaker":127,"num_words":22189,"start":124,"end":285},[22181,22183,22185,22187],{"text":22182,"start":124,"end":172},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu 1 neuen programmierbaren News Folge 41 26.",{"text":22184,"start":172,"end":233},"Wir reden über Kolibri, einem neuen AI Model, über die clayd code Mods, die rausgekommen sind.",{"text":22186,"start":233,"end":270},"Firefox hat sich aufgehübscht und ein kleines Update von Apple.",{"text":22188,"start":270,"end":285},"Ich bin Dennis Becker",42,{"sentences":22191,"speaker":103,"num_words":22195,"start":288,"end":310},[22192,22193],{"text":292,"start":288,"end":289},{"text":22194,"start":295,"end":310},"Der Fabi Finckerlow und...",5,{"sentences":22197,"speaker":318,"num_words":22202,"start":315,"end":362},[22198,22200],{"text":22199,"start":315,"end":349},"Gar und Mogg, wir haben wieder an das Alphabet...",{"text":22201,"start":353,"end":362},"Wir haben's geschafft.",12,{"sentences":22204,"speaker":127,"num_words":140,"start":362,"end":398},[22205],{"text":22206,"start":362,"end":398},"Wir haben's wir haben's geschafft, uns alle Alphabet zu halten.",{"sentences":22208,"speaker":103,"num_words":22211,"start":403,"end":505},[22209],{"text":22210,"start":403,"end":505},"Ja, es war super, dass Du gesagt hast, mir zugeschaltet, das hätte ich länger überlegen müssen, wir hätten nur mal was ab und 10 wieder singen müssen.",27,{"sentences":22213,"speaker":127,"num_words":22223,"start":505,"end":702},[22214,22216,22217,22219,22221],{"text":22215,"start":505,"end":537},"Ja, ich hab das direkt mitgedacht für euch.",{"text":543,"start":537,"end":542},{"text":22218,"start":545,"end":629},"Ja, als allererstes starten wir mit 1 kleinen Bitte und zwar gibt es eine Umfrage von einem unserer, ich weiß gar nicht, wie man das nennt.",{"text":22220,"start":629,"end":674},"Man könnte jetzt entweder wenn man böses Konkurrenz Podcast sagen Okay.",{"text":22222,"start":679,"end":702},"Oder man könnte natürlich Partner sagen oder Freunde.",54,{"sentences":22225,"speaker":127,"num_words":22232,"start":707,"end":925},[22226,22228,22230],{"text":22227,"start":707,"end":845},"Anyway Engineering Kiosk, ein Techblog im deutschsprachigen Umfeld hat sich viele Gedanken gemacht zu 1 Umfrage zu deutschen Tech Podcasts und da das uns natürlich helfen würde, wenn ihr daran auch teilnehmt, direkt zu Beginn der Folge den Hinweis darauf.",{"text":22229,"start":845,"end":890},"Geht son bisschen rum, was ihr hört, was euch wichtig ist et cetera.",{"text":22231,"start":893,"end":925},"Den Link kommt in der Link kommt in unsere Shownotes.",63,{"sentences":22234,"speaker":103,"num_words":22245,"start":930,"end":1039},[22235,22237,22239,22241,22243],{"text":22236,"start":930,"end":954},"Bis wann, ich würd übrigens Freunde sagen.",{"text":22238,"start":954,"end":1000},"Ich hab ja mit Wolf für und Andi hab ja schon eine Folge aufgenommen.",{"text":22240,"start":1000,"end":1018},"Ich war ja auch schon zu Gast.",{"text":22242,"start":1018,"end":1030},"Das Engineering Podcast.",{"text":22244,"start":1034,"end":1039},"Unsere Freunde.",33,{"sentences":22247,"speaker":127,"num_words":103,"start":1039,"end":1042},[22248],{"text":1037,"start":1039,"end":1042},{"sentences":22250,"speaker":103,"num_words":22254,"start":1042,"end":1057},[22251,22252,22253],{"text":704,"start":1042,"end":1046},{"text":22244,"start":1046,"end":1053},{"text":1059,"start":1056,"end":1057},4,{"sentences":22256,"speaker":318,"num_words":318,"start":1057,"end":1064},[22257],{"text":22258,"start":1057,"end":1064},"bis wann?",{"sentences":22260,"speaker":127,"num_words":22265,"start":1064,"end":1097},[22261,22263],{"text":22262,"start":1064,"end":1083},"Muss man das zu machen?",{"text":22264,"start":1083,"end":1097},"Zum Heiligen Abend.",8,{"sentences":22267,"speaker":318,"num_words":22265,"start":1097,"end":1127},[22268,22270],{"text":22269,"start":1097,"end":1123},"Oh, okay, der ist ja noch Zeit.",{"text":1129,"start":1123,"end":1127},{"sentences":22272,"speaker":127,"num_words":22282,"start":1132,"end":1223},[22273,22275,22277,22278,22280],{"text":22274,"start":1132,"end":1144},"Läuft 'n bisschen länger.",{"text":22276,"start":1144,"end":1153},"Gut, gut.",{"text":1160,"start":1153,"end":1158},{"text":22279,"start":1162,"end":1177},"Gut, haben wir das ausm Weg?",{"text":22281,"start":1182,"end":1223},"Können wir uns direkt in den nächsten, ja das nächste AI Modell schmeißen.",26,{"sentences":22284,"speaker":103,"num_words":22295,"start":1227,"end":1472},[22285,22287,22289,22291,22293],{"text":22286,"start":1227,"end":1246},"Das damit meinst Du wohl Colibri.",{"text":22288,"start":1250,"end":1306},"Wir haben nämlich ein deutsches Modell und also erst mal interessant, von wem das Modell kommt, Alef Alpha.",{"text":22290,"start":1310,"end":1394},"Haben wir, ich hab noch mal für euch noch mal in die Historie reingeschaut, da haben wir schon das ein oder andere Mal drüber gesprochen und ich glaub, das 1.",{"text":22292,"start":1394,"end":1405},"Mal irgendwie 2023.",{"text":22294,"start":1409,"end":1472},"Und eigentlich hat Alev Alpha gesagt, dass sie komplett aus dem Modelgeschäft aussteigen und keine Modelle mehr releasen werden.",76,{"sentences":22297,"speaker":103,"num_words":22308,"start":1472,"end":1942},[22298,22300,22302,22304,22306],{"text":22299,"start":1472,"end":1498},"Die wurden ja auch von Co hier gekauft.",{"text":22301,"start":1498,"end":1554},"Ich glaub zuletzt, als sie über einen Modell gesprochen haben, war 2023, da haben sie Luminos vorgestellt.",{"text":22303,"start":1559,"end":1659},"Damals waren wir irgendwie noch 'n bisschen wohlwollend, dass immerhin mal 'n deutsches Unternehmen war, die so was rausbringt, aber auch damals war's schon so, dass das Modell jetzt nicht irgendwie neue Benchmarks geknackt hat.",{"text":22305,"start":1663,"end":1808},"Dann gab's son bisschen 2024 haben wir son bisschen über diese Series B von Alef Alpha gesprochen, so wo sie sich son bisschen größer gemacht haben, als sie eigentlich sind und dann 2024 haben sie gesagt, sie steigen aus dem KI Rennen aus so und also was heißt zum KI Rennen?",{"text":22307,"start":1812,"end":1942},"Also zumindest keine eigenen LLMs mehr und konzentrieren sich eher so auf die Plattform und sind son bisschen das das deutsche und KI Unternehmen, das ja, ich sag mal eher für Behörden und Banken und irgendwie Unternehmen mit großer Sicherheitsanforderungen irgendwie, die diejenigen sind.",155,{"sentences":22310,"speaker":103,"num_words":22313,"start":1944,"end":1978},[22311],{"text":22312,"start":1944,"end":1978},"Ja, jetzt haben sie am dritten Oktober, Tag der Deutschen Einheit,",11,{"sentences":22315,"speaker":127,"num_words":22195,"start":1982,"end":1996},[22316],{"text":22317,"start":1982,"end":1996},"ein neues Modell rausgebracht, das",{"sentences":22319,"speaker":103,"num_words":22328,"start":1996,"end":2674},[22320,22322,22324,22326],{"text":22321,"start":1996,"end":2110},"sich Colibri nennt und sie, das sich Colibri nennt und sie sagen auch, in der Modellklasse, in der sie unterwegs sind, sind sie wirklich so an der Paretolinie, also eigentlich das Beste aus Kosten und Performance.",{"text":22323,"start":2110,"end":2198},"Die Modellklasse sind eher kleine Modelle, also es ist ein dreieinhalb, also Sie kategorisieren sind, dreieinhalb Billionen Parametermodell, wobei Sie, man sagen muss, diesen Mixedurft Experts Modell.",{"text":22325,"start":2201,"end":2395},"Das heißt, Sie verbrauchen im Vergleich zu anderen relativ viel, weil Sie viele Experts haben, also 78 Billionen Parameter braucht's auf der auf der Platte, auf der GPU, weshalb es, sag ich mal, kein kleines Modell ist, was man jetzt unbedingt lokal irgendwie laufen lässt und son bisschen ihr ihr Alleinstellungsmerkmal, was sie herausstellen, ist, dass sie halt sehr fokussiert sind irgendwie auf auf Deutsch.",{"text":22327,"start":2395,"end":2674},"Also sie hatten 'n relativ aus ihrer Sicht großes deutsches Trainingsset so und wenn sie sich jetzt mit Guen 3 Punkt 5 vergleichen, dann sagen sie, sie sind irgendwie im Deutschen auch 'n paar Benchmarks irgendwie besser, obwohl man auch dazu sagen muss so, wenn man dann halt in wirklich dieser dreieinhalb Billionen Parameterklasse so, wo sie auch, wie gesagt, mehr Tup mehr Speicher verbrauchen, wenn Du schon irgendwie auf den 72 27 Billionen Parametermodell, Qan 3 Punkt 8, also eigentlich das neuere gehst, dann sind schon wieder 10 Punkte besser im Deutschen.",221,{"sentences":22330,"speaker":103,"num_words":22337,"start":2678,"end":2983},[22331,22333,22335],{"text":22332,"start":2678,"end":2776},"Und Sie sagen noch halt so Dinge wie, dass das Modell ein bisschen ehrlicher ist und in 50 50 Prozent oder knapp da drunter der Fälle wirklich sagt, wenn es etwas nicht weiß so ungefähr.",{"text":22334,"start":2780,"end":2871},"Und man merkt son bisschen, ne Zielgruppe sind auf jeden Fall auch hier wieder Behörden, Banken, Luftfahrtzulieferer so und ja, es ist schön, dass wir 'n deutsches Modell haben mal wieder.",{"text":22336,"start":2871,"end":2983},"Interessant, dass Alef Alpha da irgendwie auftaucht, aber auch wenn Sie sagen, sind da an der Pareto Linie in Ihrer Modellklasse und sich noch mit Gamer 4, A4B vergleichen, Der große Wurf ist es jetzt nicht.",102,{"sentences":22339,"speaker":318,"num_words":22346,"start":2987,"end":3250},[22340,22342,22344],{"text":22341,"start":2987,"end":3181},"Ja, aber ich finde es schon, also mit dem Background, den Sie haben, dass Sie, sag ich's, gesagt haben, in Deutschland sind Sie der AI Anbieter und dann da geht's ja auch dann dass die Daten in Europa bleiben und sie versuchen sozusagen diesen Train zu fahren, lass mal gucken, dass wir das im Deutschen irgendwie zu 'nem noch 'n bisschen besseren Modell machen, was gut läuft, was Günstiges.",{"text":22343,"start":3181,"end":3205},"Also ich finde, es passt eigentlich ganz gut.",{"text":22345,"start":3209,"end":3250},"Kann mir gut vorstellen, dass das gut ankommt auch bei den Firmen, die sie betreuen.",92,{"sentences":22348,"speaker":103,"num_words":22359,"start":3255,"end":3570},[22349,22351,22353,22355,22357],{"text":22350,"start":3255,"end":3312},"Na ja, also ich glaub, weil sie ich glaub das Modell gut verkauft bekommen und sowas glaube ich auf jeden Fall.",{"text":22352,"start":3312,"end":3402},"Also ich meine man auch, man muss mal dazu sagen, ne, zuletzt hatten wir irgendwie, ich weiß gar nicht, das letzte deutsche Modell, was wir irgendwie hatten, was da irgendwie eher so staatlich war.",{"text":22354,"start":3402,"end":3496},"Ich weiß schon gar nicht mehr, da haben wir uns ja auch über das die Aufmachung, wie das Ganze präsentiert wurde, wo man sagt, ey, es ist einfach so deutsch, wie's präsentiert wird.",{"text":22356,"start":3496,"end":3529},"Und alle Alpha, wenn man auch mal aufmacht Wie war das?",{"text":22358,"start":3529,"end":3570},"Ja, das müssten wir vielleicht noch mal, ich such vielleicht noch mal parallel irgendwie raus.",114,{"sentences":22361,"speaker":103,"num_words":22369,"start":3570,"end":3637},[22362,22364,22366,22368],{"text":22363,"start":3570,"end":3598},"Vielleicht kann ja auch Dennis grad noch mal googeln oder so.",{"text":22365,"start":3598,"end":3620},"Aber es war wie gesagt ein deutsches Modell.",{"text":22367,"start":3620,"end":3630},"Kannst Du nicht.",{"text":22367,"start":3630,"end":3637},25,{"sentences":22371,"speaker":127,"num_words":22374,"start":3637,"end":3730},[22372],{"text":22373,"start":3637,"end":3730},"Nein, nein, ich ich ich schüttel den Kopf, weil ich glaub wirklich, ich hab so, auch die Webseite noch vor mir bildlich, aber ich komm grade nicht auf den Namen.",30,{"sentences":22376,"speaker":318,"num_words":22195,"start":3730,"end":3747},[22377],{"text":22378,"start":3730,"end":3747},"Aber werd's jetzt Modell gemacht?",{"sentences":22380,"speaker":103,"num_words":22202,"start":3750,"end":3786},[22381],{"text":22382,"start":3750,"end":3786},"Das war irgend son Ego mit irgendwie, also ja, ich weiß noch,",{"sentences":22384,"speaker":318,"num_words":22195,"start":3786,"end":3804},[22385,22387],{"text":22386,"start":3786,"end":3796},"weil ich Google.",{"text":22388,"start":3796,"end":3804},"Okay, okay.",{"sentences":22390,"speaker":103,"num_words":22397,"start":3804,"end":4107},[22391,22393,22395],{"text":22392,"start":3804,"end":4060},"Wir schauen mal parallel nach, aber wenn man wenn man jetzt sozusagen, wenn wir's gleich mal sagen, welches Modell es war, da war die Aufmachung so na ja, ne, wenn man jetzt mal auf die Alfa Alphá Colibri Seite geht, das ist schon, das haben sie schon irgendwie ganz gut verkauft und sie sagen auch, ne, zum Beispiel es wurde komplett von unserem Team in Deutschland trainiert mit lückenloser Integrität der Lieferkette, Betriebsabläufe bleiben unabhängig, Schutz geistigen Eigentums und ist für die Arbeit im regulierten Bereich optimiert und so.",{"text":22394,"start":4060,"end":4097},"Also die werden schon Anwendungsfälle finden so und werden damit schon irgendwie Business machen.",{"text":22396,"start":4102,"end":4107},"Trotzdem hätte",105,{"sentences":22399,"speaker":318,"num_words":22402,"start":4107,"end":4139},[22400],{"text":22401,"start":4107,"end":4139},"da überhaupt dann was 1 mit Claude gebaut, ne?",9,{"sentences":22404,"speaker":103,"num_words":22415,"start":4143,"end":4355},[22405,22407,22409,22411,22413],{"text":22406,"start":4143,"end":4174},"Na ja, Sie Sie sprechen ja von der lückenlosen Integrität der Lieferkette.",{"text":22408,"start":4177,"end":4202},"Ich würde mal tippen, andere AIs gehören auch zu...",{"text":22410,"start":4202,"end":4282},"Also wenn wenn Sie's 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Pferde, wo irgendwie gleiche Sachen anders umgesetzt wurden, was eigentlich Quatsch ist, man hat sich schon ein bisschen Zeit sparen können.",50,{"sentences":22968,"speaker":318,"num_words":22232,"start":10267,"end":10433},[22969,22971,22973,22975],{"text":22970,"start":10267,"end":10333},"Ich glaub schon, dass man, ne, son relativ schlanken Überblick machen könnte über die Produkte und deren Features, weil da geht's ja meistens Features.",{"text":22972,"start":10333,"end":10356},"Also was willst Du 'n Feature einbauen?",{"text":22974,"start":10360,"end":10398},"Und dann kann zumindest auf jeden Fall Jeff sehr, sehr effizient sagen, haben wir schon oder nicht?",{"text":22976,"start":10398,"end":10433},"Und dann kannst Du ja immer noch sagen, okay, dann guck mal in die oder",{"sentences":22978,"speaker":127,"num_words":22516,"start":10436,"end":10453},[22979,22980],{"text":3599,"start":10436,"end":10437},{"text":22981,"start":10440,"end":10453},"Ja, lassen wir ein bisschen 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musste sehr an meinen Arch denken.",{"text":23221,"start":13127,"end":13160},"Der sah nämlich sehr so aus, also Tab Lice ist nach links gewandert.",{"sentences":23223,"speaker":318,"num_words":22265,"start":13164,"end":13183},[23224,23226],{"text":23225,"start":13164,"end":13173},"Chrome hat das auch.",{"text":23227,"start":13173,"end":13183},"Jetzt musst Du mir",{"sentences":23229,"speaker":103,"num_words":22542,"start":13183,"end":13192},[23230],{"text":23231,"start":13183,"end":13192},"doch Bilder angucken.",{"sentences":23233,"speaker":127,"num_words":22537,"start":13195,"end":13243},[23234],{"text":23235,"start":13195,"end":13243},"Chrome hat das auch, ja, ist das noch ob's aber ist noch als Flag oder oder als Einstellung, ne?",{"sentences":23237,"speaker":318,"num_words":22313,"start":13246,"end":13279},[23238,23240,23242],{"text":23239,"start":13246,"end":13263},"Ja, es ist relativ so versteckschip.",{"text":23241,"start":13267,"end":13276},"Ja, ja, genau, ja.",{"text":1129,"start":13278,"end":13279},{"sentences":23244,"speaker":127,"num_words":22422,"start":13282,"end":13437},[23245,23247,23249],{"text":23246,"start":13282,"end":13296},"Ja, ich weiß nicht, wie's euch geht.",{"text":23248,"start":13296,"end":13389},"Ich hab jetzt irgendwie wenig wenig Schmerzen und deswegen mein, müsste ich irgendwie meinen Browser wechseln, aber es sah jetzt erst mal wie 'n guter moderner Browser aus, superschnell, ja, ganz gute Funktionalitäten.",{"text":23250,"start":13392,"end":13437},"Also, falls ihr gerade irgendwie denkt, ach ich könnt mal wieder einen Browser wechseln, könnt ihr mal Firefox wieder wechseln.",{"sentences":23252,"speaker":318,"num_words":23262,"start":13437,"end":13570},[23253,23255,23257,23259,23260],{"text":23254,"start":13437,"end":13493},"Bist Du eigentlich, bist Du auf Arc oder hast Du zu diesem, ich glaub 7 Browser oder wie ist das?",{"text":23256,"start":13493,"end":13518},"Die, nee Moment, nee, die war ja das 2.",{"text":23258,"start":13518,"end":13529},"Von der Browser Company.",{"text":4562,"start":13532,"end":13533},{"text":23261,"start":13533,"end":13570},"Aber es gibt einen Browser, der sozusagen genau ARCES nur halt noch Updates bekommt.",48,{"sentences":23264,"speaker":318,"num_words":326,"start":13573,"end":13651},[23265,23267,23269],{"text":23266,"start":13573,"end":13634},"Also irgend eine andere Firma hat gesagt, okay, wenn ARC nicht weiterentwickelt wird, dann machen wir es uns Ach so nee, sieht er aus.",{"text":23268,"start":13637,"end":13645},"Sieht er aus.",{"text":22658,"start":13647,"end":13651},{"sentences":23271,"speaker":103,"num_words":22211,"start":13653,"end":13715},[23272],{"text":23273,"start":13653,"end":13715},"Aber ganz ehrlich sind wir nicht an dem Punkt, wenn dir wenn Du mit irgendwas unzufrieden bist bei deinem aktuellen Browser, dann bau dir einfach einen eigenen.",{"sentences":23275,"speaker":318,"num_words":22202,"start":13719,"end":13750},[23276],{"text":23277,"start":13719,"end":13750},"Boah, bei Browsern hätte ich bisschen Schiss, dass da wirklich irgendwie was.",{"sentences":23279,"speaker":103,"num_words":22265,"start":13753,"end":13773},[23280],{"text":23281,"start":13753,"end":13773},"Nee, dann Bau dir einfach einen eigenen Browser.",{"sentences":23283,"speaker":127,"num_words":22578,"start":13773,"end":13837},[23284,23286,23287],{"text":23285,"start":13773,"end":13785},"Ja, bau dir einen Browser.",{"text":4562,"start":13787,"end":13788},{"text":23288,"start":13788,"end":13837},"Hey, komm jetzt stell ich dich das an, das ist einmal, sprich einmal 5 Minuten mit dem Handy.",{"sentences":23290,"speaker":318,"num_words":22313,"start":13840,"end":13873},[23291,23293],{"text":23292,"start":13840,"end":13851},"Ich finde schon die Funktionalität.",{"text":23294,"start":13855,"end":13873},"Es ist, reicht nur, ich 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mich grad, dass wir vor halbes Jahr, dreiviertel Jahr irgendwie über einen Browser gesprochen hab, der noch mal komplett von neu aufgebaut wurde und das irgendwie son großes Ding ist, weil sich das keiner traut und das irgendwie so geil ist.",{"text":23338,"start":14305,"end":14342},"Und ich find's schon 'n bisschen schade, dass das jetzt so nicht mehr son Ding ist.",{"text":23340,"start":14342,"end":14370},"Also, dass das dann auch nicht mehr so eine große Sache ist.",{"text":23342,"start":14373,"end":14382},"Software ist keine",77,{"sentences":23345,"speaker":127,"num_words":22542,"start":14382,"end":14389},[23346],{"text":23347,"start":14382,"end":14389},"große Sache mehr.",{"sentences":23349,"speaker":103,"num_words":22509,"start":14389,"end":14404},[23350,23352],{"text":23351,"start":14389,"end":14394},"Ja, stimmt.",{"text":23353,"start":14394,"end":14404},"Aber deswegen ja 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von letzter Woche, ne, gerade Du bist ja jetzt auch User meiner meiner Kontakt App.",{"text":4562,"start":14638,"end":14639},{"text":23376,"start":14639,"end":14713},"Und das ist ja auch son Beispiel, ne, irgendwie nutzen viele bei uns nutzen Kontakt Kontakta als AI Herness Tool und die hatten die ganze Zeit keine iOS App.",{"text":23378,"start":14713,"end":14743},"Dann hab ich letzte Woche mit AI angefangen eine eigene zu bauen.",{"text":23380,"start":14747,"end":14848},"Witzigerweise letzten Samstag haben sie dann endlich ihre iOS App rausgebracht, gehört zwar zum Pro Plan, aber es ist trotzdem so, ich denke, ja, ich bau jetzt einfach meiner weiter, weil die macht was ich tun soll und",98,{"sentences":23383,"speaker":318,"num_words":23393,"start":14850,"end":14983},[23384,23386,23388,23390,23391],{"text":23385,"start":14850,"end":14873},"Eigentlich auch 'n bisschen Kontakt da selber bauen.",{"text":23387,"start":14875,"end":14925},"Vielleicht brauchst Du dann nicht mehr diese, weil Du hast ja diese Bedienungshilfe da brauchst Du, dass der entsperrt sein muss.",{"text":23389,"start":14925,"end":14942},"Das find ich 'n bisschen doof.",{"text":4562,"start":14945,"end":14946},{"text":23392,"start":14946,"end":14983},"Aber ich versteh so, dass das eine ist, aber dann lass doch Kontakt da selber bauen.",52,{"sentences":23395,"speaker":127,"num_words":22516,"start":14983,"end":15004},[23396,23398],{"text":23397,"start":14983,"end":14988},"Ja, absolut.",{"text":23399,"start":14991,"end":15004},"Als baust Du Kontakte selber",{"sentences":23401,"speaker":103,"num_words":22195,"start":15004,"end":15015},[23402],{"text":23403,"start":15004,"end":15015},"mit der iOS App zusammen.",{"sentences":23405,"speaker":318,"num_words":22265,"start":15019,"end":15040},[23406,23408],{"text":23407,"start":15019,"end":15026},"Ja, warum nicht?",{"text":23409,"start":15029,"end":15040},"Sind ja noch 5 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genug.",70,{"sentences":23467,"speaker":127,"num_words":103,"start":15597,"end":15601},[23468],{"text":4562,"start":15597,"end":15601},{"sentences":23470,"speaker":318,"num_words":23477,"start":15601,"end":15757},[23471,23473,23475],{"text":23472,"start":15601,"end":15649},"Und jetzt hab ich manchmal das Gefühl, denkst Du eher so, ach nee, komm, das geht doch nicht oder so.",{"text":23474,"start":15649,"end":15695},"Also weißt Du, dass Du sagst so, ich hab keine Zeit dafür, natürlich hast Du das, das ist ein prompt.",{"text":23476,"start":15698,"end":15757},"Also weißt Du, wo ich das Gefühl hab, manchmal so Du Du staffeln, also Du gehst eher so in die manchmal in die andere Richtung?",65,{"sentences":23479,"speaker":127,"num_words":22692,"start":15760,"end":15791},[23480],{"text":23481,"start":15760,"end":15791},"Würde ich, also müsste ich beobachten von meinem Gefühl, würde ich sagen, 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in meinem Kopf 100 Sachen, die ich gerne in dieser Art machen würde.",{"text":4562,"start":15998,"end":16002},{"text":23502,"start":16002,"end":16027},"Und diese hundertmal 5 Minuten, die habe ich dann halt",68,{"sentences":23505,"speaker":318,"num_words":22254,"start":16027,"end":16037},[23506,23508],{"text":23507,"start":16027,"end":16035},"vielleicht auch nicht.",{"text":676,"start":16035,"end":16037},{"sentences":23510,"speaker":127,"num_words":23519,"start":16037,"end":16394},[23511,23513,23514,23516,23518],{"text":23512,"start":16037,"end":16066},"Also das heißt, das ist, da muss ich's dann trotzdem irgendwie abwägen.",{"text":4562,"start":16069,"end":16070},{"text":23515,"start":16073,"end":16250},"Und das andere, wo es schon schwieriger wird, ist, ich war bis jetzt immer so komplett entspannt, was die Zukunft angeht und so ich gesagt hab, ja okay, ne, wir werden da schon irgendwie Wege finden für uns und und alle und da tut sich langsam son bisschen eine Lücke auf, die ich so 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sieht dann einfach tausendmal besser aus, weil er halt weiß, wie er das Designweiß prompen muss, ne?",198,{"sentences":23556,"speaker":318,"num_words":22402,"start":17139,"end":17159},[23557],{"text":23558,"start":17139,"end":17159},"Und das ist, glaube ich, schon der Mehrwert, den.",{"sentences":23560,"speaker":127,"num_words":23570,"start":17162,"end":17367},[23561,23563,23565,23567,23568],{"text":23562,"start":17162,"end":17178},"Ja, ich glaub, das ist die Zugänglichkeit.",{"text":23564,"start":17182,"end":17205},"Ich finde, also Du kannst wahrscheinlich viel davon Bett machen.",{"text":23566,"start":17205,"end":17308},"Also wie Du schon sagst, Lars könnte halt trotzdem sagen so, ey, ich hab keine Ahnung von Cloud, ich möchte das soundso verfügbar machen, gib mir die technischen Möglichkeiten dafür und dann würde AI ID auch eine gute Lösung bieten.",{"text":4562,"start":17312,"end":17313},{"text":23569,"start":17315,"end":17367},"Und ähnlich kannst Du wahrscheinlich auch Design machen, studier mal 10 Design Apps und gib mir das Beste, was wir dafür brauchen so.",81,{"sentences":23572,"speaker":127,"num_words":23577,"start":17367,"end":17482},[23573,23575],{"text":23574,"start":17367,"end":17378},"Es ist halt mehr Aufwand.",{"text":23576,"start":17381,"end":17482},"Ich glaube schon, dass Du zu ähnlichen Ergebnissen kommen könntest, aber natürlich ist überhaupt, also überhaupt diese Vorstellungskraft, was ist möglich, was wollen wir machen, was ist, ne, so, das ist natürlich schon was, was irgendwie wir alle irgendwo gemein haben.",46,{"sentences":23579,"speaker":318,"num_words":103,"start":17482,"end":17484},[23580],{"text":6231,"start":17482,"end":17484},{"sentences":23582,"speaker":127,"num_words":23503,"start":17488,"end":17676},[23583,23585,23586,23588,23589],{"text":23584,"start":17488,"end":17563},"Das ist, habe ich schon häufiger gebracht das Argument, wenn ich jetzt denken würde, Du gehst raus auf die Straße und gibst unsere aktuellen Tools 10 Random Menschen so.",{"text":4562,"start":17565,"end":17566},{"text":23587,"start":17566,"end":17611},"Die würden nicht so Wie ist die Erwartungshaltung, was da was da irgendwie tolles bei rauskommt.",{"text":4562,"start":17611,"end":17614},{"text":23590,"start":17614,"end":17676},"Weil wir hatten bei der programmierbar Meet-up hatten wir hatten Fabi Fabi und Grisha ja das Burger machen übernommen, so ne?",{"sentences":23592,"speaker":127,"num_words":23602,"start":17676,"end":17883},[23593,23594,23596,23598,23600],{"text":4562,"start":17676,"end":17678},{"text":23595,"start":17678,"end":17723},"Wir hatten dafür sone komplette Bestell App mit Bon Drucker und dann Abläufe von.",{"text":23597,"start":17723,"end":17747},"Auf weiteren Bildschirm, wo sie einfach gesehen haben.",{"text":23599,"start":17747,"end":17798},"Sie haben während sie, ne, diese Burger gegrillt haben, die App noch weit gecodet weitergebracht, sodass es optimiert wird, so.",{"text":23601,"start":17800,"end":17883},"Ich finde schon, dass das uns irgendwo, also das war 'n besserer Bürgerladen als 99 Prozent so der Bürgerläden, die Du draußen siehst, von den Prozessen und den Abläufen her.",73,{"sentences":23604,"speaker":127,"num_words":22640,"start":17883,"end":18000},[23605,23606,23608,23610,23611],{"text":4562,"start":17883,"end":17887},{"text":23607,"start":17887,"end":17911},"So und der draußen verändert sich ja nicht so viel.",{"text":23609,"start":17916,"end":17963},"Dönermann, der dreimal deine Bestellung falsch macht, so, der hat ja nicht den Antrieb, das irgendwie besser zu machen.",{"text":6231,"start":17963,"end":17965},{"text":23612,"start":17965,"end":18000},"Und ich glaube, das ist schon irgendwo was und ich kann's nicht ich kann's nicht definieren.",{"sentences":23614,"speaker":127,"num_words":318,"start":18003,"end":18008},[23615],{"text":23616,"start":18003,"end":18008},"Du 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gemacht.",{"sentences":23670,"speaker":103,"num_words":318,"start":18677,"end":18683},[23671,23672],{"text":6231,"start":18677,"end":18680},{"text":1059,"start":18680,"end":18683},{"sentences":23674,"speaker":318,"num_words":23684,"start":18683,"end":18904},[23675,23677,23679,23681,23682],{"text":23676,"start":18683,"end":18730},"Du merkst halt, so AI ist ja 'n statistisches Programm, was sozusagen den perfekten Mittelwert rausholt.",{"text":23678,"start":18733,"end":18789},"Und Du merkst dann so, das was dabei rauskommt, ist so, das ist gut, aber es ist auch nichts Besonderes, kein Wow Moment.",{"text":23680,"start":18789,"end":18857},"So und der entsteht dadurch, dass Du, keine Ahnung, 'n Robin da sitzen hast, der sagt so, ey, ich hab das Gefühl, diesem Produkt würde dieser Stil guttun.",{"text":6231,"start":18857,"end":18861},{"text":23683,"start":18863,"end":18904},"Und dann gibt der so 1, 2 Nudges und das kann die A ja auch 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passiert, wenn Lars und Robin was promte im Vergleich zu mir und wir haben alle, bringen alle 'n Mehrwert mit, so.",{"text":4562,"start":19164,"end":19166},{"sentences":23704,"speaker":318,"num_words":22542,"start":19168,"end":19175},[23705,23706],{"text":19170,"start":19168,"end":19169},{"text":23707,"start":19172,"end":19175},"Ja und",{"sentences":23709,"speaker":103,"num_words":23719,"start":19175,"end":19645},[23710,23712,23714,23715,23717],{"text":23711,"start":19175,"end":19419},"ich mein trotzdem ist auch die Frage, wenn Du's wenn Du's mal noch weiter in die Zukunft blickst, wird's am Ende jetzt, wenn wir nur auf Gamesindustrie mal blicken ne, wird's am Ende so sein, dass er einfach so weit ist, dass jeder Game, jeder User sich einfach sein eigenes Game promptet so und das am Ende so ist ja eher so weit, dass jeder einfach sein eigenes Game baut oder wird's am Ende so sein, dass trotzdem weiterhin eine große Menge von Leuten alle dasselbe Spiel spielen und das dann sozusagen von 1 AI Persona wie auch immer gebaut wird?",{"text":23713,"start":19419,"end":19432},"Glaub eher an das 2.",{"text":13520,"start":19432,"end":19434},{"text":23716,"start":19434,"end":19531},"Szenario und glaub ich dann, dass diese Games eigenständig von AIs entwickelt werden, die einfach nur sagen so, hey Du bist eine AI Company und finde einfach das nächste Game, was alle zusammen spielen, glaube ich jetzt grad noch nicht.",{"text":23718,"start":19531,"end":19645},"Es wird irgendwie in diesem Prozess werden Menschen integriert sein, die sich überlegen, was wollen wir bauen und was ist das nächste große Ding son bisschen, ob das dann wiederum wie wie viel Input von uns dafür notwendig ist und so, das werden wir son bisschen sehen.",194,{"sentences":23721,"speaker":318,"num_words":22833,"start":19648,"end":19961},[23722,23724,23726,23728,23730],{"text":23723,"start":19648,"end":19743},"Ich glaub, also ich glaube absolut nicht daran, dass wir in eine Welt kommen, wo Leute ihre Spiele selber bauen, weil es ist ja für uns Experten schon schwer, 'n Spiel zu bauen, was Spaß macht.",{"text":23725,"start":19743,"end":19832},"Es ist fucking schwer und ich glaube, dieses Szenario wär dann so, ja, dann baut sich halt über 'n Spiel, spielt es 2 Minuten und denkt so, hä, was ist das denn für 'n Crab?",{"text":23727,"start":19835,"end":19871},"So, das, ich glaube, das wird nie passieren, weil es einfach schwer ist, Spiele zu bauen.",{"text":23729,"start":19873,"end":19944},"Und ich glaube aber schon, dass es eine Welt geben kann, wo Du eine AI irgendwann die Idee gibst, also weißt Du, wo ich promptte, was die Funktion sein sollen.",{"text":23731,"start":19948,"end":19961},"Robin promptet, wie's aussehen soll.",{"sentences":23733,"speaker":318,"num_words":22762,"start":19964,"end":20051},[23734,23736,23738],{"text":23735,"start":19964,"end":19985},"Lars sagt vielleicht noch son bisschen was für Events oder so.",{"text":23737,"start":19987,"end":20038},"Dann kommt doch eine Kathi und sagt, hier, UA und dann lässt Du's arbeiten 2 Tage und dann ist fertig.",{"text":23739,"start":20038,"end":20051},"Das könnte ich mir schon vorstellen.",{"sentences":23741,"speaker":103,"num_words":140,"start":20051,"end":20075},[23742,23744],{"text":23743,"start":20051,"end":20057},"Ja, natürlich.",{"text":23745,"start":20057,"end":20075},"Sind wir auch nicht so weit von entfernt.",{"sentences":23747,"speaker":318,"num_words":22369,"start":20078,"end":20139},[23748,23750],{"text":23749,"start":20078,"end":20095},"Nee, sind wir nicht so weit von entfernt.",{"text":23751,"start":20095,"end":20139},"Momentan ist das son bisschen mehr iterativ, aber so insgesamt könnte das dann schon sehr automatisch passieren.",{"sentences":23753,"speaker":127,"num_words":23141,"start":20142,"end":20248},[23754,23755,23757,23759,23761],{"text":4562,"start":20142,"end":20143},{"text":23756,"start":20146,"end":20156},"Ja, bin ich auch dabei.",{"text":23758,"start":20156,"end":20185},"Also der 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